wuphysics87,

Sending someone upstate means sending them to prison

doggle,

It refers to the northern part of whatever state the speaker happens to be in. It’s mostly used by New Yorkers to refer to the more rural part of New York State which is North of New York City.

Downstate is a thing, I guess, but neither upstate nor downstate are used much outside of New York in my experience.

Donebrach,
@Donebrach@lemmy.world avatar

this really only applies to New York, as New York City is in the bottom little bit of the state’s southern nubbin and the rest of the state is commonly called “Upstate New York” since when people outside the northeast refer to New York, they’re talking about New York City, rather than the state of New York. thus Upstate New York was shortened to Upstate. (it seems to hold that most people i know who grew up in the northeast call New York City “NYC” rather than what i used growing up which was “New York.”

I am an american, I grew up in a state in the south west, no one ever used the term “going upstate” for anything because there was so such place to go.

I guarantee you only see dialog such as this in media set in NYC.

RizzRustbolt,

It refers to a rural area of the state. Usually with a higher income bracket.

amio,

As a foreigner: "Upstate" means "the part of New York [state] that is not the city and about which nobody gives a shit."

My only point of reference is it's where Skinner and Chalmers appear to be from in the Simpsons and it seems, well, highly generically NE US.

hperrin,

I live in Southern California and we don’t really use that phrase around here. I think it’s almost entirely used to refer to basically any area of New York north of NYC.

TheFriar,

Yeah, I’ve lived in quite a few different states, but only in NYC do I hear and use “upstate.”

Meltrax,

I’d bet a dollar OP just watched the Friends Porsche episode.

csm10495,
@csm10495@sh.itjust.works avatar

A place where people use the phrase steamed hams.

Wahots,
@Wahots@pawb.social avatar

Really? I’m from Utica, and I’ve never heard such a phrase.

csm10495,
@csm10495@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oh no it’s an Albany expression

MeepsTheBard,
@MeepsTheBard@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It’s common in states that have a lower population center, geographically. I’m in Minnesota, and our Twin Cities are in the southern third of the state.

“Going up north (to the cabin)” is our spin on “upstate”, because (for most people) there isn’t much of a reason to go much more north than we already do.

Roldyclark,

Def depends where you’re at. In Virginia we call upstate Nova (northern VA). In NJ it’s North Jersey (I’m originally from South Jersey) PA is more east west oriented since Philly and Pittsburgh are east and west ends of the state.

TheOakTree,

I find Jersey quite silly because there’s a distinct North and South Jersey, but then people in the middle still have some ambiguous Central Jersey pride to them

Roldyclark,

Lol yeah to me central NJ is just Trenton

TotalFat,

It works just like updog

okamiueru,

What does that mean?

lesnout27,

ligma balls gottem lmao

HobbitFoot,

Since a lot of people have upstate, there are some places that have a downstate in the southern part of the state, the best examples I can think of being Illinois and Maine.

It just happens to be that you’ve heard upstate more because New York City is a lot more depicted in American media.

Gorgritch_umie_killa,
@Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone avatar

Thats what Frodo said to Gaffer when he asked where he was going, “oh, just upshire.”

He didn’t trick old Proudfeet though, he knew Frodo was weavin porkies.

shinigamiookamiryuu,

It means the Northern part of the state, typically when the state has a North-South cultural divide. It’s not exclusive to the US though, I’ve seen it used in places like Sao Paulo and Lagos before. Anywhere where one locality serves as a drain on the rest will get people to refer to different halves of the place, I guess nobody learned from Athens and Sparta.

Waraugh,

Similarly the small town I grew up in had “the other side of the tracks”

meanmon13,

Upstate is used in South Carolina as well, used to refer to the western and more mountainous part of the state. The eastern non-mountainous part of the state is called low-country.

milkisklim,

With the Midlands to mean everything from Rock Hill through Columbia and to Aiken!

dutchkimble,

I’m probably wrong, but I think it means somewhere north of the capital city, and maybe it’s only used in New York

Ultraviolet,

Upstate in NY is literally the entire state other than NYC and Long Island.

Cube6392,

Only New York. It means all the parts of New York state that aren’t New York City

TonyTonyChopper,
@TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

Long Island is excluded too

tastysnacks,

Is Long Island named Long Island because its long?

tocopherol,
@tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It appears so, it was called other things by native people but the Dutch seem to be the first to call it Long Island in the 1600s. Many geographic features in the area have similar sort of names, like Short Hill, East River, West River, Indian Hill, Short Beach, Beaver Swamp, the colonists really weren’t very clever with their naming.

TonyTonyChopper,
@TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

yes. 100 miles or so

Corkyskog,

You are very wrong. Albany is part of “upstate NY” and Albany is literally the capital city… In NY it means basically anywhere that isn’t NYC.

dutchkimble,

Oh well, I tried. Thanks for clarifying!

_edge,

Ok, so upstate means north of the capital or north NYC if in New York?

tocopherol,
@tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

In NY state it essentially means anywhere north of NYC, the capital city Albany is upstate NY. It doesn’t seem to mean north of the capital in any state unless that capital is at the southern part.

Zitronensaft,

The term upstate has no relation to the capital city, that was a mistaken assertion. It isn’t used very widely at all, it’s just a local term in a couple of states for their northern portions. Most states don’t have an area that is referred to as upstate.

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