kcarruthers, (edited )
@kcarruthers@mastodon.social avatar

CEOs are hugely expensive. Why not automate them?
If a single role is as expensive as thousands of workers, it is surely the prime candidate for robot-induced redundancy.

https://www.newstatesman.com/business/companies/2023/05/ceos-salaries-expensive-automate-robots

https://archive.is/FDPly

bignose, (edited )
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Seriously, I want every journalist to ask this question from the New Statesman:
> CEOs are hugely expensive. Why not automate them?

To CEOs, to corporate boards, to government lawmakers. To anyone who advocates bringing bullshit "AI" automation into an existing business.

I predict that any justification that works for "oh we can't automate CEOs", will work even better for the actual workers. Press them until that is crystal clear to your audience.

And any remaining "justifications", I further predict will be flawed nonsense that justify nothing.

hat tip: @kcarruthers

peterrenshaw,
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@bignose @kcarruthers My thoughts for a while is “sack & outsource management”. Never catches in though.

vwbusguy,
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@peterrenshaw @bignose @kcarruthers I think that's called a VC takeover.

peterrenshaw,
@peterrenshaw@ioc.exchange avatar

@kcarruthers @vwbusguy @bignose having worked in enough startups, VCs usual replace management with more team players in suits.

failedLyndonLaRouchite,

@bignose @kcarruthers

I think @DeanBaker13 recently listed the salaries for CEOs of car companies in the US and Europe
and the American CEOs, whose companies are on avg no better or worse, are paid a LOT more

DeanBaker13,
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@failedLyndonLaRouchite @bignose @kcarruthers Yes, U.S. auto company CEOs get four times the pay as their European counterparts and five times the pay of their Japanese counterparts. Pretty hard to justify.

RamenCatholic,

Petition to replace all C-level employees with a set of D&D die

@bignose @kcarruthers

TechyDad,
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@kcarruthers I was saying similar things when it came to the writers and actors strikes. If anyone in that industry could be replaced by AI, it's the studio heads.

Lapizistik,
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@kcarruthers And it would be much easier to automate! Or do you think anyone could distinguish whether the powerpoints about “strategy” were created by an MBA or an AI?

kcarruthers,
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  • glasspusher,
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    @kcarruthers @Lapizistik I’d watch a steel cage match between those two on pay paper view (at a friends house, but I’d bring snacks)

    enigma,
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    @kcarruthers
    And the biggest advantage? CEO Robots wouldnot fire workers for stock exchange only. Not the way their human CEO does.😎

    SNerd,
    @SNerd@lor.sh avatar

    @kcarruthers
    They’re having trouble making AI illogically greedy

    nosmaharba,
    @nosmaharba@mastodon.world avatar

    @kcarruthers short answer: Boards like a bleeder between them and the poors

    raymierussell,
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    @kcarruthers
    Cliche Alert

    Turkeys don't vote for Christmas

    BoredomFestival,
    @BoredomFestival@sfba.social avatar

    @kcarruthers is there a non-paywall link?

    paul_ipv6,

    @kcarruthers

    surely with as much actual time as most CEOs spend on useful work, CEOaS (CEO as a service), shared across multiple companies, would be a better use of their "valuable" time and company money. ;)

    artemesia,
    @artemesia@techhub.social avatar

    @kcarruthers

    > CEOs are hugely expensive. Why not automate them?

    Judging from what I've seen of CEOs, this would result in the creation of skynet.

    tb,
    @tb@tldr.nettime.org avatar

    @kcarruthers @lednabwm It's hard to imagine that CEAIs (Chief Executive AIs) could be more pathologically destructive than CEOs.

    lednabwm,

    @kcarruthers

    I've been saying this for at least 30 years; and, the same for all executive management and BODs.

    kickstink,
    @kickstink@mas.to avatar

    @kcarruthers The debate about public/private ownership is more relevant than ever. The question is not “should jobs be automated?” because private business WILL automate as much as they can. The question is “when jobs are automated, what happens?” Production becomes very cheap, right? So now the concept of “work” (which is not the purpose of life) has been turned upside down, how does society take advantage of this to improve everyone’s lives? That’s what the debate should be.

    rythur,
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    @kcarruthers

    Have you people actually met executives? I work with many, and some could have been automated in the 90's. As others have said, this is all about power and structure maintenance, not payment. The illusion is up. Why do you think their compensation has become even more egregious? The illusion. Is up.

    It's the BOTTOM line that has applied. Its the other that applies. They ain't going anywhere.

    Csosorchid,

    @kcarruthers A decesion maker with an incomplete understanding of the business,finances and industry a perfect fit for ChatGPT.

    Abazigal,
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    @kcarruthers And what makes you think an AI boss would be any better than a human one? I imagine they might be even more ruthless when it comes to cuts and layoffs.

    simon_lucy,
    @simon_lucy@mastodon.social avatar

    @kcarruthers

    Well we already have CEOs that one morning have the notion that all the people doing the actual work are expendable, especially when the alternative is the CEO's own job.

    If AI as we have it really was a thing then it's bound to suffer from bouts of existential violence.

    chrisbloom,

    @kcarruthers
    I've often thought this would be a terrific idea.
    I worked as a scientific professional in the public service & after seeing how well everything worked after the dept boss went on extended leave, most of us questioned why he bothered to come back.
    His bosses seemed to agree. He was "promoted sideways" & never replaced. Everything worked smoothly.
    For many CEOs, I doubt you'd need a robot replacement; a cardboard cutout would probably do just as well & be much cheaper!

    ecstaticcling,
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    @kcarruthers Would an AI CEO be more inhuman than current CEOs? Is that possible?

    Annaspanner,
    @Annaspanner@bookstodon.com avatar

    @kcarruthers
    I CANT EVEN
    I’m a school teacher on £28k and very resentful reading this! Surfing and reading. Automating execs cannot happen fast enough.

    Of course, my job will be automated eventually too and teachers will just be childminders.

    Xergg,

    @kcarruthers Imagine how much money the share holders could save by putting someone that doesn't even need to be paid in charge. love the idea.

    fadersolo,

    @kcarruthers Kinda depends on what data we train them on. Like, how do AI CEOs respond when their employees want to form a union?

    jlroberson,
    @jlroberson@mastodon.social avatar

    @kcarruthers Said this many times: executives are more easily replaced by AI than anything

    RuthODay,
    @RuthODay@chaosfem.tw avatar

    @kcarruthers

    After the coding is developed you could offer “upgrades” such as the “pump and dump” plug-in. It would automatically send press releases to promote the company stock with fluff announcements then automatically sell CEO stock options when the share price peaks (but before the market realizes that no value had been added to the company).

    Alephwyr,
    @Alephwyr@chitter.xyz avatar

    @kcarruthers This was sort of the idea behind DAOs

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