Etterra,

Yeah but that would enable the prolonging of people’s lives. Given how shit life and the world are, I can’t engage or support that; it’d unethical for me force people to stay alive. Y’all do what you think is right, but I see it as needless cruelty.

kofe,

Er. You think everyone’s forced to accept donated blood (I’ll agree there’s probably some that would have preferred not, but everyone?)? Or is this a whoooooosh moment

FlashMobOfOne,
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

The last time I gave blood they wiggled the needle in my vein and gave me the wickedest bruise of my life.

Saganaki,

Similar experience. I doubled down by playing volleyball afterwards. The bruise was practically from wrist to shoulder.

Ultragigagigantic,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

The whole time I donate I think about the person who pays for it on the other end.

Sam_Bass,

Or cold if its 40 below

kadu,
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

Me suspecting my date is actually an Aedes spp. mosquito:

“heeeey so how about after this drink we hit the blood bank? You know, just the two of us and a lot, and I do mean a lot, of blood bags? How about that huh?”

name_NULL111653,

Also works with vampires…

stinerman,
@stinerman@midwest.social avatar

I’m O- so I give two units of red cells and get saline and the plasma/antibodies back. The guy at the donation site says “make sure you don’t drink any alcoholic beverages for 24 hours…but you can have one if you want.” He looks back to see if his manager is around and then whispers “you can have two but don’t leave the house.”

TheOakTree, (edited )

I can’t say I have something as useful as O-, but at least I can still do Power Red donos… though I forget if I’m A or B negative.

stinerman,
@stinerman@midwest.social avatar

You have to be A- or O- to do power red.

AndrasKrigare,

You have to be O+, O-, A-, or B- to do power red www.redcrossblood.org/…/power-red-donation.html

Or, put a different way, you can’t be A+, B+, AB+ or AB-. I’m O+ and have done power red.

stinerman,
@stinerman@midwest.social avatar

Yeah I’m wrong. Thanks for the correction.

TheOakTree,

Power Red is for type O, A negative or B negative donors

www.redcrossblood.org/…/power-red-donation.html

I_Fart_Glitter,

It’s a requirement at Red Cross but it’s just a recommendation at Vitalent- anyone can do anything but they have “ideal” donation types for each blood type.

www.vitalant.org/blog/…/power-red-donation

www.vitalant.org/learn/blood-types

stinerman,
@stinerman@midwest.social avatar

I stand corrected.

Kiosade,

People are so weird in their obsession with alcohol and getting drunk…

stinerman,
@stinerman@midwest.social avatar

I felt this way at one time when I was younger. Now I don’t give a shit what people want to do with their own bodies.

ipkpjersi,

It’s fun if you don’t overdo it, as long as it’s not an obsession and as long as it doesn’t interfere with your life. Like all things, moderation is key.

Kusimulkku,

Can be fine if you overdo it

Donkter,

I think what you’re missing is that getting drunk is very fun.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

This is it.

Some people drink 1 tequila, do a Hangover, and go, “Drinking is bad” smh

Boxtifer,

To be fair, alcohol is a poison.

meliaesc,

So is caffeine but we love coffee, tea, and chocolate too.

Batbro,

I get where you’re going but how many coffees does it take to kill a person vs how many beers

meliaesc,

About 4g of caffeine is lethal, npr.org/…/a-lawsuit-says-a-man-died-after-drinkin…

The lethal dose of alcohol is about 5 to 8 grams per kilogram of body weight.

TheOakTree,

Well, to be fair, as a 6 foot tall person I can only bandle one, maybe two drinks because of my genetics.

Drinking isn’t inherently bad, but it certainly isn’t too fun for me!

Kiosade,

Not to me, I’ve never understood that sentiment. I can act as silly as I want without being drunk, and I hate how it turns other people into almost different people. If I wanted to be friends with their drunken selves, I wouldn’t be friends with their sober selves.

Donkter,

Yeah I’ve noticed there’s a divide in the population in which half the people “know what it’s like” to get drunk, and it really isn’t for them. And they’re baffled by people who love to get drunk. It’s a different experience. People don’t get drunk just “to act as silly as they want”, that should be obvious.

EpicFailGuy,
@EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world avatar

some people prefer therapy,

The rest of us just drink until we can’t remember why we’re stressed.

Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it.

AVincentInSpace,

That sounds like a one way trip to becoming an alcoholic but you do you ig

NeptuneOrbit,

It’s a joke. It starts off cute and altruistic and then it finishes silly and kind of bad.

Kiosade, (edited )

I mean I get the structure of the joke, but in this case it’s just kind of sad. I think it’s because it is not SO exaggerated of a thing to do that I could actually envision some people doing this straight up…

YarHarSuperstar,
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world avatar

I doubt most people who would do this are doing it to be cool. Your comments show a serious lack of understanding when it comes to addiction.

Kiosade,

You’re totally right. I guess I was thinking of it from the angle of people who do things like this on purpose (but in control), not people who have lost control due to addiction or otherwise. Probably because of the “jokey” tone of the post.

SimplyATable,

Tbf, could be kinda fun if you don’t drink too much and get drunk drunk… So, not exactly what the post is saying but still

photonic_sorcerer, (edited )
@photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Saving lives is pretty hot, but its a shame they don’t let you do this if you’re gay or use cannabis.

Edit: this is getting out of hand, I do not live in the US. Happy for y’all that do! Although, overall I’m pretty glad not to be living there.

eestileib,

If you’re talking about the American Red Cross, they have removed most of the explicitly queerphobic rules. They still ask about high risk activities, but in a non gendered way.

It was kind of insane, though, that 20 years ago I was banned for life for having sucked cock. Turns out I was just boymoding, and as soon as I transitioned cocksucking became just fine for blood donation.

raptorattacks,

Just discovered these rule changes based on your comment. Unfortunately my partner and I still can’t donate blood (they’re on PREP, and I was in a vaccine trial that disqualifies me), but it’s cool that they’ve finally eliminated the worst of the queerphobia in the US.

I experienced the reverse of you - as soon as I transitioned I was disqualified as a trans man who has sex with men, even if the sex was identical pre- and post-transition. These were the previous “updated” rules that were supposed to be less queerphobic, but obviously weren’t hitting the mark.

eestileib,

Why TF would being on PrEP make you a higher risk?

raptorattacks,

Quoting from the red cross FAQ:

The waiting period is required due to these drugs interfering with viral replication and thus possibly altering the detectability of diagnostic and screening tests for HIV, including extending the window period prior to detectable infection or a delay in producing antibodies.

The Red Cross and the FDA support individuals making responsible choices for their health and the broader health of our communities. The Red Cross and FDA are involved in ongoing research, data collection and assessment related to transfusion safety, including the use of HIV preventative medications, and will continue to seek opportunities that could potentially help lead to additional changes. The Red Cross does not encourage individuals to stop taking these medications in order to donate blood.

photonic_sorcerer,
@photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Nope, the world isn’t the US.

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

If

Your brain: we will just ignore that

zagaberoo,

Who’s barring cannabis users? Red Cross at least only has a problem if your decision-making appears impaired. They don’t even ask you to wait between smoking and donating as long as you’re thinking clearly enough.

photonic_sorcerer,
@photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

People who take drugs are banned from giving blood in many countries.

LaLuzDelSol,

Nah that’s not true. Neither part is true. Go out and give blood!

photonic_sorcerer,
@photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Not where I’m from.

Reawake9179,

The gay part is true in some countries, even in Europe.

You have to deny it in a form before you’re able to donate

explodicle,

WHAT? I’ve donated blood while high on cannabis.

ExfilBravo,

Same. Hit the vape right before going in. Whoever gets that blood is probably going to fail a drug test.

importedreality,
@importedreality@programming.dev avatar

The American Red Cross has this on their website:

Q: I’m a heavy cannabis user. Can a transfusion recipient fail a drug test if they receive my blood?

A: No.

They don’t care if you’re high as a kite as long as it doesn’t impair your memory or comprehension (probably for legal reasons).

DestroyerOfWorlds,

if you’re going this far to get wrecked, just do heroin

lightnsfw,

Cool single idea: donate twice as much blood. Drink all the wine coolers yourself.

toastal,

Staring in the face of late-stage capitalism, the human race tries to find a glimmer of optimism. Can’t afford a real date, find it too hard to connect while sober.

corsicanguppy,

This is how Uni kids get drunk on $4 in 1995.

Blueteamsecguy,

I get drunk on $5 now

99’s are a beautiful thing

gbuttersnaps,

It’s how we did it for $10 in 2012 as well

Sabre363,

This is how we do it for $40 in 2024

TimeSquirrel,
TimeSquirrel avatar

But yet an eighth of weed now is still somehow the price of an eighth of weed then.

DrSteveBrule,

I think that has to do with legalization. At least where I live (still illegal recreationally), the street price of weed started to go up until Colorado and Washington legalized it 10 years ago. Then it dropped a lot, now it’s the same price as it was back then.

ThirdWorldOrder,

I was in a fraternity (Lambda Chi) and we would donate plasma for kegs. Worked well.

jodanlime,
@jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

I actually did this in my early 20s. Girlfriend at the time got super drunk super fast so I had to stay sober to drive us home.

jaybone,

You’re not supposed to get drunk at the donations facility.

jodanlime,
@jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

They didn’t have a sign posted, so I figured I was safe.

SanicHegehog,

If I want to mix vodka into the orange juice afterwards that’s my business.

Kusimulkku,

Driving to a party, smdh

jodanlime,
@jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

Yeah, this was before Uber existed and the town I lived in at the time had very sketchy and unreliable taxis, non-existent public transit.

Kusimulkku,

Oh. I guess not much else to do in that case.

Vilian,

…getting black out is cute?

HonkTonkWoman, (edited )

I mean… dunno about you, but I look my best with that sweet patina of sweat glistening on my forehead, a drop of drool meandering towards my chin, and a hot load in my drawers.

I may not remember some nights, but I rest easy knowing that I’m a damn fine lookin drunk. Too much booze also makes me smell amazing.

Oh, and I’m a great drunk cook too. You can absolutely trust me with that knife.

thefartographer,

Is that how you got the nickname Half-Pinky-Shit-Pants-Low-Blood-Drunk-Ass-Sally? I always wondered what the subtle inside joke was

HonkTonkWoman,

Nah, I got that nickname from my preacher one Sunday after church.

Gork,

A girl’s gotta have fun

ryannathans,

God yeah lemme hold her hair while she yaks up dinner

ChonkyOwlbear,

Quick way of finding out if your date has any STIs.

BenVimes,

At least last time I donated blood in my country (Canada), you could discretely indicate “do not use” by applying a different sticker to the bag. This was done in case someone got peer pressured into donating but didn’t want to reveal something private that would have disqualified them otherwise.

saigot,

Yes but they also test the blood and will call you if they have reason to believe you are positive.

emergencyfood,

We (India) don’t have that, mainly because blood bags don’t grow on trees, but there’s a question about sleeping eight hours the previous night that always seemed irrelevant. Now that I think about it, it might have been added for this purpose.

FreshLight,

Roughly the same here in Germany

Diplomjodler3,

And/or is a rapist

blanketswithsmallpox,

… Where do you live that rape DNA has been sequenced any time in the most recent 10 years or so? That’s so much raping that could be hand before you get from donating blood.

Don’t be a fuckface just because you rape. Try to cancel it out by donating blood, we use rapist blood just as well as we use a frat bros.

Cysioland,
@Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Are sex offenders forbidden from donating in the US?

irmoz,

No idea, but they’re certainly more likely to take advantage of someone who’s blackout drunk

ryannathans,

Or is gay

SnipingNinja,

Would probably find that out before you decide on a date

ProdigalFrog, (edited )

Gay people can donate blood now! (In the US, at least) :D

Also @photonic_sorcerer

zaphod,

Not everyone lives in America.

ProdigalFrog,

What’s the situation with donating in your area? :)

stinerman,
@stinerman@midwest.social avatar

On the internet, everyone is American.

Viking_Hippie,
CooperRedArmyDog,

I am glad my secret is safe… I am sure no one can figure out my secret.

Viking_Hippie,

Your secret is that you’re on the internet.

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

You called? I mean I’m not a dog but I am mostly canine so take it or leave it.

Viking_Hippie,

I don’t know… Are you SURE that my vehicle will be safe with you? 🤔

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

turns around and tapes over my ‘Hello, I’m’ nametag before turning back “absolutely!”

photonic_sorcerer,
@photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Oh, I didn’t know the American Red Cross made the rules for everybody in the world! Gee, thanks!

ProdigalFrog, (edited )

I was only offering what I knew to be true for my area locally, I didn’t want to speak on things I hadn’t researched. Looking it up, I guess it seems like it’s possible (with varying degrees of waiting period), in a pretty significant chunk of the world, so that’s even better than I thought, if still not ideal. ^^

photonic_sorcerer,
@photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Sorry, that did come across a little strong.

ProdigalFrog,

It’s all good :)

LethalSmack,

Sort of. Still can’t donate if you’re taking prep (hiv preventative) or if you’ve had sex with multiple people.

Need to be off prep for 3 months and not have sex with new or multiple partners.

The no prep part is a tough ask. Especially with how healthcare is

Much better than it was but it still excludes a huge portion of the community

ProdigalFrog,

Ahh, bummer :(

HenriVolney,

In my country, men are asked the same questions and no one is allowed to give blood if they changed partners in the last 3 months. I imagine it is the same for women.

LethalSmack,

Unfortunately it applies to gay men only. Our straight counterparts can switch up partners as much as they want.

Well, it’d apply to bisexual men who’ve had male partners as well.

I should also point out it doesn’t have to be new partners. Just if you’ve had more than one partner you can’t donate even if it’s an exclusive polygamous relationship.

QTpi,

In the US, it is an Individual Donor Assessment and applies to everyone. Everyone gets the same question tree, regardless of sexual orientation. If you have had a new partner in the last 3 months or have multiple partners that doesn’t defer you, it sends you to the next tier of question: have you engaged in anal sex. Yes to anal with a new partner or multiple partners is the deferral. If you haven’t had a new partner or multiple partners in the last 3 months, you will not be asked about anal sex. Canada went live with their individual donor assessment a year before the US and has noted a slight drop in donations in straight donors because they are now being deferred for high risk activity when they were previously missed.

Prep is listed under a medication deferral. First responders that take prep for protection from workplace exposure are deferred as well.

(I’m a blood banker)

LethalSmack,

I see what you’re saying but they are specifically worried about anal sex. You’re welcome to switch up partners as much as you want as long as anal sex isn’t involved, which is much more likely and much easier for the heterosexual community.

Same goes with prep. I’m sure that there are circumstances that would have individuals taking it that are not related to their sexual orientation.

I’m just pointing out that despite the major improvement it still excludes gay men quite thoroughly from donating blood.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Or paid for sex

zaphod,

Not really how this works. Tests take time and they don’t test immediately, also they do pool tests, so multiple samples are mixed and tested. So even if they’d find something they couldn’t tell you right there, and then again even if they could they would tell you it would be handled so that nobody else could notice.

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