A second teacher at a high school in Missouri was put on leave after administrators discovered her OnlyFans side hustle.
Megan Gaither, 31, said during an interview with the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that she was placed on leave from her English teaching and varsity cheerleading coach position on Oct. 27 after district officials found out about her account on the OnlyFans platform.
They get it all wrong. In an increasingly online society, this is a nice way to keep the parent-teacher conferences interesting.
But seriously, I don’t get the problem with sex work. It’s not like that’s in any way shape or form relevant for her teaching capabilities. Sex does not become immoral just because you point a camera at it and all these people had to have sex to have children in the first place. Where’s the outrage about children living with their parents? These monsters have sex with each other! Some even while the children are at home!
The only way I can see this becoming a problem is if the kids can’t focus in her classes because they know she has an OnlyFans account. But kids have imagined fucking their teachers since I am sure teachers have existed, so it would just be an extension of that and she probably would have strategies to deal with it.
Well I personally think the real issue here is teachers graduating with too much debt and the fact that most teachers are forced to have some kind of second job in order to pay their debt, bills, & rent \ mortgage.
Stop trying to address the root cause of thie actual issue and humanizing these people. You need to act performativly OUTRAGED and have a moral panic fueled by your repressed sexuality!!1!
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Meanwhile, business continues as normal in religious schools where hundreds of thousands of American children learn under actual pedophiles. That, however, is ok because getting fondled or raped by a priest has an association with the magic sky guy.
I agree with you and teachers have been long underpaid, but also I think this is symptomatic of the middle-class squeeze that has been in play for a long time. The wealth consolidation, out of control costs for higher education, and inflation is strangling the middle class and the poor, IMO starting to strangle the economy, and stories like this are the blood squeezing out around the fingers as the grip continues to tighten.
It should be legal, but should not be glamorized. If you don’t understand the latter half, it’s because you don’t know sex workers and probably base your idea of the profession around a few popular outliers.
The vast majority of sex workers hate their jobs and encourage everyone to steer clear of the profession.
I think you misunderstood. There certainly are problems with sex work. Woman being forced into it and living under terrible conditions for example is a big problem with the industry. But this post is about the outrage of other people. What I certainly don’t get is the problem people see in others doing sex work voluntarily. There is nothing morally wrong with having an OnlyFans account or doing any other type of sex work if you chose too. It is just as valid a choice as any other type of work. We should just make sure the conditions aren’t abusive.
The teaching community (as an institution)has some pretty specific thoughts on how to maintain the parent/student relationship and it involves maintaining some kind of curated image to their students.
One time, when I was maybe 25, I saw a gaggle of good looking women at a pub about the same age as me, and then they came over and asked how I had liked the conference. “conference?”
There had been a teacher conference and a large group went for drinks later and assumed I was also a teacher. I lied and joined the group.
We ended up going to a nightclub later, and one teacher saw that a few of their students had managed to get into the club, and they LOST IT. Not upset at the kids, but they were captured by abstract horror at the thought of their student seeing THEM at the club.
I pushed on it a little bit, like “shouldn’t they be the ones worried about seeing you?”
And like, the whole group thought I had lost my mind. If COURSE the students couldn’t see us there, how would they ever respect us if they understood us as humans with our own lives? The teacher/student relationship would evaporate. Anarchy. The response to my question was immediate and unanimous.
So… I gotta say… I don’t really get it… But there is a culture and mindset within the teaching community that is extremely foreign to me. And, based on my personal experience, I suspect that suspending OF teachers is probably the popular response within the greater teaching community as a whole. I’d be REALLY curious if there is any data that disproves my hypothesis.
I think the idea is that a lot of teachers feel they cannot maintain a proper teacher-student relationship unless the student see them as some sort of ultimate authority on something, and seeing them as humans might put cracks in that. I don’t agree with them since most of the teachers I loved the most in school were the ones I could empathize with, but it was certainly the way a lot of my teachers seemed to believe when I was in school.
I agree. I got the impression it was something they all were taught while getting their education degrees. It reeks of policy developed on ancient and flawed pseudo-psychology
That being said, I know dealing with kids is hard. I can well remember how I thought every parent was stupid and that parenting was easy before I had kids.
I can’t say I have a better way, just that I’m suspicious ofthe current mentality.
The mindset gets embedded into teachers pretty early in their careers. I met my partner in college and was with her while she was a middle school teacher for years so I got the to see this develop in realtime. Education students need to have absolutely flawless records in order to even be eligible for hire. If they have so much as a drunk and disorderly charge on their record then they are essentially barred from teaching because the background checks are so stringent.
It largely depends on the age of students that’s in question, but you also have to remember that teachers are always at the mercy of the parents. They need to deal with a diverse range of religious, political, and educational backgrounds and try to maintain neutrality. Administration will almost always bend to a parent complaint - it’s largely just the way our education system is structured in the US.
So my wife teaches at a college / trade school, and has worked there for about 5 years. Previously she was a field engineer with a lot of experience working with the trades. She prefers to be “one of the boys” but can also play the professional role.
So at first she figured “well we are all adults here” and treated everyone as peers who were there to learn. It didn’t take long for her to be frustrated and burned out. She told me it’s too hard emotionally to think of the students as people, much like how livestock cannot be pets (we have a farm, lol).
There’s an endless stream of them and some are good, some are bad, some don’t try and some give it their best but don’t have what it takes. Some ask her if she’s on Tinder or have an Onlyfans… Ick. You can’t get them all through the course and you can’t develop relationships with them or their stress and emotions will rub off on you.
So she started putting up this firm barrier where she is the teacher and they are the students. Changed her style of dress from business casual to “unapproachable career woman”, puts on that teacher attitude, and is enjoying her life a lot more.
However it results in that odd behaviour mentioned above. If we go out to a casual pub to eat pub food and drink beer, when one of her students walks in the door she’s practically hiding under the table. “They can’t see me like this! I don’t have my makeup on, I’m wearing jeans, I’m drinking beer from a can! They have to think of me as a teacher, not an ordinary person!”
I had a science teacher in highschool that I happened to bump into at a Magadog show. Turns out he was friends with the band. I smoked a joint with him that night and nothing was different on Monday morning.
We ended up going to a nightclub later, and one teacher saw that a few of their students had managed to get into the club, and they LOST IT. Not upset at the kids, but they were captured by abstract horror at the thought of their student seeing THEM at the club.
In highschool, I worked at Sam’s Club as a cashier (one of those bulk-sales places with memberships, like Costco.)
Just before school started, I had teachers come through stocking up on candy. 2-3 of them. They started acting squarely because how dare teachers shop for school supplies.
It was pretty funny, though. They had a giant flatbed filled with candy, among some other things.
There is an option, at least for teachers. If they keep the loans with the original provider then they do have the option in 10 years to qualify for teacher forgiveness. The entire loan is forgiven once you qualify. So work with the loan company to come up with the smallest monthly payment possible and wait it out. Covid no payments for 3 years all counted as qualifying months towards this as well. I know this because my wife is a teacher and just started paying last month again, but only have 3 more payments until this is all over with! I can’t tell you how much less stress I’ll have once 90k is wiped…
Best to mention that PSLF has like a 3% forgiveness rate, and half of Congress is constantly trying to undermine it. If you make the minimum payments for 10 years and then your PSLF fails, you will easily end up owing much more than you initially borrowed due to interest.
Source: Partner is eligible for PSLF, has been making payments since 2014 and owes a lot more than initially borrowed.
Numbers as of 2021, only 2.2% of borrowers had their loans forgiven. Of that 2.2%, only 32 people (not percent, but people) had their loans forgiven after making 20 years of payments using the IDR plan.
My partner borrowed about 50k for their bachelor and masters degrees, currently owes ~59k. They have never missed a payment, or had a late payment, and they graduated with a Master’s in Biology in 2013
The real unfortunate thing is that she’s lucky in that she’s attractive and willing to do this. There are a lot of teachers who are in the same financial situation but don’t have that as an option.
Whatever she does or any teacher do after work is non of any body’s problems. If any teacher wants to show their bodies on the web… Let it be. I don’t see any issues with it. We have many problems around the world and out of nowhere this is an issue???
I dunno man, I think that the fact she teaches high school kids specifically, who by now all know about it, means that she has no hope of being an effective teacher at this point. It’s a massive distraction, as unfair as that is.
She had to have known this was a possibility when she decided to start an onlyfans - there’s almost nowhere in the country where you won’t get fired as a teacher for that, progressive or conservative states alike. Society just isn’t there yet.
I understand what you’re saying but these are high school kids. Don’t you think it would be at least weird if people were passing around explicit photos of a teacher? Or printing them out and taping them to walls? I honestly don’t know how I’d feel about that if it were my kids’ teacher. Regardless teachers should be paid enough that they shouldn’t be forced to work any kind of second job.
I think you’re rehashing past arguments and not reading what I wrote because I did say that I don’t know how I’d feel if this were to happen to one of my children’s teachers. The only consistent position I’ve taken in these threads is that teachers should not be forced to take second jobs to pay their student loan debt, bills, and rent or mortgage.
For someone in that position, it is a problem, though. If students get around to seeing their teacher naked or engaged in sexual acts, that becomes an issue. If it were 100% guaranteeable that that couldn’t happen, then you’d be right, but with it on the internet, that’s just not ever going to be a foolproof thing.
Because the millions of other people (this isn’t a gender thing) aren’t responsible for those minors. It’s also not just finding “naked people on the internet”. Onlyfans’ whole objective is to profit off of parasocial relationships. Models are directly engaging with their customers, and in a situation where a teacher ends up willingly or otherwise selling sex media to their student, obvious problems arise.
I suppose I’m not sure what part of “teacher sells nudes and/or sex videos to student(s)”, purposefully or not, isn’t obviously problematic, but in general, the potential variations of issues are inexhaustible: determining whether the teacher is knowingly engaging their students, managing student behavior around the teacher, upholding the teacher’s authority with their students once the story is known, etc etc etc. There is no putting a lid on that sort of situation.
Ooo shit. She was offering free weekends for hee students? She was distributing promotional material to her students? She was telling them to sub to her OF?? Or are you reaching?.. its equally laughable that you believe students even knowing about this would degrade them into wild animals that no human could constrain.
It’s a problem whether the teacher is actively engaging students in that way or not. And you’re the one that demanded hypothetical specifics. Did you do that just to shit on them for being hypothetical? Or are you gonna discuss this in good faith?
And OF shouldn’t be allowing minors to access content in their site, but things aren’t perfect, and horny teens are going to be horny teens. This isn’t about who’s “responsible”, it’s about having realistic expectations.
Apart from the general disruption in the teacher-student relationship, it opens up a whole quagmire of how aware the teacher is of a student’s engagement with their content. Especially once the work is known of, it’s essentially a guarantee that at some point the teacher will be receiving money from a student for their content, which is clearly unacceptable.
I can’t see a way she could have both gigs without the extreme likelihood, near certainty, of being found by a student. If she completely stopped the OF work, I could see a potential argument for her to keep her teaching position, but I also don’t expect the school would be interested in dealing with the inevitable disruptions from students behaving inappropriately around her, parents being hysterical about it, or whatever other problems could pop up.
But if things worked like they should any sort of harassment of this teacher should be dealt with just like it would be without knowing she has an OF account. Having an account like OF doesn’t somehow put the responsibility of not being a victim of harassment on her.
Having the OF account isn’t just any old characteristic here. It’s the crux of it all. The likelihood of a student buying content from the teacher is not particularly low, and that’s just not an acceptable situation from someone in that position.
I’m not saying it’s her responsibility or anyone else’s to avoid being harassed, but it’s an inevitable issue among many that would be piling up atop the already unacceptable scenario given above, all adding pressure in favor of the school understandably deciding to just cut ties.
To play devils advocate, I’m guessing only like the top 5% or more can actually make a living off of OF work, so chances are that a good share of the content people are consuming is going to be someones co-worker/boss/HR rep/etc. Who decides who is and who isn’t allowed to have an OF account? It seems perfectly fine for all these kids/parents/co-workers to have an account to view creators, but it’s the problem of the content creators if these same people can’t treat them like humans after viewing content they sought out.
If she was giving out discount codes, or free memberships to co-workers or students that would be one thing, but to regulate something that harms no one that a teacher does in their off hours to get by because we can’t pay teachers seems like a violation of their rights.
NO! Teachers are supposed to be poors and any attempt to not be poors must be exterminated with extreme prejudice, otherwise children will get a proper education and grow up to be harder to exploit and control… Get it?
Speculation about Gaither’s involvement on the platform began in mid-October when she was seen in a video posted on Coppage’s account. While the video didn’t include Gaither’s face, it was recorded at a party, and she was seen in a public picture wearing the same costume that was worn in the video posted on OnlyFans, according to the report.
So are we not going to call into question the “professionalism” of whoever found this video? Or did someone just accidentally make their way to onlyfans and pay to access her content. 🙄
Don’t imagine they knew who it was before paying for it, seeing as the only way to see who it was is to pay for it first. To be fair I’d be surprised and uncomfortable if I knew my kid had a teacher who they could find videos of her spread eagle naked whenever they wanted. If the sexes were reversed and it was a male porn star who was teaching children there would be a national uproar. I don’t have anything against sex work but some jobs just don’t really mesh together too well, this is one such situation. The obvious solution is just to pay our fucking teachers more so they don’t have to get second jobs to live but people would rather just yell at her like she’s doing this for shits and giggles because that’s easier than addressing the root problem.
You say that like if one kid from school can do it then it’s an epidemic. The article states the pictures never showed her face. You are a pearl clutcher, nothing more
I’m a millenial lifelong socialist atheist with gay/trans parents but go off I guess. If you actually read my comment you’d notice that I have nothing against her and instead said she should be paid more so she wouldn’t have to go on only fans.
Ridiculous that we “cant find” the money to pay the people educating the next generation more than this women is/will be making this year from posting photos and videos of herself online. Reveals a number of priorities that are out of line.
Yeah agree entirely. And we’ll pay it for as the years go on. I really don’t understand how investing in the future of our country is somehow a partisanship issue. I guess republicans just love inflicting misery more than their so called “patriotism”.
But if teachers were paid well, more talented people might decide to become teachers, and then children would receive better educations and possibly start to question why our society is structured the way it is. Much better to solve the problem at its root and keep everyone ignorant.
That’s not really a consideration to the state governments deciding on how and why to keep teachers pay low. A version of that is at play in circulum design, but not really in pay.
It’s mostly a mix of:
Hatred of public schools
Their kids go to private, or well funded public districts
Poor resource management within state budget
Desire to weaken public education system overall, to advance vouchers, charters, etc.
Power. Getting off on their raw exercise or power.
The people who designed the system decades ago might have had the more nuanced, if still evil, approach that you outlined, but not now. The current crop are a lot stupider and their conception of cause and effect is a simplistic version of 1-1=0.
Or the war between the states. Doesn’t really matter, honestly. Anyone who uses an alternate name for it pretty much tells you that their sympathies lie with the confederacy.
It’s not a problem with onlyfans in particular but teaching is difficult and critically important work. It’s a problem that teachers are not paid enough and have to look for side hustles (of any sort).
I feel like I missed out on seminal moment in my childhood because all my teachers were like 50 years old. Where was my hot English teacher? All I got was an old bat who hated children and didn’t bother to hide it.
It’s hard to spend years getting a master’s degree and then to go work on a teacher’s salary. But then to be a professor, it’s another 6-8 years above and beyond a master’s to get a PhD (during which you’re making jack shit and aren’t allowed to work off campus). On top of that, higher ed is apparently ridiculously competitive and an insane amount of thankless long hours for a slightly higher shit salary than high school teachers. The whole culture around and within education needs changing. A lot of changing. It’s so disappointing.
Thats what they all say “I did it because my (insert job), had very low income, I had also a loan to pay back” and then they keep posting content!
I don’t know about you guys, but its sounds and feels weird, to know that a teacher has onlyfans. In the end if she wanted, she could quit from school, and continue with her only fans, but guess what? is not enough and naughty!
Take the only fans out of the equation. I personally know a lot of educators who work two jobs during the year. Bottom line teachers and aides do not make enough money.
Pure speculation here, but I feel like it’s an American thing. With the minimum wage over there being stupid low, coupled with “grind-set culture”, the young generation is doing everything it can to make money to meet their fame-obssessed ideals. The effort to reduce sex-worker stigma probably helps a lot too.
“Being rich” is idealised by Americans, their culture is baked in it. The Kardashians, every YouTuber flaunting their exhaustive fortunes, people showing off wads of cash on Snapchat/Instagram. The whole bit about having an android phone being a turn off, which seems to be almost entirely isolated to Americans. If I had to guess, I’d say it stems from African Americans requiring money to “escape the hood”, and that culture permeating to other ethnicities (likely via music). If my theory is correct, then it would follow that people might go to greater levels to attain wealth in a culture that idealises it so heavily. Did that explain my viewpoint?
I’m not going to write a paper because it’s 0100 my time and I mean this politely. You are wrong. What you’re seeing is the veneer presented to the world by Hollywood and Social Media. American youth are actually turning their backs on traditional status symbols like cars.
The success of this veneer is indicative of my point. You can’t hand wave social media away, this upcoming generation is deeply involved in it. The success of these trends means they’re being actively consumed. There are loads of studies suggesting youth develop mental health disorders as a direct result of seeing (often financial) success amongst peers on social media. I did posit that my point was fairly speculative, but at least I cited commonplace social trends bolstering my point. You’ve just said “no, not true”.
Yeah sorry about that it really was one in the morning. So I wasn’t going to write much more than that. You’re not wrong that Social Media can be damaging to mental health in kids more vulnerable to peer pressure. But once kids are at the age where they’re turning into adults we’re seeing far less consumption of fashion and luxuries. That is a combination of the cost of living crisis and some x factor we haven’t figured out yet. But they are driving less, drinking less, having less sex, buying less fashion, less jewelry, less services, etc.
Every economic indicator is a drop in demand. And studies like the iPhone/Android one forgo looking at any actual cause, leaving people to believe whatever they want. Like the fact that Apple restricts the features available in a chat with non Apple devices. So now the entire Internet is blaming a subset of teenagers for Apple’s anti competitive behavior.
Cost of living troubles aren’t unique to America, and yet 45% of OnlyFans content creators are American. There’s something else at play, and I’d argue it’s cultural.
Yeah possibly. Although rents over there aren’t any worse than here in Sydney Australia, or Auckland NZ, and yet 45% of onlyfans content creators are American.
I keep wondering when the war on teachers is going to spread to my district. Given how many Republican “parent choice” signs I see up I don’t think I have long. Really would have liked my kids to go to a functional school.
I don’t get your point other than snark. Frankly I don’t think you get it. When some Karen causes issues it hurts everyone. It means teachers quit, it means less go in the field, it means that parent-teacher relationships are more sour.
Yes I don’t care if a teacher does porn and me not caring matters as much as the fuckface who decided to care about this! We have for some freaken reason decided that whomever gets offended is the one who makes the rules as long as they are louder than the ones not offended.
No, that the admins “discovered” her account as part of some official investigation, rather than subbing avidly before ratting her out from their own unprocessed self-loathing (or getting caught perving, who knows).
edit: I’m not even gonna begin to unpack the sociological content of “cheerleader coach” and “sexualized teacher”.
Do you have any idea how many videos I had to watch until I discovered something that I found offensive, it’s disgusting. Only fans needs a better search engine.
I always just happened to be picking my nose with my middle finger and looking directly at them. Try me, cousin. Me & Satan are like >this<, so who’s on your team?
I had a home ec teacher that was found out to do playboy spreads. As a young teenager I did not care. My parents did not care(they were hippies). Who cared the most were dumbass older teenage boys for some reason writing her porn name on the chalkboard before she came in one day. It was like they were angry at her for turning them on. That’s when I realized men’s sex education and support for processing complex thought and feelings around relationships and sex is abysmal.
Nah, there are definitely correlation and causation in a lot of cases but there are definitely also kids who are just born evil, as if they’re infuriated at the world for their having been born.
They’re a rare breed but far too dangerous to write off when discussing things that affect the public.
Were you a young teenage girl? Because you seem to completely lack understanding of teenage boys’ psychology. There’s absolutely no reason they would be angry at her for making them horny. That makes no sense at all.
I would agree with your other replier on this. Furthering that, I would say this is the teenage boys’ attempt to challenge authority by undermining her authority with her open sexuality as a tool. They found a leverage to have power over her. And they’re going to use it to the full extent. They’re at a point in time of their growth where they find their social hierarchy. Almost every male mammal engages in this. They pick fights and they learn where they stand by winning and losing. And they want to get as high as possible. This explains the anger that you pointed out, because challenging authority and fighting is inherently similar emotion to anger.
Because you seem to completely lack understanding of teenage boys’ psychology. There’s absolutely no reason they would be angry at her for making them horny. That makes no sense at all.
Ah. I see you are one of those types of bigots.
As you surely didn’t forget a whole array of other non binary genders some of which actually get beaten to death for ‘turning straight men on.’
Also some cultures will stone women for ‘turning men on enough to rape them’. That has nothing to do with ‘challenging authority’ in fact it’s gross you even compare it to that. It’s all about attacking vulnerable.
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. Please let the adults who are educated continue discussing these topics. Literally everything you just said was wrong.
You still lack the ability to address the content. You’re just spewing out things you’re familiar with. You’re not actually engaging in any discussion.
No one should rape anyone. I don’t see how this is relevant to this discussion.
Humans are social creatures. We are affected direct and indirectly by other people whether you like it or not (unless you want to become a hikikomori).
The fact that other people give a shit about about someone making porn in their free time, should make you give a shit. This is irrelevant to whether you think they should give a shit or not. Your lack of ability to give a shit signals your lack of foresight into how this affects your life as well as lack of social skills. If she wants to be an OF model, and therefore chooses to do OF content, that’s fine. If she wants to be a teacher and thinks she can do OF without consequence, she’s stupid.
L take and completely wrong. Fuck people for not only judging for something harmless, but also for directly impacting her life because of it when she didn’t impact anyone else’s.
What part am I wrong about? Her OF account has clearly affected her job as a teacher. The evidence of what I said is right there. You’re in denial of facts of what has already occurred. If she didn’t see this coming, she’s stupid.
I don’t care if you think people shouldn’t be judgmental. You’re being judgement of me right now. And I am of you right now. People always are, always have been and always will. That’s how humans work. Your denial or calling it out as bad is irrelevant in your ability to plan for the future.
Edit: Let me be clear. I am not defending the judgmental. I am pointing out the lack of social understanding.
I did not victim blame. I wish logic and/or discrete mathematics is a requirement education in the world. Then we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
I’m not trying to control her sexuality. I, in fact, said it’s fine if she wants to do OF. So you have read me wrong. I pointed out people’s inability to predict the future.
You have judged me for judging on things I didn’t say. You smell of hypocrisy.
Being a social creature doesn’t mean you get veto power over how others live their lives. Your justification thus falls flat as does your victim blaming argument.
When you were little, did you parents teach you to look both ways before crossing the street? Even when you’re at a stop sign or at a green light? Probably, since you’re still alive. Why did they do that? You’d be in the right. If a car hit you, you’d be the victim, 100%. But you do that anyway because being right or being the victim is completely irrelevant. It’s not about who gets the blame. It’s about what gives you the best outcome. You looking both ways before crossing the street has the best outcome for you. It doesn’t matter if you’re right if you’re fucking dead.
If she wanted the best outcome of staying as a teacher, she shouldn’t have done OF. This should be a very easy deductive logic people should be able to make given what is the current society.
This is not victim blaming. I lean quite far left, and this is one of the most insanely annoying thing I find about the left. Far too many only look about who’s the victim and whose to blame. That shit is fucking stupidest outlook on life. It’s a good goal to attain, a world without problem causing things. But unless utopia happens, you need to learn to figure out how the world works. Failure to do that simply means you’re stupid. You might be a victim, but you’re still stupid.
Your analogy is false. This is victim blaming and a gross violation of privacy. On your off time you are free to do what you want your employer is not paying you for that time.
Probably not a popular take but I can at least understand it from the perspective of it just being easier to put her on paid leave than to play whackamole punishing every kid who starts bullying her or disrespecting her because stupid teenagers.
It’s the dumbfuck no tolerance logic that inadvertently encourages kids to respond to being bullied by pulling a knife since they gettin’ punished either way for being in a fight, but it does make the twisted kind of sense you can expect from admins who hate nothing more than doing their jobs instead of sitting at their desk playing minesweeper all day.
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