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yukichigai, in Randall spittin' facts
yukichigai avatar

Communists? Nah, not a problem. I mean I'm a Star Trek fan, and while it's not played up that much the Federation is a post-scarcity socialist-adjacent society. I'm all for everyone having their basic needs met without condition or obligation, and money being obsolete.

Tankies though can fuck right off. North Korea is not a bastion of democracy. China is not more free than the US. This is not a comparison even worth entertaining.

Astroturfed,

Exactly, the tankies make me not want to talk about/positively about communist theory. I’ve always aligned more with socialist ideas but wasn’t opposed to the idea of communism. The tankies make me just cringe when someone brings up communism now. It’s like all the edgelords who have no real world experiences have gather together under the tanky flag.

huginn,

Reminds me of when I got blocked from /r/socialism for “Western imperialist apologia”

What did I say that was so spicy?

I called N Korea a failed little junta state.

That was literally the entire comment.

Custoslibera,

Star Trek is fully automatic gay space communism.

It’s not socialist adjacent.

yukichigai,
yukichigai avatar

Counterpoint: Riker.

Look, I know the Federation doesn't have money, but they probably brought it back just to charge Riker for all the extra cleanup required every time he visited the holodeck.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Quark’s Holosuites were never clean again after Riker came aboard DS9.

Cleverdawny,

I don’t think anyone has a problem with post scarcity utopian idealism, we just aren’t at the post scarcity part yet

Fried_out_Kombi, in Genzedong get mad when people don't like the CCP
@Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world avatar

One of my roommates in undergrad was from China, and whenever he went back to China to visit his family, we literally couldn’t contact him because all the messaging apps/services we use are blocked in China.

Another family friend of mine lived and taught in Macau as a professor for a while, and he explained how he had to get a VPN just to access the regular internet.

Any government that locks down access like that is not one worthy of admiration. It’s insane that people defend the CCP.

Redhotkurt,
Redhotkurt avatar

It’s insane that people defend the CCP.

They're already here, in this thread. Guess what instance they're from.

Gormadt,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Judging by how empty I see this comment section I’m going to guess Hexbear.

I’m so happy we’re no longer federated with them.

Whisp,

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  • Fried_out_Kombi,
    @Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world avatar

    I know lemmy.world is defederated from hexbear. I think lemmy.blahaj.zone is, too.

    Gormadt,
    @Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    I’m over on lemmy.blahaj.zone

    It’s a really nice queer friendly space, also home to the apartment of awesome 196

    can,

    How many guesses do I get?

    520,

    It’s insane that people defend the CCP.

    You have to understand that there are a lot of people that genuinely like the CCP because under them, there are a lot of people that went from the likes of farmers and factory workers to a serious middle class, with all the improvements to the quality of life that entails. You'd be surprised what people are willing to forgive in exchange for this.

    The CCP monitoring program also extends far beyond the country borders as well, and while they would not dare do an extraordinary rendition for pissing off the CCP, many expats still have family within Chinese borders that are completely fair game for the CCP to do as they please with. So many expats won't risk it. The CCP are already known for fucking with families just because some of its members have expatriated. And they don't have a limit to how far they'll go. Concentration camps are nothing new there.

    mexicancartel,

    I’m confused. Why the heck marxism = China? Isnt that a different ideology?

    SeaJ,

    Tankies are under the delusion that China is communist.

    LarkinDePark,

    Nobody thinks China is communist. You haven’t a breeze what you’re talking about. Stop commenting.

    LarkinDePark,

    It’s a far cry from running the world’s largest network of slave camps like the US does. But you go off about internet access.

    AdlachGyfiawn,
    @AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    It’s very first-world of you that access to garbage like Reddit or Twitter is apparently more important than the single greatest reduction of poverty in human history—and even more typical that you are either ignorant of or deliberately ignoring the hundred years of precedent that says China is utterly correct in believing the West would abuse the lowering of the Great Firewall to try and foment reactionary revolt.

    aport,

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  • LarkinDePark,

    They’re pointing out how weird the focus on internet access is. It’s a child’s view of the world.

    WtfEvenIsExistence,

    Its quite insane actually. I was the second child my mother gave birth to during the one child policy. They would’ve tried to force her to get an abortion if they knew. But she hid the pregnancy until she gave birth to me. They couldn’t justify killing a child that has already been born, so I lived, but they still made my parents pay tens of thousands of RMB (¥) to get legal documents like birth certificates.

    My mother still have pro-ccp views. Like wtf. But everytime she start spewing shit like that, I’ll just tell her “If you support the communist party, do you agree that I shouldn’t have been born?” That usually shut her up.

    Also, this community has one of those “Marxist-Leninist” as a moderator so I’ll make an archive of this.

    OhStopYellingAtMe, in Defediverse
    @OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world avatar

    Fuck that. Defederate all Nazis.

    starman2112,
    @starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

    More like de-head-erate all nazis lmao

    Kerrigor, in Being “gifted”, only makes you wish you weren’t sometimes
    Kerrigor avatar

    I'm in this picture and it makes me keenly aware of what I could accomplish if I didn't just coast by

    blanketswithsmallpox,
    blanketswithsmallpox avatar

    AscendedMeme.jpg: Being Dumb | Being Gifted | Being Just Smart Enough to Coast by Easily in life while enjoying it.

    ButtholeSpiders,
    @ButtholeSpiders@startrek.website avatar

    Go with what makes you happiest, most often more effort can lead to less rewards. Ultimately you have to find your comfort zone.

    KreekyBonez,

    wise words. I started just playing to my strengths a few years ago, instead of overachieving for the nebulous award of being “the best”, and my life has gotten immensely more fulfilling.

    my current employer isn’t asking me to be the best in my field, just good at what I do, and that feels great. I get shit done, and don’t feel the need to constantly reinvent the wheel. or feel the stress of failure when something is over my head.

    Squizzy,

    We all think we are there, it’s not a good mentality. No judgement, I am with you

    OsrsNeedsF2P,

    I’m in this picture too, but the red part

    AllonzeeLV, in Different forms of capitalism

    “You only hurt poor people by providing aid to them. If you want to help them, let them suffer on that sidewalk so they learn to help themselves!

    Oh wait, that sidewalk is too close to my property, reducing its value. Have the capital holder defense force police destroy that box they’re using for shelter, force them to go somewhere else, and then do nothing for them so they learn to help themselves.

    I’m a humanitarian!”

    -Capitalists & capitalism sycophant peasants

    imgonnatrythis, in Lemmy might, MIGHT have a small bias towards the left

    Wtf is an uncorrupt government?

    dannoffs,
    @dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Exactly. We could also eliminate carbon emissions by moving everything via unicorns and fairy dust.

    asg101,

    A contradiction in terms? Fantasy?

    PeleSpirit,

    Wtf is an uncorrupt capitalist society? We have to try to keep both in check and will never be perfect.

    GreenMario,

    “Military Intelligence”

    Two words combined that can’t make sense 🎵

    bigboopballs,

    based megadeth

    UnicodeHamSic,
    idunnololz,
    @idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

    Honestly I believe this to be a way more important issue to discuss than the whole capitalism vs socialism vs communism vs whatever else argument. If your ideas can easily be perverted by corruption then it won’t work.

    I have some ideas but I’m just some idiot on the internet. I think you need checks and balances. Have at least two groups with similar power at odds with one another. One example is corporation vs government. But I don’t think just 2 groups is good enough. Ideally you probably want 3 groups at the very least. I know many governments around the world already uses this sort of structure internally (eg different branches of government), but I don’t think these solutions take into account the existence of mega corporations that can act across country borders.

    Shunned_Marble4378,

    you mean for example germanys separated power of the legislative, executive and judicative powers? yeah, that works out pretty shit.

    dingus,
    @dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

    All types of governance and economic systems are susceptible to despotism.

    It takes a constantly educated and involved population to fight it.

    BleatingZombie,

    Serious question. Is it possible to do this with very large populations? It seems like it might get inherently more complicated with several tiers of government (federal, state, county, city, etc…)

    dingus,
    @dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

    It definitely feels like Dunbar’s Number is a gate to keep this from being effective in large communities.

    If we can’t view more than a finite amount of other humans as being “real,” how do we begin to get massively large groups of humans to care for one another? This is a question I don’t have the answer to.

    Deceptichum,
    Deceptichum avatar

    Because you don’t have to view them as “real” to know that caring for others can make things better for you too.

    I don’t think the issue is the being able to care, the issue is the arseholes turning groups against each other for their own gain.

    Cryophilia,

    “I only do the right thing because God will punish me if I don’t” vibes lol.

    Why can’t you just operate from a principle of making things better for everyone?

    NightAuthor,

    Never older than like 12 hours

    Gormadt,
    @Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Bold assumption that it’d take that long

    poplectic, in Don't let him see you cry.

    It’s when they all emerge from the kitchen to look over at you, you know you’ve made a mistake!

    abbadon420, in I think its over guys

    It’s been over since they blocked third party apps. I don’t know what you were fighting for, but I wanted to stay on reddit and RIF was reddit, so I fought for RIF. Now that RIF is gone, reddit is gone. There is nothing to fight for. They say “reddit beat down the protest”, but that’s a bullshit interpretation. The core of the protest just left and Reddit beat down the left overs. Sure, Reddit won in the sense that things are quiet again, but they also have a valid competition now, where they had a monopoly before.

    RedditWanderer,

    Maybe spez would have turned back during the protests but after 3rd party apps officially disconnected, there was no turning back. Next is karma for sale and verified checkmarks for 8$.

    The week after the switch linkedin recruiters started poking me about “interesting opportunities at reddit that aren’t posted publicly yet”. Lmao

    TimeSquirrel, in I like having proprietary surveillance listening device in my house
    TimeSquirrel avatar

    People, if you want to discuss your fetishes or crimes or whatever you want around a smart speaker, just unplug the damn thing. It's not that hard. I got them all over the house because I'm an automation geek but I'm well aware of what I say around them. With a Pihole on the network, I don't get targeted ads either.

    Also, they don't send your audio to their servers 24/7. I've verified this myself with Wireshark. That would be a hell of a lot of server resources they would need, and they can get info easier just by profiling and fingerprinting you online.

    Frog-Brawler,
    Frog-Brawler avatar

    This makes me happy to see your comment as the first comment in here.

    goddard_guryon,

    Uhhh…it’s the only [top] comment here. Are you seeing something I’m not? ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)

    Frog-Brawler,
    Frog-Brawler avatar

    Uhhh.... when I responded I was the second comment in the thread. Second is after first.

    JackbyDev,

    I have a smart camera plugged into a different brand’s smart plug in my bedroom. This way we can turn the plug on when we are away and see our cat, but a hacker would be less likely able to see up sleeping. (Also we leave it off by default.)

    Spike,

    YET THE ABOMINABLE MACHINE SPEAKS! PURGE IT WITH HOLY FIRE!

    ArcticLynx,

    ah yes the good old convenience > privacy

    amazon thanks you

    TimeSquirrel,
    TimeSquirrel avatar

    It's not about convenience. It's part of my hobby. I develop open source IoT devices. And I test them for interoperability with commerical solutions.

    ArcticLynx,

    ah that’s understandable

    still, I think for most people it’s simply convenience > privacy

    pjhenry1216,

    I mean, everyone makes the tradeoff of convenience and privacy somewhere. You do leave some privacy behind in many aspects of your life simply because life would be much more difficult without it. You just draw your line in a different spot than someone else. It's still simply an arbitrary line. No point in being smug because you drew your line somewhere else. Theres nothing wrong with tradeoffs as long as you're well aware of what is involved and are ok with what you're providing in return.

    Diabolo96,

    It’s technically possible to make your own 100% local smart house with an llm ( i think the best for automated text to api is called gorilla 7b ) using llama.ccp , whisper for transcription and tortoise (it got 10x faster recently ) for realistic lifelike tts. 1 powerful pc is the maestro, multiple raspberry pi l with a 10inch display and a microphone to handle the input part.

    TimeSquirrel,
    TimeSquirrel avatar

    Homeassistant apparently are going all in on voice control too with their next round of updates, so hopefully soon I can get rid of the Google Home crap I got now.

    VanillaGorilla,

    Nice, I think I should finally target that one

    Strayce, in the whole fediverse is wholesome ❤

    I actually saw someone change their mind in a heated thread. It was amazing.

    Ozzy,

    What open mindedness does to a mf

    DragonTypeWyvern,

    It used to happen on Reddit.

    Then the Trumpening…

    Knusper,

    Yeah, on Reddit, especially in bigger communities, if you admitted you were wrong about something (or not at least technically correct in some way), you’d get downvoted and had asshats commenting how dumb you are, so they’d get upvoted for that.

    Here, there’s less people to dunk on you, and I imagine, also just fewer kids, who need the validation from dunking and aren’t yet as self-reflected…

    Robdor, in Winning is relative

    I prefer co-op games like the James Webb telescope. Thanks ESA for a perfect launch.

    ParsnipWitch,

    It is amazing what humans can do when we all work together for something that’s good. I think it’s really when people start trying to take advantage of each other when it all goes downhill…

    PenguinJuice,

    I'm a simple man, I see actual accomplishments of mankind being mentioned and I upvote.

    Line go up is for smooth brained animals.

    Rocket go up is for true gentlemen.

    exu,

    Cool pictures also make monkey brain happy.

    stufkes, in The third panel does not need text

    If you see yourself in this meme, here’s two books for you to read:

    1. “Running on Empty: Overcome Your Childhood Emotional Neglect” by Jonice Webb
    2. "Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents: How to Heal from Distant, Rejecting, or Self-Involved Parents" by Lindsay C Gibson

    The first one is specifically about how neglect can manifest itself. If you find your parents love you but you still feel empty or devoid of their affection, this might be useful. Especially good to read when you don’t buy the “depression is just genetic and it just happens to some people” narrative.

    The second one is more general about different types of connection and bonding. Very useful to understand where your parents might come from and why they behave(d) like they do/did. Also helps stem the tide against the current internet’s "everyone with bad behaviour is a narcissist " theme

    Haui,
    @Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    This is amazing. Thank you.

    kamenoko,

    I’ll add The Drama of the Gifted Child by Alice Miller which is a very short but powerful book that was the first to really advocate for children of abusive parents. It will also give you some tools to evaluate psychologists and make sure they aren’t using you for their unmet emotional needs.

    electrogamerman,

    Which book do you recommend if my parents loved me but didn’t know how to deal with a gay son? Or they love th parts that didn’t involve my sexuality and neglected everything else.

    AlligatorBlizzard,

    Let me know if you figure it out. My parents didn’t disown me when I came out as trans, but it probably would have been simpler if they had.

    electrogamerman,

    Sorry to hear that. Im sending you a virtual hug. Hope we can overcome it one day :)

    Oiconomia, in I don't see anything wrong with how we used to be

    We are big enough for reposts now? Great!

    Norgur,

    Always has been

    nicman24, in The state of the internet 2023

    Stop using chrome. Yes brave is chrome

    SkullGamer205,
    @SkullGamer205@mastodon.ml avatar

    @nicman24 firefox is not chromium....

    nicman24,

    Ikr

    FluffyToaster621,

    Firefox uses their own engine IIRC, that’s why more people should be using it so we can get some competition with Chromium.

    Flaky, (edited )
    @Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

    I think the management’s recent decisions, as well as the removal/lack of power-user features for those users, have moved a lot of people away from Firefox, myself included. They really need to focus on providing really good software, not get caught up in trying to chase trends or forcing services people don’t want. This WIRED article does a good job explaining the issues.

    I am keeping an eye on Pulse Browser, which is an experimental fork of Firefox with uBlock Origin pre-installed and some UI customisations. They’ve got a sidebar with “web panels” very much like Vivaldi’s Panels, and they’ve got vertical tabs like Edge. People also seem to be posting suggestions to their discussion page on GitHub. It’s early days, but if they listen and try to implement some of the suggested features to their best ability, it could be a much better Firefox than Firefox itself.

    randomguy2323,

    Yeah but if you dont support Mozilla Firefox the project will run out of resources and only one engine will be left chromium.

    Flaky,
    @Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

    Oh, I support Gecko. More browser engines to compete against Chromium the better. I just can’t support Firefox in its current state right now. Thankfully, Pulse seems to be picking up the slack in places.

    FluffyToaster621,

    Thank you for mentioning a non-chromium browser with vertical tabs, genuinely something FF would benefit from.

    Flaky, (edited )
    @Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

    No problem! Tree Style Tabs might also do the job on base Firefox with nested tabs, but it’s not as streamlined as Pulse or Edge, especially if you want to hide the tab bar (you have to edit .CSS files).

    edit: okay enabling both features, moving the main side panel to the right and enable tab collapsing makes a great space-saving setup.

    edit 2: now i’m using pulse as my main browser

    chocobo13z,

    Gecko, the underlying engine behind Firefox, is an entirely different code base from Chromium

    Smoogy,

    But that’s also not private as has been claimed as a reason to go FF. The only reason to use FF is only to not use chrome. Not for all the reasons that chrome is bad.

    zucky,

    Tor Browser, LibreWolf, and Arkenfox JS are the most secure and private browsers you can get and they’re all based on Firefox. If they’re not private enough for you, I don’t know what is

    Sigma,

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  • dukk, (edited )

    I think he means Firefox is not Chromium-based; Chrome is a proprietary code base, no one can access it besides internal Google employees. Chromium, on the other hand, is open source, and is what browsers such as Edge, Brave and Opera are based off of. Chrome is also based off Chromium, it’s the closed source browser Google distributes. Think of Chromium as Android, and the Pixel UI as Chrome. So no, I doubt he means Firefox is Chrome.

    Edit: seeing from the other comments, downvotes, and that the comment has been edited, he most likely made a typo and typed “Firefox is chromium.”

    Edit 2: Mistakenly said that Chromium was what Firefox was based off of when I meant to say Brave. My bad. I’m well aware Firefox isn’t Chromium-based(I use it for that reason), I was just confused as to why this person was saying he meant Firefox was Chrome, when the comment read “firefox is not chromium”. I later realized(in the above edit) that they must have written “firefox is chromium”, before editing it to “firefox is not chromium” after realizing he messed the comment up.

    beatle,

    Incorrect dukk. Firefox isn’t built on Chromium, Firefox predates google let alone Google chromium.

    dukk,

    I’m not saying Firefox uses Chromium? I specifically said that Firefox ISN’T based off Chrome/Chromium.

    Edit: Never mind, I see that I messed up the post.

    Venicon,
    @Venicon@lemmy.world avatar

    But you left it up like a real OG, respect.

    azimir,

    Firefox is the only major browser standing today that’s not based on Chromium, so you’re right there.

    Firefox does not predate Google. Firefox is a descendant of Mozilla, which started as a broken chunk of quickly open sourced Netscape Navigator 4.0 code. Netscape’s engineers ripped out everything they didn’t hold a license to and dumped it raw (and uncompilable) on the web for the OSS community to rebuild. This happed just before Netscape was finished being acquired by AOL.

    AOL did rebrand Netscape Navigator as AOL Browser, but it didn’t gain any significant market share.

    Google was founded about the same time (about two years later) as Netscape Navigator was released. So, you can either say Firefox’s history is older than Google or the actual Firefox project is younger than Google.

    beatle, (edited )

    In February 1998, approximately one year prior to its acquisition by AOL, Netscape released the source code for its browser and created the Mozilla Organization

    Google Founded September 4, 1998

    Mozilla, Gecko and what everyone now commonly refers to as Firefox predates Google.

    Edit: you’re technically correct of course, however I wasn’t about to complicate my reply with Netscape, Mozilla and Gecko history when the OP I was replying to was saying Firefox was built on Google Chromium.

    azimir,

    We’re all technically correct so far. Since that’s the best kind of correct I say we high five and enjoy reveling in our knowledge of nerddom history.

    beatle,

    The best kind indeed. You’re a good human.

    Mic_Check_One_Two,

    Nope. Firefox doesn’t use Chromium at all. It’s based on Gecko, an entirely different codebase that predates chromium.

    Mic_Check_One_Two,

    Firefox doesn’t use chromium. It uses Gecko, which is an entirely separate codebase.

    Rubezahl, in How i feel on Lemmy

    I am from Eastern Europe and I share this sentiment when I see anyone from the West defending communism. The issue is complicated but, to put it bluntly:

    No, Timothy, communism didn’t fail in Eastern Europe because it was implemented wrongly. This is a very complicated topic but the tldr summary is “It is a broken idea, it did not work and it will never work. The natural and logical outcome of any attempt at Marxism is a bloodbath followed by autocracy.”

    That being said, communism isn’t the only way to achieve a more equitable society. You have social democracy (in Lennin’s words - communism’s greatest adversary); organized labour movements; collectivist anarchism; communitariasm, etc.

    Communism, as applied in the 20th century, violently fought against or oppressed all of these movements and is incompatible with any of them.

    Not to mention that in most countries nowadays orthodox communists have been hugely discredited for excusing the Russian war of annihilation against the Ukrainian people.

    In conclusion, if you live in the USA or Western Europe and you are unhappy with how corporate greed has ruined society, don’t look to communism for answers. There are many other proposed solutions out there - go and research these. Communism is very well known, which makes it easily accessible to people who want change - but it is never, ever the solution.

    ReaganMcDonald,

    Move to a country like the Central African Republic and stop posting. You have a lot of work to do for Steve Jobs and you need to stop being lazy.

    Kecessa,

    At the same time I had a colleague that had to immigrate to Canada from Yugoslavia in her 40s and she told me life there even as a Serb + Catholic couple was the best she has ever experienced until things started to go bad in the 80s…

    Rubezahl,

    Nostalgia is huge in the eastern block. That’s a separate topic of discussion, all on its own.

    CthulhuOnIce,

    being from eastern Europe doesn’t automatically make your position on communism any more credible, especially when statistically most of your peers disagree with you

    Also it’s really hilarious how you claim that communism is more accessible to westerners than social democracy, like ???

    Granite,
    Granite avatar

    Yeah, in the West, we are suffering from unregulated capitalism and it’s hurting us badly. But that certainly doesn’t mean communism is good, especially authoritarian communism (which is exactly what we have historical examples of). We need social safety nets, better taxation, and fucking choices in the west.

    C4RP3_N0CT3M,

    Communism is authoritarian by nature. If everyone doesn't subscribe to the communist ideology, then the model simply doesn't work. This means you literally have no choice in a communist society but to be subjected to it. You also need some sort of authority to enforce the redistribution. Who decides who does that, and who gets what? My opinion is that the only way it'd work is maybe with AI, but even then, those in power will likely just manipulate the technology to continue to benefit themselves.

    norbert,
    norbert avatar

    On the same hand, even if you don't subscribe to capitalist ideology you're forced to participate.

    We (at least in the U.S.) have no real safety net for people who are unable to provide for themselves for whatever reason. Capitalism is great if you're the one with the capital but if not the world can be a brutal, uncaring place and you can quite literally die on the street.

    Crime is endemic to capitalism and I feel like better social safety nets would pay huge dividends in a lot of ways.

    rainh,

    Capitalism is not an ideology though. It's just what naturally happens when humans interact with each other. Saying it's an ideology is like saying atheism is a religion. No, it's what happens when there is no religion.

    Crime is also not endemic to capitalism. It happens in all societies, including communist ones.

    norbert,
    norbert avatar

    There are many many primitive societies with no concept of capital or capitalism so I think I'd take issue with your assertion that capitalism is "just what naturally happens when humans interact with each other."

    Rubezahl,

    Absolutely. There is nothing “natural” about capitalism. It sprung up in some place of the world (not all) a couple of centuries ago. Thousands of years of humanity and no capitalism before that.

    There is nothing natural or inevitable about capitalism. Historical determinism is plain wrong. Capitalism is just one of many ways to organize a society. Its time will pass in due course. Probably not in our lifetimes, unfortunately.

    stappern,

    . It’s just what naturally happens when humans interact with each other.

    what a dumb take. what happens when human interacts with each other is they fuck or kill each other…

    C4RP3_N0CT3M,

    That may be accurate, but we were discussing communism, not capitalism.

    norbert,
    norbert avatar

    Luckily this is a forum and we can all contribute to the discussion. If you read the comment you replied to you'll see they mentioned living under unregulated capitalism; I was adding to what they'd said.

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