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Saturdaycat, in Pochita artisan keycap
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So cute ! Nice fancy keycap!

vkeycaps,
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Thank you)

Awwab, in Pochita artisan keycap
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Well that is certainly unique.

vkeycaps,
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And I definitely had never stabbed myself with a chainsaw on this keycap

KoolKeys, in Anyone got any info/thoughts on the Mechs & Co. drama?
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Just a sign that what we already knew would happen, is happening. The bubble is bursting on the mechanical keyboard hobby mainstream pandemic blow up. Larger companies that rode the wave to growth are now facing some financial decisions I reckon. This story right here is not an isolated incident. IMO, there will be a slow, steady return to how things were pre-pandemic.... kind of 2018/19 levels of interest.

zebus,
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Spot on, they’re not the first and won’t be the last. I wonder who will be left when the dust settles.

KoolKeys,
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I made a similar comment on r/mk earlier, but what surprised me, is how many companies kept their foot on the gas.. and still are doing. I called this slowdown last year... loads of people did. The lockdown blow up was a craze... and all crazes burn brightly... for a short time only. Like I said. If I was a betting man, I would put money on this hobby falling back to what it was in 2018 or so by this time next year. All the commercial feeding frenzies will die off, and it will start to become a more hobby focused pastime instead of a consumer fuelled one. The more commercial side will slowly migrate back to the gaming space, and take its mass produced products with it. The only slightly worrying thing is how many respected vendors will remain? If this financial overstretching due to speculating on the extras market is widespread, there's gonna be a lot of fiscal shock for a lot of companies. Again, this has been on the cards for some time. I can remember when extras just got vacuumed up in hours. Some even really popular sets have been sitting as in stock items at some vendors for weeks now... sometimes months. I've just found GMK Daifuku in stock... GMK Botanical R3 in stock... These are sets that landed weeks ago. This time 18 months ago, that would have been highly unlikely. This started months ago as well. The long lead times mean that people speculated on this ahead of time, and hoped to make a big profit on extras. IMO, it was highly unlikely this would be a situation that would last very long... it just seemed so obvious, so why vendors thought they could make longer term financial decisions based on conditions that were caused by basically locking people in their homes in front of their computers is perhaps the biggest surprise here. I would have thought they would have predicted this.
Just airing my thoughts... :)

zebus,
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Yea I remember when I got into the hobby there were basically zero in-stock gmk sets or higher end boards. People wanted $100 over msrp for used items on mechmarket. I had to wait and be fast enough on an extra drops of each to pull off my first build. Now you got keysets and boards that delivered months ago and still have extras available.

But we don't know these guys situations, who knows, maybe they quit their day jobs to pursue this, they probably weren't in a position to think about it as rationally as you are.

The part that shocks me even more than that is how clamming up and going unresponsive is becoming the go to signature move. You think it would be common sense that to come out ok on situations like these you have to get ahead of it, going silent and just letting people gossip and speculate is just going to make things worse. Even if the situation was horrendously bad, you'd still be better off communicating.

Look at the Aeternus guy, he stole all the gb funds bc he had a "personal emergency". Dude was so beloved by the community that he still has people to this day defending him online even tho he ghosted months ago. Chances are had he just been upfront he probably could of set up a gofundme and got whatever money he needed, I literally don't even understand the logic hoops these guys are jumping thru.

Like I'm guessing the reason my GMK Moonlight from Mechs&Co hasn't shipped is they probably never ordered the deskmats and absorbed the funds since that was the one thing that was on them to order. If I just had a way to contact them, hell, I'd tell them to just cancel the deskmat and keep the money and send me my base set. But I can't. We're an understanding community, we get it, but it's like people are going out of their way to put themselves in the least defensible position possible.

funnyletter,

The classic hobby drama: Hobby has a surge in popularity, Very Small Business bites off way more than they can chew, Very Small Business collapses and/or ghosts while owing people a bunch of money/product.

NV43, in Glove80 vs Moonlander Mark I? [opinions needed]

I had my eyes on a Moonlander but ended up sticking with my Iris Rev 3 and jumping on the Kickstarter for the Dygma Defy. Eagerly awaiting that one. I know this isn't really helpful but maybe just another option to consider.

For switches I really like my Zilents but there are plenty of great options out there at a wide range of prices. If you can I recommend getting a switch tester to try out a handful of options.

zebus, in Anyone got any info/thoughts on the Mechs & Co. drama?
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Another update from MW, Mechs&Co. hasn’t paid for any of their keycap sets, yikes.

zebus,
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Official statement from geekhack and r/mk:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=120674.0

FoodDude, in Accidental keypresses on my first mechanical keyboard

I have the same keyboard. The space bar is so heavy with the light switches it almost presses itself. I'm thinking about replacing the switches on the larger keys to some linears with more force

tojikomori, in Accidental keypresses on my first mechanical keyboard
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Or should I swap the switches out for something heavier/clickier?

Definitely. You made a good choice getting a hot-swappable keyboard. That makes it easy to experiment with different switches until you find one that's comfortable.

You might find that changes over time too, or even that you have different preferences for different keys or contexts, so it's worth keeping the old switches around.

But don't try to convince your fingers that they need to be retrained to type more lightly. The reason there are so many different kinds of switches is that different weights and haptics feel better for different people.

HidingCat, in Accidental keypresses on my first mechanical keyboard

Initial force: 35gf min

Yea, these sound pretty light, no wonder you're getting accidental key presses.

lemmy, in Accidental keypresses on my first mechanical keyboard

my dad really struggled for his first couple months with a mech keyboard after using membrane for 30 years. took a couple months but, he got used to it

kukkurovaca, in Accidental keypresses on my first mechanical keyboard
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Switch weight preference is pretty personal. I like really heavy springs, but lots of folks do not. I would at least give it a couple weeks and see if it keeps being an issue for you.

It is generally a best practice to type with your hands held above the keyboard with forearms roughly parallel to the floor (may require desk height adjustment). You shouldn't actually be putting weight on the keys when not typing (but I know that is sometimes easier said than done.)

Awwab, in Accidental keypresses on my first mechanical keyboard
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I got speed silvers after using blues for years and noticed some double clicking as my fingers got used to board.

BaldProphet, in Accidental keypresses on my first mechanical keyboard
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You might need a heavier spring on some keys. I have a heavier switch on my spacebar than all my other keys for exactly this reason.

wjrii, (edited ) in Accidental keypresses on my first mechanical keyboard
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Lubed 35g linears would indeed be fairly light and sensitive, though obviously they work for many people.

You don't have to go clicky, though as a WFH guy with a separate room as an office, I go for MOAR CLICKY! Still, something tactile but not clicky and actuation force around 45 or 55g might serve you better if you're sure there's no hardware issue. Some people will buy a small number of stiffer switches that are otherwise similar to the keyboard's main set and just replace the modifier and punctuation keys like Shift, Ctrl, spacebar, etc.

LASERman, in How do I find keycaps with the same side print on them?

Those legends are specific to this one keyboard not common with other ones, and therefore no alternative keycaps with the same legends exist.

ZILtoid1991, in How do I find keycaps with the same side print on them?
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This likely will be a DIY job.

If you're planning on getting white PBT keycaps, you can dye sublime them. You can put stickers there otherwise.

tojikomori,
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Are there any brands well known for making side-stickers or transfers that are relatively easy to line up?

ZILtoid1991,
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That's the issue. There's none to my knowledge.

Avalanched,
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Dye sublime sounds interesting, I'll definitely take a look at that.

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