although I guess it's like that quote about how techies are into pen & paper RPGs because of the fantasy of having a clearly explained quest that they can actually complete
the big draw of factorio is not that it's a giant spaghetti pile of technical debt of your own making... it's that you can spend an hour of intense work FIXING that technical debt. that's the unrealistic fantasy this game is providing
game: this factory is technical debt in visual form. every conveyor belt is placed in such a way that made sense hours ago but now is nothing but a blight on your dreams
@whitequark@foone I've thought the best thing about Space Engineers is that everything is half broken and poorly documented and the UI is clumsy, but you can still make things work somehow, which seems like a pretty decent simulation of engineering.
bad idea:
I'm gonna get some other devops and we're gonna play a longform factorio multiplayer game together.
we're going to have a jira, proper change management, daily standups, multipart epics to track our long-term deliverables, and set up pagerduty so that we can be alerted when there's a biter attack that needs immediate attention.
@ticktok@buttplugio I have bad news about what @calico is making: "femboy factory", an h-game with the initial premise of "what if factorio but the resources you're processing are femboys?"
@ljrk@foone@ticktok@calico The more I think about this the more it seems like, depending on exactly how lewd the rendering of each... "resource processor" is, you're creating a combination factory game and gooning visualizer?
Like, two jizz covered birds with one jizz covered stone, I guess.
@buttplugio@foone@ticktok@calico Well, I guess just as with the original, you could be rather creative in what you build in this spin-off. There were suggestions about inserters being "raw men" (my brain wants to insert a pun about ramen here) and about putting the femboys to work at a femboy hooter.
Overall, it's probably mostly just feminization stuff and I'm all there for it.
anyway I can see how this game was inspired by modding minecraft, because that's the only environment I've ever coded in where my source code was at risk of being lost because it got exploded
I've now discovered there's a factorio mod to let you hook it up to pagerduty so that you really can get alerts sent to your on-call team when things break:
the screenshot on their github (showing it sending stats to datadog) leaks that they're playing with the Space Exploration mod, which makes sense.
That mod isn't a game, it's a part-time job
@foone RFC: play Satisfactory instead. It’s prettier, has a lot of built-in humor about risking life and limb for a soulless megacorp, has a lot more potential for both aesthetic and functional architecture choices, and the devs seem way cooler than Kovarex.
@foone
Yeah developers, create the most awfully masochistic but ineffectual configuration management and change control systems and they are wiling to argue to the death with actual trained and experienced Defence/Aerospace grade Configuration Manager who are telling them they going overboard. Yeah, you've done an ITIL course, nah you have no clues.
@foone funnily enough, i vastly prefer Satisfactory because none of its hostile aliens attack your structures (just you, when you go exploring), so there's no entropy acting on your setup, just your own ability to plan and execute. killing roaches to keep them off your stuff feels too much like "meetings" to me, so I prefer the builder games that elide that.
@slott56@foone As a full 3D world in first person, it's quite a different experience, but as an old Doom + Myst guy (and more recently a No Man's Sky guy) that's also what endeared me to it.
@foone I did a talk on DevOps in Video Games and Factorio was the main subject, along with Kerbal. The true DevOps of Factorio - there are entire communities who will have arguments over how to best layout a factory, single purpose city blocks (microservices) or raw input to final product chains (monoliths)
@foone most developers know software, and actually computers in general, is bad, but are still in the profession. I think it attracts a certain kind of masochist.
@secretsquirrel oh no, you never beat Factorio. Launching a rocket is only the beginning. (He says, as he clears another few thousand tiles of alien life to build a second 1200 science per minute outpost)
@womble@secretsquirrel yeah. it's like minecraft: you don't BEAT it just because you reached the ending, you just challenge yourself to do more and/or you install mods to make it weirder and harder
@zaratustra that's the trick: you're supposed to realize your previous factory was an abomination in the eyes of man and god, and vow to make your next factory better, well designed from the start.
then repeat this loop until the game ends and/or you get tired of playing it.
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