Are you not annoyed by Lemmy's constant glitches?

On the instance I’m using, my comments and posts have disappeared. It is ok?

I had a few helpful comments here that I saved, but it’s all gone.

Having got used to the stability in Mastodon I was surprised by such things in Lemmy as:

Unable to log into your account through the app after an update on the server.

Unable to log into your account through the app if your instance version is out of date.

Just because you’ve created a post or written a comment doesn’t mean other Lemmy users will see it.

I have to constantly check to see if my messages are visible on other instances.

You also need to have many sub-accounts on different instances in case some of the primary instances are unavailable.

PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S,
@PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I have wildly more patience for Lemmy’s glitches than I do for Reddit’s. Lemmy’s devs are working on a shoestring budget with just a few people trying to prop up a whole social network. The project is still pretty early in its life cycle.

Lmaydev,

A lot of the mentioned issues are caused by instances having different versions.

This could be fixed with API versioning. As in you support the last couple versions of the API rather than only the new one.

ChaosAD,

Yeah but take into account nobody was expecting reddit enshitificate so fast.

Before we get the massive exodus things were smooth.

Lmaydev,

Yeah I’m sure it revealed a lot of scaling issues and other bugs.

It’s often considered bad practise to prematurely optimize software. But when working at scale little things can start to really bite.

pixelscript,

I believe this most recent update to v0.19 was somewhat unique in the regard of login incompatibility across versions, as major breaking changes to authentication itself were the focus of it.

Sticker,

Since your reply to the post for xarexyouxmadx is not visible from this instance, I will reply here.

We at SDF had some outgoing federation issues recently, and we weren’t the only ones.

Has this problem gone unresolved for a long time?
Right now, a similar issue with the instance lemmy.today

Also, my original instance (vlemmy) literally deleted itself in July.

The first instance I was registered on doesn’t exist anymore either. It was celeb.pizza

magnetosphere,
magnetosphere avatar

Exactly. Those people are paid salaries. They have teams working on things. When something is allowed to go wrong, someone either didn’t do the job they’re paid for, or they’re incompetent/apathetic. They’re using proven software that’s been around a while.

When there’s a problem with a Lemmy instance, then maybe the one person responsible was at the job that actually pays their rent. They’re working with beta software that’s full of “surprises”.

atlasraven31, (edited )

Liftoff stopped working for me two weeks ago. I had to download a new app to use Lemmy again. Still better than reddit.

Sticker,

I too have noticed that this app has stopped working. The developers haven’t released an update for a long time.

figjam,

No. My experience has ben once things become stable and slick is when the enshittining begins.

MonsieurArchi,

Not really. I’m loving lemmy more than reddit. Reddit just feels so toxic with their algo frontpage.

spittingimage,
@spittingimage@lemmy.world avatar

Not really.

If it was commercial software, I’d assume that some dick project manager forced a premature release. Fuck that guy.

Since it isn’t, I just assume it’s really hard to get everything right first try without a big QA team.

xilliah, (edited )

Ya sometimes my posts magically are deleted or hidden or pictures don’t upload. But still a great experience for me due to the wholesomeness.

And it’s awesome that you can use pictures in comments.

https://beehaw.org/pictrs/image/6e2d09b4-788e-4835-a5b4-0b75e835e7b2.webp

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

tbf reddit also allows that with markdown

xilliah,

It does? I was on there since digg and never seen that.

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

people don’t use it for some reason ¯_(ツ)_/¯
all third party clients display markdown images fully inline, all official clients either require a click or show a small thumbnail

Sticker,

Was reading comments through the RaccoonForLemmy app and your comment looked like this:
Screenshot

After a while, the app froze and closed by itself. However, after I reopened the app everything looked normal.

xilliah,

Wut

DieguiTux8623,

That’s a known bug which has been partially solved in the latest development build, have a look here. There were issues with markdown rendering when there were both text and images.

RovingFox,
@RovingFox@infosec.pub avatar

Not really, the benefits outweigh the consequences.

planish,

I took one passing look at how the thing is built, found out it’s “basically all websockets for some reason”, and stopped expecting it to work properly. Whenever it breaks I think “this is why you don’t use websockets when you can just send a goddamn server side rendered web page or make an AJAX POST request” and I feel vindicated instead of annoyed.

tgxn,
@tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net avatar

They phased out websockets a while back.

planish,

Maybe that’s when I mostly stopped getting the wrong page of stuff.

Pratai,

I’ve not seen a single one of those glitches since I’ve been an active user.

Mr_Blott,

Neither have I. Been using Sync and it’s pretty flawless

Pratai,

Voyager here.

DougHolland,
@DougHolland@lemmy.world avatar

I am not annoyed by Lemmy’s constant glitches. It adds to the charm of the place.

Lemmy is a volunteer effort. You want everything to run corporate-smooth, that’s ‘X’ and TikTok and Reddit.

Clbull,

I mean Lemmy World was at one point really unstable but this was due to an influx of Reddit refugees, malicious DDOS attacks and at one point malicious actors flooding the instance with CSAM - a reason why the Lemmy Shitpost community temporarily shut its doors.

I’ve not noticed glitching recently. Reddit’s official app is the unstable crock of shit if anything.

gregorum, (edited )

a little, but I’m dealing with it. 18 or so years ago, when reddit was new, it had a lot of bugs, was unstable, and would often go down for upgrades and maintenance.

although lemmy has been around for a few years, it hasn’t really been run or even tested as a serious platform until last summer when tens of thousands of new users flocked to it suddenly from reddit and both a bunch of new instances popped up and a bunch of new and rapid software releases brought a bunch of new features to handle the sudden growth. some growing pains are to be expected and, frankly, it’s all gone far more smoothly than I expected it would.

phillaholic,

18 Years ago I was more patient with things like that. Today my patience is only for shit that matters.

gregorum, (edited )

aaaaand why don’t you think that taking the time to work out the bugs on this platform doesn’t matter?

you do realize that this - all of this here that we’re participating in - is part of a big experiment run purely on volunteer work by a community-driven effort, and is entirely funded thereby. there’s no corporate effort at play here and no megabucks to bankroll it. that’s kinda the point of it all. so, if you’re dissatisfied with that state of things or by what you perceive as a lack of progress, I suggest you roll up your sleeves and dig in, contribute your time and effort to the development, or find some other way to contribute to the project and/or community in furtherance of its goals.

whining here about those things will get you precisely nowhere— especially when you either imply or outright declare that any of this doesn’t matter— or the idea that you’re entitled to something for nothing.

phillaholic,

My family matters. My work matters. My pleasure activities matter. Whether or not some rando on the Internet is able to read my comment really doesn’t matter.

gregorum,

nobody here doubts that you’re selfish and self-centered with no care for anyone but yourself.

Whether or not some rando on the Internet is able to read my comment really doesn’t matter.

then why are you here trying so hard?

phillaholic,

You’re calling me selfish for caring about my family, work, and real life things instead of the Internet? That’s just sad man.

gregorum,

What’s sad is that you have to twist my words to excuse your behavior.

And if you really didn’t care, you wouldn’t have been spending the last couple of days trying so hard to convince me.

phillaholic,

I’ve said very little, you seem like the one trying to convince yourself. 🤷‍♂️

gregorum,

”no u!”

an argument right out of kindergarten.

again, if you don’t care, why have you spent 2 days trying so hard to convince me?

phillaholic,

🤷‍♂️

weeeeum,

On Lemmyworld and using boost for Lemmy, absolutely no bugs honestly. It’s more stable than boost for reddit and that was head and shoulders above reddit’s own cesspool of a mobile app.

The closest thing to a “bug” is poor optimization on posts with a bunch of hi res photos but that’s it.

magnetosphere,
magnetosphere avatar

No. This is incredibly complex software run by people with little or no budget. I’m grateful that it exists at all.

some_guy,

Just because you’ve created a post or written a comment doesn’t mean other Lemmy users will see it.

I’m more annoyed that my instance presently reports a higher number of comments than what gets displayed (since moving to 19.0, I think). Sometimes, I can workaround that by changing the view, but often not. I wanna read what others have to contribute more than I care if they see what I say, but I was a lurker on the old site and I’ve never been on the mainstream socials.

vox,
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tbf reddit also has this issue

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