Chozo,
Chozo avatar

Seems to be about what I'd expect from Meta, to be honest. I'm honestly surprised the list isn't even longer.

MysteriousSophon21,

Everything else comes under “other data” lol.

rovingnothing29,
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Prootje,

This is satire, right?

rsfitz6,

That was my first response. I looked it up and it’s real. Unbelievable.

VexCatalyst,

Damn, is there anything they don’t want to know?

kbity,
kbity avatar

What you think of them.

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  • LostCause,

    Well, blood type can be set under Health in iOS, so they‘ll probably know at least that since they ask for Health & Fitness info.

    Pseu,
    Pseu avatar

    They definitely want to know about your sex life. Advertisers want to target pregnant/expecting women, happily married people, unhappily married people, men in dry spells, gay men, lesbians, kinksters and so on. Even if they're not marketing sexual products, advertisers will want to target those groups.

    primaryuser,
    @primaryuser@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m shocked. Utterly shocked.

    No, really, I swear, this is my “shocked” face.

    whofearsthenight,

    Absolutely have to love all of the people on mastodon especially being like "but this makes the fediverse bigger what can go wrong" takes.

    asteroidrainfall,
    asteroidrainfall avatar

    I think mostly 50/50 between both camps, at least on my instance.

    atocci,
    atocci avatar

    I think it's a valid take to have. If it makes it possible to follow more people from my Mastodon account who I want to follow, that seems like a good thing. I won't be making an account there, but I think I'd like to at least have the option to follow the people who do.

    Rhodin,
    Rhodin avatar

    The MO for large companies who use open standards like this is to use the sheer gravitational pull of their ad dollars to get most people to sign up on ActivityPub, then change their own code just enough to break the experience for anyone trying to read their content from any other instance website or app.

    atocci,
    atocci avatar

    If that happens, won't we just be back to how things are now? People like you and me who are already here probably won't be making accounts on Threads, it will be pulling in new people who wouldn't have joined the fediverse otherwise. If they break something in their implementation of ActivityPub, we'll just be separated from them again which doesn't seem different from the current situation. The open source ActivityPub protocol we all currently rely on cant be taken away, so the independent instances we're already using should be fine too.

    exohuman,
    exohuman avatar

    Research what happened with XMPP thanks to Google. It’s the same thing here.

    atocci,
    atocci avatar

    I might be missing your point since I never used it, but looking around their website and reading Wikipedia, it doesn't look like a dead standard. Looking from the outside in, it seems like Google adopted the protocol and brought a lot of new users with them, and when they dropped it in 2013, they took those users with them again.

    It does feel very similar to ActivityPub today, but in a way that seems to support the point I was making. Correct me if im wrong, but it seems the people using XMPP through Google Talk signed up to use a Google service, while those who joined through independent providers did it for XMPP itself. Even with Google gone, it looks like those other providers continue to function and the protocol remains relevant to the people who want to use it, similar to ActivityPub right now.

    exohuman,
    exohuman avatar

    It’s basically in zombie mode right now. Most of the users left except for those on WhatsApp.

    numbscroll,
    numbscroll avatar

    @wrath@kbin.social ha yeah I noticed that too. I’m out of the loop, is Threads for sure their ActivityPub project, or is that a separate thing?

    asteroidrainfall,
    asteroidrainfall avatar

    It’s using ActivityPub. It’s interesting because Bluesky (basically, former Twitter) explicitly stated that they didn’t think AP was robust enough and created their own shitty protocol. Facebook might be one of the first traditional SNS platforms to experiment with AP. I would’ve been happier if it were Tumblr, who said they were working on implementing AP last year.

    I wonder how much of the recent Twitter drama has influenced Facebook’s decision to release Threads so soon after its announcement. It’s probably going to be shit quality and just try and monopolize on people leaving Twitter but not wanting to jump to Mastodon.

    numbscroll,
    numbscroll avatar

    Ok interesting. I need to read up more on it, I wonder what benefit Meta gets from building on or integrating with AP. Like a short term image / branding thing, or a longer play because there is some fear of what the fediverse could turn into without them.

    asteroidrainfall,
    asteroidrainfall avatar

    That’s pretty much what the controversy is about. People are, rightfully, afraid that Facebook will dominate AP and eventually destroy it (akin to Google and XMPP[1]). There are also those who, also rightfully, believe that this will help adoption of the AP protocol and bring innovation into the Fediverse (maybe like podcasting and Apple Podcasts have done for RSS). Both are valid, and we as members of the community and those who develop for this space should be cautious of corporate intrusion leading the innovation.

    [1] https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

    numbscroll,
    numbscroll avatar

    Great article. Thanks for sharing. Yep seems like they are coming for the 3 E’s.

    Auslander42,

    lol that’s classic Meta right there

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