phoenixz,

TO;DR:

Luxury items and brands that we don’t really need seem to get better after being bought out. The rest is fucked.

aluminium,

Bethesda buying Id Software.

figaro,

Motorola, while it was owned by Google, was actually quite good. The Moto g and the Moto x line were started in that era. The original Moto x was one of the best looking phones I’ve ever used.

realharo,

Oculus. No way they would have otherwise had the money to make cheap standalone VR headsets like the Quest.

elshandra,

No way would they have forced you to sign up to/in to meta either though.

realharo,

Everything that has a store requires an account.

  • Steam - you need Steam account (also applies to Valve Index then)
  • iPhone - you need Apple account
  • Android phones - you need Google account
  • Oculus before - you needed an Oculus account

The short time during which they required a Facebook account (i.e. an account linked to an unrelated service) was a fuck-up, but they have since reversed that decision. Now it’s just a separate standalone VR-related account.

If anything, that is still better than the current Google/Apple situation with their accounts, which link together a bunch of unrelated services (photos, email, payments, storage sync, etc.) in an inseparable way.

averyfalken,

I still refuse anh thing that requires a fb account I will pay more for a vr headset to not fucking deal with that

kaboom36,

You don’t actually need an account to use an android phone with Aurora and fdroid And the index is just a headset, you don’t need steam to use it, valve doesn’t do walled gardens AFAIK

pyr0ball, (edited )

Sorry to break it to you bruh, but if Facebook owns the IP, they’re harvesting and monetizing the account data, end of.

This includes all of the subsidiaries like Instagram and WhatsApp as well.

Let’s also not forget that illegal activity exposes user data in addition to greed, and just the fact that your data is in yet another pot increases your risk. Also yes all corporations are greedy and evil but they’re definitely not all equal in how bad they are, and FB is one of the worst

Are you willing to compromise on all of these intrusions into your life? Many people are, but I’m not one.

realharo, (edited )

Ok, so Facebook knows I have a VR headset and bought some games, and they’re using that information in targeted advertising (as much as things like EU law allows them where I live)? Quite frankly, I don’t care - this doesn’t really affect me in any practical sense - and again, thanks to existing laws, I can actually opt out from a large part of it.

From a practical standpoint, I would have a much bigger problem with a situation that exists with Google, where some people had access to their email and other services disabled, because some stupid bot classified their comments in YouTube livestream as spam with basically no recourse until the story blew up in tech news (gamerant.com/markiplier-stream-ban-lock-users-out…). The root of the issue there is that those accounts just shouldn’t be linked, and what you do on YouTube shouldn’t affect your access to your own email etc.

You may argue that this is simply down to the fact that Facebook doesn’t have a strong enough market position to get away with such practices, and that they would do it too if they could, but as it stand today, the giants like Google or Apple are far worse. (And with most of these problems, as well as other monopolistic practices of tech giants, regulation can be a large part of the solution.)

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

BANANA!

Without the many republics and massive damage done we would not have the cheap bananas we all rely on for potassium and low level radiation.

kewjo,

i really hope you can clarify, are you saying genocide is justifiable to have cheap bananas?

bobby_hill,

I think it’s sarcasm, mate, but I could be wrong

DragonTypeWyvern,

I think he thinks “BANANA” is a company.

Archer,

I do enjoy a BANANA brand banana

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

It is a dig on all banana companies as I don’t know any that operate today with clean hands.

If someone can name a non villain banana producer I would like that.

Misconduct,

Miami Fruit is expensive but they haven’t committed any crimes against humanity that I’m aware of. They had lots of varieties last time I ordered but it’s been a while.

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Miami Fruit

Neat, did not think I would be reading about something good in Florida today. Thanks!

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I feel my hate for bananas is justified by such behavior.

jacktherippah,

Minecraft would’ve died under Notch.

dingleberry,

Avoided turning into Meincraft.

dotMonkey,

Minecraft, not Mein Kampf!

Agent641,

Why explore new chunks? Why raze entire villages? Lebensraum

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

Man Notch really turned out to me a mess didn’t he…? 😥

I remember back in like 2012 he was one of my personal “heros”.

frozencat,

what did he do I don’t know

Donkter,

He got sucked into Right-wing extremism. Posting racist, sexist, homophobic and transphobic things on Twitter. Also got into Qanon I think.

frozencat,

oh damn :(

Jakeroxs,
intensely_human,

What are some of the things he said that were classified as that?

Donkter,

Someone below me posted a big video on that. Other than that it takes two seconds to Google. He has a history of saying extremely reactionary things (advocating for a straight pride parade, saying feminism is a disease, being transgender is just a mental illness etc.) And then walking it back which is weird that it happens over and over again. He also unironically believed in Qanon.

Maybe not an outright fascist bigot but however his social system and brain works, it leads him to fall face first over and over into extreme right wing reactionary takes.

intensely_human,

An answer to this question which indicates it’s not a lie would be something like

Donkter,

My answer.

intensely_human,

Sorry I’m not willing to put in effort to prove someone else’s claim.

I’ve tried in the past and googling in circumstances like this leads to nothing.

trashgirlfriend,

You can either be lazy enough to accept things at face value or take the time to verify people’s claims, you can’t really have both.

Donkter, (edited )

You’re right, your ignorance is a choice.

Fruitball,

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markus_Persson#Controversy

TL;DR: Racism, sexism, homophobia, and transphobia over Twitter

Noodle07,

Same with wurm online

douglasg14b,
@douglasg14b@lemmy.world avatar

What what.

I thought Wurm online is essentially still dead 🤔

parsiuk,

No, not dead. Works for me.

Noodle07,

Still going strong 🤷

EvolvedTurtle,

I agree But for a while he didn’t even do anything It was just jeb

And I think it could of worked out But even with all of the dumb stuff Microsoft brought I can’t say it was a bad thing

irotsoma,
@irotsoma@lemmy.world avatar

I just saw a Jaguar that actually looked pretty nice. I hadn’t seen a decent Jaguar since Ford bought them out. So I guess Tata did something right in allowing some style back rather than them just looking like a Ford. But I can’t vouch for the rest of the car, just that it looked nice, which is something the original Jaguars always had going for them. That unique style.

Barack_Embalmer,

You don’t like the XJS?

irotsoma,
@irotsoma@lemmy.world avatar

The original is one of my all time favorite car styles. The post-Ford version just looked like a Ford with a mutated Jag frontend stuck on it. The rear shape and lights especially made it literally feel like a Ford sedan ran up the ass of an XJS and the face of the Jag is making an oh shit face. You couldn’t tell it was a Jag at all from the rear or sides.

Barack_Embalmer,

Ah OK I was mistaken and under the impression that it was originally created under Ford ownership, but it actually stems from the British Leyland era.

However the XJR-15 and XJ220 were under Ford, and look sensational. (Although most of the development was probably done while Jag was still independent).

eletes,
@eletes@sh.itjust.works avatar

Saw one in traffic the other day and loved the look but wondered if they still live in the shop these days

Dark_Blade,
@Dark_Blade@lemmy.world avatar

Great looks and shit everything else would be super on-brand for Jaguar

TheGiantKorean,
@TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world avatar

One could make the argument for Disney buying Marvel. They made some great movies. They had also then had enough cash to buy back X-Men, etc and bring everything back in under Marvel Studios. Not a big fan of Marvel stuff lately, but everything up through Endgame was great, especially for a comic nerd like myself.

Pulptastic,

Some stuff hasn’t resonated well but there’s still some that’s been great. Loki, She Hulk, Guardians Xmas, Guardians 3, BP2. I am excited for The Marvels. Shang Chi was meh the first time but on a rewatch after watching some of this other stuff I got more of the connections and enjoyed it more.

TheGiantKorean,
@TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world avatar

True! I enjoyed Loki. Ms Marvel was OK. Shang Chi was fun. Generally though, I feel that things have gotten really watered down and the quality has taken a nosedive. I haven’t bothered watching the new Thor or Ant-Man. The Marvels looks great, but I’m not holding my breath. I’m really really hoping that Fantastic 4 is good, and done properly this time (especially Doom).

gnuplusmatt,

Quantumania got a bad rap, but I actually enjoyed it. It was pretty CG heavy and that detracted from it a bit, but it was still fun and an interesting episode to start what ever season we’re up to now.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I really enjoyed it. I’m not sure why it got so much hate.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

I liked it too but it is very obviously a bad BAD BAD movie.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I apparently go against the flow. I didn’t like Avengers: Endgame (I only watched it to find out what happens) and, while we’re at it, I didn’t like Rogue One either.

pinkdrunkenelephants, (edited )

I fucking despise Rogue One and would rather sit through Jar-Jar Binks singing Bohemian Rhapsody through the duration of the entire song than to have to sit and watch that monstrosity of a movie again.

I do not want to watch some poor girl get told off, put down, and kicked down by everyone else around her simply because she was a sacrificial lamb for the overarching plot and everyone else knew it but her. And that’s all Rogue One was.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly, I just thought it was mostly boring except for that one Darth Vader scene.

AustralianSimon,

Modok was terrible but the overall movie was alright imho

Pulptastic,

F4 has such high expectations I don’t think it can be done properly.

I thought Krasinski was a good Mr. Fantastic in Dr Strange 3, so we’ll see where they take it.

TheGiantKorean,
@TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world avatar

Agreed. They should keep him in the role. He’s the fan favorite.

loobkoob,
loobkoob avatar

I didn't dislike Krasinski in Dr Strange 2 but I wasn't fully sold on him. He was fine for a cameo, but I don't think he'd pull off the character in a lead role. Mr Fantastic - or at least my interpretation of him - has always been arrogant, aloof and disconnected. It's clear he thinks he's the smartest person in the room (because he is, and probably the planet), and he's not necessarily a cold person but it's obvious he focuses more on his work than on the people around him, even if he does care about them. Krasinski just never sold me on being the smartest person on the planet, not did he really nail the slightly disconnected aspect of the character, I feel.

It's perhaps a slightly weird suggestion, but I've always felt that Glenn Howerton (Dennis from It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia) would be my ideal Mr Fantastic. He can absolutely pull of that arrogant, slightly narcissistic aspect of the character, but I feel like he can do it in a charismatic, likeable way. And he can definitely sell the idea that he's very intelligent. Plus he looks the part.

Dark_Blade,
@Dark_Blade@lemmy.world avatar

I’m sorry, but She Hulk? Loki was whatever, the Xmas special and BP2 were fine and Guardians 3 was amazing, but really?

Sorry, I know it’s just an opinion but I got severe whiplash seeing that title up there.

Pulptastic,

Yep She Hulk was one of my favorites, probably the funniest of the marvel TV shows. The ending was weird but I loved everything else about it.

Dark_Blade,
@Dark_Blade@lemmy.world avatar

Every day I’m on this Earth, the sheer breadth of human diversity (especially when it comes to thoughts and opinions) continues to astound me.

stephenc,

“Great” meaning great gigantic messes of nonsensical fanservice and a flood of movies and shows all tied to each other so if you miss one episode of Obscure Marvel Kerfuffle Re-re-revisited you’ll be lost.

You know, like fucking Star Wars is now.

Disney is fucking evil. Fuck Disney.

Peppycito,

Were you around when “The Secret War” series came out in the comics? The plot line ran through every single title in the Marvel catalog. Just keeping up with Spiderman required reading four issues. That strategy of story telling wasn’t invented by Disney.

lightnsfw,

I like it. It’s better than every story being inconsistent. I haven’t watched all the marvel stuff and don’t feel like I missed much really.

stephenc,

They didn’t have to copy it, now did they? Just because something was shit before something else was shit isn’t a fucking excuse.

Dark_Blade,
@Dark_Blade@lemmy.world avatar

As others have said, something being stupid in the past doesn’t excuse it being stupid now. And hey, I’d get it if we were still dealing with a couple movies a year, but now it’s a flood of content that nobody can keep up with unless Marvel is their only hobby.

KidsTryThisAtHome,

Disney is literally racist, sexist, homophobic… Etc. You name it. They cave to China for money every time, even if it’s shrinking or even removing black people from their posters

xkforce,

My dude… the plot lines in comic books were so convoluted that the writers literally came up with an in canon catastrophe to clean up the timeline by collapsing countless alternate universes. Superhero movies being tied to each other and having a convulted mess of a plot that makes you feel lost if you miss “obscure marvel kerfluffle 3 wrath of the plot device” is very on brand for comics based media.

stephenc,

And that’s where comic books went to shit, too. Do kids these days really have no real arguments for anything besides citing even more bullshit to support their bullshit?

Peppycito,
  • old man yells at comic book
elephantium,
@elephantium@lemmy.world avatar

I enjoyed the story arc leading up to Endgame, but since then, they’ve filmed so much that I just feel like I can’t keep up. The last movie I watched was Multiverse of Madness where I spent about half the movie going “Huh, I feel like I’m missing stuff from the Wanda TV show”. I had never seen Spider-Man: No Way Home, either. And I guess there was a Loki show and a Marvel “What If” series, too?

Being a Marvel fan shouldn’t have to be a job!

DragonTypeWyvern,

You absolutely needed to watch the show to not get complete whiplash from Scarlet Witch Wanda

TheGiantKorean,
@TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly. After they claimed that you wouldn’t need to watch the shows to know what’s going on.

elephantium,
@elephantium@lemmy.world avatar

Yep. That would require a subscription to disney plus, but I’m not really interested in doing that. It’s too much effort for the payoff.

What’s the payoff? Well, I watched Multiverse of Madness on a flight to see relatives last year. Out of the movies in the plane’s catalog, it was one of the more-interesting ones. So – the payoff is understanding a random in-flight movie a little better.

I might just steer clear of any Marvel movies next time.

emptyother,
@emptyother@programming.dev avatar

going “Huh, I feel like I’m missing stuff

Thats how it is to read a Marvel comic too. I love it. But it is not for everyone. And in comics there is too much to keep up so you just accept that you cant.

EvolvedTurtle,

With Disney buying starwars I didn’t like what they did with the sequels but just about everything else they did amazingly

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Volvo has done way better under Geely than they ever have under GM.

Pyroglyph,
@Pyroglyph@lemmy.world avatar

From what I heard, Geely bought them and just said “here’s a bunch of money, do whatever the fuck you want”, and they suddenly started making good stuff.

I wish someone would do that to me, haha

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Geely did improve their quality and safety significantly by using Volvo’s engineering expertise so it is a win-win for both, and I hope they’ll revitalize Proton and Lotus the same way.

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

This confused me for a second because folks so often call Valve Software, Volvo 😂

boeman,

Volvo has done way better under Geely than they ever have under GM Ford.

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Oops, you are right! It is Ford.

EveningPancakes,

Ducati being bought by Audi. Maintenance intervals got better, instead of doing valve adjustments every 7500 miles. It did make the brand move away from dry clutch to a wet clutch, losing some of their iconic sounds (“I dunno man, should the engine sound like that when idling? Sounds like two metal wrenches hitting each other.”)

davidgro,

Android being bought by Google

Venomnik0,

You know out of all things i miss the candy names

TechyDad,
@TechyDad@lemmy.world avatar

We’d be up to Android “Toffee” with Android “Uncooked Cookie Dough” coming out soon.

someguy7734206,

It seems they still use dessert-based codenames internally. Apprently, Android 13 is Tiramisu, and Android 14 is Upside-Down Cake.

mlg,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

I think android 7 was where it peaked with development and features.

It’s been jvm dalvik hell since then with Google taking a dump on the Linux kernel.

davidgro,

Perhaps 8 or 9 in my opinion - removing background clipboard access in 10 was a Huge defeature.

I jumped from 8 to 13 on my (new) personal devices, so I missed a lot of firsthand experience, but the clipboard thing still affected me by making apps like Google Translate worse.

13 does seem pretty nice in a lot of ways - notifications are even more capable than they were in 8, for example. But I do notice it being more restrictive in some ways too.

Dark_Blade,
@Dark_Blade@lemmy.world avatar

YouTube too. For all the shit we give Google for it, there’s no way it could’ve grown into what it is if it didn’t have all that spare cash to burn.

JokeDeity,

Up to a point, now it feels worse and worse every new version.

RGB3x3,

I’ve been feeling lately that Google has lost the plot. Material You is an ugly, inconsistent mess, usability is worse, and you can’t expect any feature to stick around because Google is so unreliable.

Android 11 was the last version that felt refined and stable. It was clean, usable, and organized.

JokeDeity,

I’m going to say 10 because I think 11 was when they first started making it difficult to move apps to SD card external storage and for me that was the beginning of the fuckery.

Jakeroxs,

It’s hard to justify keeping a feature around that potentially breaks new features for such a small population tbh.

Dark_Blade,
@Dark_Blade@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly, it feels like Google lost the plot (for the most part) almost a decade ago. Android was really the only product that was consistently chugging along; most of their projects have been nothing but premature cancellations, even if the product was actually good (I’m looking at you, Inbox).

RGB3x3,

I’m currently really mad at them for setting up to cancel Google Podcasts just so they can move podcasts into YouTube Music.

Why do these companies keep having to consolidate functions into ever-more complex apps? What happened to the separation of function so that they do one thing really well instead of many things poorly?

Gpinmg,

🤯 Holy crap how did I not know this! I thought they developed it in house!

CMahaff,

Looked up the history and they bought it so early on that effectively the whole thing was developed by Google.

They bought the startup in 2005 and the first phone came out in 2008.

papalonian,

Android used to be it’s own thing, check out the “Droid” phones.

rivingtondown,

What do you mean by this? What did Motorola Droid phones have to do with Google owning Android or Android being it’s own company back in like… 2003? The first Droid used Android as developed by Google in 2009. Google had aquired Android years prior to Droid being a thing. Most Android devices are not created by Google, even to this day.

papalonian,

I didn’t realize that Google owned the company at that time. I don’t remember the advertisements blasting Google’s name like they tend to do now. I know that most Android phones aren’t made by Google, I was mistaken in thinking the Droid was a popular android device prior to acquisition

Jakeroxs,

This is exactly why they started blasting their name on everything lol

notatoad,

“droid” was actually a verizon brand, not motorola or google. any droid-branded phone was a verizon rebranding of a phone that was sold as something else outside the US.

but yeah, android never existed outside of google. Google bought out android before their first public release.

Demographics,

The Droid turbo phone did nothing wrong.

negativeyoda,

Jaguars supposedly got much more reliable after being bought by Ford

fruitdealer,

My poor friend that is on his 3rd engine begs to disagree.

CmdrShepard,

Well you know what Jaguar stands for, right? Found On Road Dead.

AureumTempus,

You mean Tata Motors? Jaguar is no longer owned by Ford, but by JLR (Jaguar Land Rover), which is a subsidiary of Tata Motors.

clegko,
@clegko@lemmy.world avatar

Nope. Jaguars were absolute trash before Ford bought them out back in the day, then got a lot more reliable (but arguably uglier, so as not to compete with Aston Martin) when built with Ford stuff. Tata purchased them semi-recently and they’ve gotten even better.

OrekiWoof,

GitHub started adding new good features after being acquired by Microsoft

aes,

didn’t they like… scrape everyone’s open source code for an ai and then gatekeep that shit to their own infra?

Nioxic,

Thats kinda hard to prove though

hactar42,

And now Azure DevOps has completely been forgotten about. I was setting up an web app in Azure and it gave me the option to do continuous integration from GitHub, but not Azure DevOps.

elephantium,
@elephantium@lemmy.world avatar

This one hurts. My team at work currently uses AzDO for our build pipeline. It works pretty well, making it easy to trace which build actually got deployed, plus which git branch and commit got built. The variable substitution feature is pretty slick for test vs. prod builds, too.

You can put together continuous integration with Github Actions, but from what I’ve seen so far, it seems so much more primitive :(

mild_deviation,

GitHub recently got merge queues. I desperately want something like it for AzDops.

elephantium,
@elephantium@lemmy.world avatar

Interesting, sounds like merge queues can streamline some of the housekeeping around PRs. I’ll have to read up on them some more.

I wasn’t thinking about differences between Github and AzDops repos, only between GH actions and AZ pipelines. My team moved the code to Github a long time ago – AZ pipelines is perfectly happy having the code there.

Hmm, now I wonder if anyone keeps their code in AZ Repos and their CI stuff in Github Actions (probably not, it sounds absurd!)

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

Mixed feelings on this one; I think the jury is still out. I think I preferred GitHub being independent and focused on hosting source code and reviewing merge requests. But… I’m not sure if the product would’ve ended up any better without being under Microsoft.

Microsoft lately seems to take pretty hands off approaches and follow the “don’t fix what isn’t broken” rule well, which seems to be working for them.

insomniac,

They still behave like a monopoly. Microsoft owning everything is bad for tech even if they can throw money at it and make it “better.” I moved to codeberg.org and it’s been decent.

Dark_Blade,
@Dark_Blade@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I don’t think anyone’s denying that MS is a shitty company; we’re just talking about companies that have either improved, or haven’t gotten significantly worse, because some other company bought them out.

Zikeji,
@Zikeji@programming.dev avatar

The company I work for got bought out and from my perspective things have only improved. From the perspective of the random customer who has the first thing go wrong in half a decade though? Those immediately blame the acquisition.

idiomaddict,

Did they keep most employees on?

Zikeji,
@Zikeji@programming.dev avatar

The only employee replaced was the owner, which I’m not sure that counts. Another one resigned a few months after, because they found a new job.

idiomaddict,

Cool :)

thelastknowngod,

Not an apple fan really at all but buying that chip design company way back when seems to have been the right move. The M1 chip in my mbp is fantastic.

GamingChairModel,

Even before that, Apple owes its very existence to an acquisition. Acquiring Next allowed them to abandon their dying OS and start anew with OS X, and brought back in founder Steve Jobs (who Apple had previously fired). With Steve Jobs at the helm, they made the computers cool again to buy some time before the iPod completely turned the company around.

bob_wiley,

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  • Dark_Blade,
    @Dark_Blade@lemmy.world avatar

    An incredibly rare example of ‘I won’t buy it unless you pay me to’ actually working out in real life.

    AragornK,

    A similar thing happened with Pixar/Disney, where post acquisition Disney Animation Studios started to work a lot more like Pixar. Interestingly, Steve Jobs was also CEO and majority shareholder at Pixar up until that acquisition.

    bob_wiley,

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  • Dark_Blade,
    @Dark_Blade@lemmy.world avatar

    Nah, that would’ve spread the company too thin. Apple needed that laser-focus approach they had in the iPhone days, else they’d be dead.

    shalafi,

    It has some dumb problems though. Lack of dual monitor support and virtualization issues are painful for my users.

    clegko,
    @clegko@lemmy.world avatar

    Ive been running 2 1440p monitors off a M1 Mini since it’s launch, one over HDMI and one over DisplayPort via USB C… What’re you talking about?

    NotSteve_,

    Is the lack of dual monitor support only for the M1? I have an M1 Pro MBP for a work computer and it works fine with two monitors + the laptop screen

    insomniac,

    Yeah, it’s only the original M1

    ebc,

    I can confirm that dual monitors do work on my M2 Max, with the laptop’s own screen I’m at three. I use this setup everyday, no issues.

    bob_wiley,

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  • Jakeroxs,

    Windows 11 has 64bit ARM support with emulation for 64bit x86 apps, Windows 10 only does 32bit afaik.

    They can’t take the same step as Apple of just killing off x86 because they don’t control all aspects of the devices like Apple does

    Not saying I like the forceful move to ARM, I’m honestly not sure how worth it it will be in the long run, but who knows.

    bob_wiley,

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    They 100% have been selling ARM windows machines for years now, they just suck in comparison to x86

    They did push for universal binaries, but no devs wanted to make the switch, I actually appreciate that Windows didn’t bork all prior applications unilaterally like Apple does with most of their OS releases (I work for a company that has a program with Linux/windows/macOS and I swear every single major macOS update breaks shit and Apple doesn’t give a fuck)

    I don’t see the performance being comparable yet, at least in my experience the power of ARM is much more in its energy efficiency, it simply does not compete in actual real world power (at least yet)

    Ultimately I think it comes down more to Apple vs Windows approaches, Apple controls every aspect of every official device running macOS, windows is much more free form with so many manufacturers and different configurations being possible.

    I would never willingly purchase an Apple device for that reason, but I also like Linux, just too much of a gamer to constantly want to worry about compatability.

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  • Jakeroxs,

    Can you not just install Windows 11 normally on an ARM processor? I would think it’d be included with a normal installer but idk for sure, do people even build custom ARM rigs?

    Its sort of a give and take though still, you can’t really build a hackintosh without very specific parts so… The fact there is no “macOS for ARM” copy available at all makes the point somewhat moot no?

    UWP still exists, Microsoft is like the only one still developing them though, there are a few others but it’s definitely not a focus for any devs outside of Microsoft that I’ve seen.

    Though I do agree that Apple generally sticks to their decisions whether for better or for worse :p

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  • Jakeroxs,

    Right gotcha, wasn’t aware there isn’t an installable windows for ARM specifically.

    I know though, that’s kind of my point, the landscape and way in which windows works on way way more configurations compared to Mac (simply due to the differences we’ve both pointed out) makes it not quite a fair comparison, Apple controls all aspects of the hardware and ONLY their hardware (or choice of hardware) is made to work with it, so it’s much easier for them to develop and force people over to ARM or whatever specific system they’re pushing developers and users towards, whereas windows is much more backwards compatible and users/manufacturers/devs have a lot more options out there.

    Similar to Android vs iOS, it’s a lot easier to tightly control and force certain things when you’re the arbiter of where people can install apps, what hardware it can run on, and every design aspect.

    bob_wiley,

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  • Jakeroxs,

    Definitely true

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