atimehoodie, The Good Place, season 2.
mindbleach, The Sixth Day, one of Arnold Schwarzenegger’s please-take-me-seriously projects, is possibly the wrongest it is possible to be about whether clones are people. Still a fun movie. Just ass-backwards in its motivation. I’m not sure how much of its moral grey area was intended by the script or the direction. The anti-clone “good guys” are pretty terrorist-coded. Arnie’s just caught up in the middle of their guerrilla fight against a generic corporate bad guy. Who solved death. How terrible.
Off-topic Schwarzenegger faff: End Of Days is dumb. Jingle All The Way is the most 90s Christmas movie possible. Eraser is a slick action movie that somehow has no cultural cachet outside of every video game with a railgun.
schnurrito, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban comes to mind.
baritone_edge, deleted_by_author
hactar42, I would say that Lex Luthor is more of a villain who sees himself as the good guy. He thinks he is humanity’s savior from what he perceives as an alien threat. Whether he is evil or not depends on the actions of Superman.
Gabu, (edited ) In a sense, Bleach - twice!
spoilerSousuke Aizen used deplorable methods in his attempt to achieve godhood and conquer the “empty throne of god”, but was ultimately justified when the forces of Yhwach, the legitimate son of God decided to invade and lay waste to the Soul Society. Subverted yet again when it is revealed that the current “Soul King” (the lynchpin that hold reality together and the pretend-ruler of the world) is in fact an empty husk of the original God, who was assassinated by the Shinigami because they feared his powers, and Yhwach’s bloody conquest was in fact an attempt at revenge. Some of his final words before dying are “I will create a world without the fear of death”.
NigelFrobisher, God Emperor Of Dune. Leto II needs his bath time.
sibloure, Satan of the Bible, similar character to Prometheus enotes.com/…/why-satan-considered-hero-paradise-l…
solarvector, Proponent of knowledge and education. Isn’t big on forced worship. Doesn’t murder you for not paying enough attention. Guess it’s all just a trick to capture your eternal soul.
QuestioningEspecialy, ...so the (racist af) Tsukimichi series/manga/webnovel has this Demon race, right? Whole isekai happens because they instigate a war against the h(y)umans outta nowhere and the Goddess needs a hero.
::: spoiler spoiler
Well~ turns out these mofos had it comin'... and so does the Goddess. 🤷🏿♂️
:::it only sorta works for this post since the main character is quite indifferent to the
conflictwar for quite awhile
interestingly, the story primes you up for that reveal with a precursor villain of sorts::: spoiler spoiler
Lime and his cohort are quite villainous until you learn what brought that fate upon the Rembrandt family 😐
:::
FreakinSteve, Sophia, Garden of Eden, Genesis
tjhart85, (edited ) Interview With a Vampire ... kind of ... Lestat was by no means good to Louis, but their portrayals in the rest of the series was quite different ... I think that Anne Rice was trying to show that neither of them should be considered reliable narrators and Louis will always try to portray his situation as awfully as possible and Lestat is a narcissist and will always try to portray himself in the best light even when acknowledging what he did incorrectly.
But, when I saw that book 2 was about Lestat, I was like ... wtf ... I hate this guy, why would I want a story with him as the main character and then I read them all, lol.
Dhrystone, Adrian Veidt, Watchmen.
zaphod, Absolutely not, unless you adhere to pure utilitarianism. Veidt kills untold numbers of innocent people on a self-imposes quest to do what he believes will save humanity. He was a straight up megalomaniac and the only upside is that his murderous actions eventually lead to peace.
Dhrystone, But he made himself feel every death, and he saved the entire world from (holds lighter under map)…
arthur, Self imposed pain do not give back nor compensate for the lifes he took.
FreakinSteve, Questionable. Depending on your attitude towards the follow-up Doomsday Clock, he is really just a megalomaniac who believes he’s the good guy
sxan, The French version of La Femme Nikita, although it’s more of a redemption arc than “villain turning out to be a good guy.” She starts out as a junkie petty crook who murders a cop in cold blood, spends most of the film assassinating people for the government, and in the end seems to have gotten her life together.
But she starts out as a very not-nice person.
Seasoned_Greetings, Does Dr Doom count for this? He believes he’s seen humanity perish in every reality except the one where he becomes the absolute ruler.
FlaminGoku, Yeah and he gets unlimited power from the sabertooth looking god or whatever.
QuestioningEspecialy, wait, what?
BolexForSoup, Braid
QuestioningEspecialy, still ain't finished it after all these years 'cause of how hard some levels are (and i don't wanna use a video every damn time)
BolexForSoup, If it’s the purple/shadow puzzle world just look them up. Those get wonky and the game has so few it’s not like you’ll be watching a hundred YouTube videos
QuestioningEspecialy, never made it that far
keet, I kinda think this about the Separatists in Star Wars...Dooku aside...
JowlesMcGee, I'll never stop complaining that in the second movie Dooku tells Obi-Wan that the Separatists are the good guys and that there's a sith influencing the Senate. Which would have been a cool reveal for the audience, that we're rooting for the bad guys.
But then Dooku is also a sith anyway. What a wasted opportunity.
QuestioningEspecialy, something something "From my perspective the Jedi are evil."
something something "You were supposed to bring balance to the force, not destroy it."
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