tinwhiskers,
tinwhiskers avatar

It feels like a lot of people new to the fediverse think it revolves around lemmy. It always feels a bit divisive to come across posts like this that single out lemmy. It would be nice if people asked about the fediverse or threadiverse or something. Don't forget that us kbin users (among others) are browsing the same threads and partaking in the same discussions.

KarsicKarl,
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I thought everything revolved around Mastodon.

Waiting for the day when YouTube annoy lots of users and the same discussion happens about Peertube.

Eavolution,
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I dont think that day will ever come. Hosting text is one thing, hosting 4k video is something else entirely. Kbin and lemmy have both had server problems and neither host lots of video like YouTube does. Its questionable weather YouTube is even profitable.

Kichae,

It will be different, for sure, but big YouTube personalities who make most of their money from brand deals already could actually see themselves come out ahead in the fictitious world where everyone leaves Twitter and Reddit for the Fediverse.

Hosting videos is expensive, but the big names make more money for YouTube than covers said names' usage costs, and if people ever had reason to realize that they can follow PeerTube from Lemmy/kbin/Mastodon/Calckey/etc., then Bob's your uncle.

Of course, we don't live in that world. But it's a nice thought.

vyvanse,
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Plus advertising revenue would be gone

zorrothefox2001,
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To be fair, I thought kbin was simply a Lemmy frontend at first

ChemicalRascal,
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Ultimately, they're both ActivityPub clients. Kinda. Maybe client is the wrong term.

variouslegumes,

I didn't know there were other reddit like federated apps out there, my bad.

soundasleep,
soundasleep avatar

The tech is incredible, posts are shared seamlessly and replies are almost instant! The threadiverse is going to have so many cool apps in the future.

AidsAcrossAmerica,
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I still don't understand if I'm on Kbin or Lemmy. I have a Kbin login so this is Kbin right? But I can view subs/magazines/federations on lemmy? But not all of the content? And I can comment/interact with those Lemmyubs/magazines/federations if i'm on Kbin, but not with the same account if I go to Lemmy? WTF is going on.

spaceace,

Same. I think I only have the kbin and am not sure if I have the lemmy. I keep seeing posts like this talking about it so I must be. Fuck am I old?

Badabinski,

Nah, this shit is confusing initially. Think of it like email. You're using gmail, but you can still see and participate in email threads sent by Outlook users. It's just that instead of emails, it's a threaded forum somewhat in the style of reddit.

Catch42,
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In case the email analogy doesn't work for you, let me let me try to explain. You're on kbin, you can tell because your username ends in @kbin.social, which is a kbin instance. Instance is just another name for a server. Due to federation you can view and comment on threads from any other federated instance. You can also join maganzines (called communities on Lemmy, groups on mastadon, and subreddits on reddit) from any other federated instance as well. The only thing I don't think you can do is become a moderator on another instance. Note, the content is being brought to your kbin feed because we are federated, if you go to to the original instance you've left the website and thus won't be logged in. There's nothing to stop you from making another account with a Lemmy instance, but there's not really any reason to because you can see the same content.

Zamboniman,
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and am not sure if I have the lemmy.

You don't. You are logged in to a kbin account but, just like if you were logged in to a lemmy account, you can read and post to the same threads and comments. Just like if you were logged in to your gmail account you can send an email to somebody with a hotmail account or another gmail account. Doesn't matter.

VeeSilverball,
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In kbin's UI, on every thread you can click "more", then "copy url" to see what the origin of the thread is - if it shows another domain name like lemmy.ml then you know you are looking at a thread that originated on a different "fediverse instance". Likewise you can also look at the URL of a username to see where they are posting from.

Lemmy presents things a little bit differently from kbin, and when things are federated to different instances there's no guarantee we see exactly the same things as each other(voting stats, replies etc.) What we do get is roughly enough to have a discussion, though.

Eavolution,
Eavolution avatar

The way it should work is everything can interact with everything unless its defederated.

GoodKingElliot,
GoodKingElliot avatar

I had a similar question, which I asked here.

Someone answered that Kbin, Lemmy, and Mastodon all "speak" the same protocol called ActivityPub.

Xathonn,
Xathonn avatar

Your account is on Kbin. Kbin is federated with Lemmy instances, so you can interact with posts on lemmy instances and communities.

Catch42,
Catch42 avatar

you're on kbin, you can tell because your username ends in @kbin.social, which is a kbin instance. Instance is just another name for a server. Due to federation you can view and comment on threads from any other federated instance. You can also join maganzines (called communities on Lemmy, groups on mastadon, and subreddits on reddit) from any other federated instance as well. The only thing I don't think you can do is become a moderator on another instance. Note, the content is being brought to your kbin feed because we are federated, if you go to to the original instance you've left the website and thus won't be logged in.

CoderKat,
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While you're on kbin, the servers share basically everything under the hood, so the distinction isn't that strong. Compared to Lemmy, you'd see a different interface and some features may differ, but the underlying content is basically the same whether you're on kbin or Lemmy. So despite being different products, it's basically one big community. The likes of Mastodon are technically in there too, but the threading structure of kbin and Lemmy means you'll mostly see those two products sharing content.

Though note that the specific site you're on does control things like the sorting of posts. What's hot for a kbin user might not be for a Lemmy user. Similarly, sites could hide or block some kinds of content if they want to. Eg, I think kbin probably did something to filter porn off the front page, cause I don't see porn anymore unless I look for it. Beehaw is another good example here. It's a Lemmy instance that decided to block the biggest other Lemmy servers to limit access to their communities.

TL;DR: same content, different interface for viewing and interacting with the content.

antibios,

From discussion on the unixporn subreddit about moving the sub

Crabhands,
@Crabhands@lemmy.ml avatar

I ddg'd reddit alternatives, which led me to an informative post on reddit that brought me to https://join-lemmy.org/

francisco1844,

From comment on Reddit

vendion,
@vendion@lemmy.ml avatar

I found out about Lemmy about 3 years ago in a random Reddit thread, and been mostly lurking since then.

ransomwarelettuce,

Found out about Lemmy a while ago the through an app that existed for it (Lemmur) due to weird search of Fdroid, when the shit hit the fan I just followed the crowd.

cassetti,

Literally on Reddit. One of the post on one of the groups someone asked "where is everyone going now?" And the two top replies I saw were for Kbin Social and Squabbles, so that's where I went lol

bdvenom,

After I saw the AMA with spez, I didn't have any hope for reddit being useable anymore. So I googled for something else to do my doom scrolling. I ran across a 4 year old YouTube video explaining the fediverse. Then I googled fediverse reddit alternative, and here I am. I wish I would have found out about all of this a long time ago.

bunkyprewster,

On Mastodon!

ppp,

I found out about it years ago (before the pandemic) at r/privacytoolsio or r/privacy or something.

Lurra,
@Lurra@lemm.ee avatar

Reddit. Someone mentioned Lemmy in r/apolloapp. Some were upset knowing the news that Apollo would be shutting down by the end of the month so folks started mentioning alternatives. I welcome the change ☺️.

ada,
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I joined the fediverse just over a year ago when Musk first made moves at Twitter, and was pretty quickly co-admin of a Calckey instance. I used reddit more than I use twitter though, so I went looking for federated reddit alternatives and found lemmy.

We spun up a lemmy instance around 6 months ago. I've been here ever since

Binzy_Boi,

Found it about a year ago after looking for social media alternatives that respect privacy and are open-source. Mainly lurked for a while, but then decided to try and get some communities active here. about two or three weeks back.

Just happened to be a coincidence everything going on with Reddit started occurring shortly after.

greensky,

I found out about on hacker news

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