loleg,
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Did you know? 🎙️🦤 The second web browser in history, and apparently the first one designed to be multiplatform, was coded by Nicola Pellow – a crucial step in making the web accessible to a wider audience at the time, and having a lasting impact on the development of the https://nowebwithoutwomen.com/tory https://nowebwithoutwomen.com/

peter,
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@loleg Very cool website!

loleg,
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@peter ..chock full of very cool stories! :blobcatwavereverse:

urlyman,
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@loleg @peter

It is a cool website, but it’s also one that, without JavaScript, promises much but doesn’t work at all, which links to its authors’ studio website that loads precisely nothing without JavaScript.

Ironically, given the context of the story above, this is antithetical to how the web platform is supposed to work https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/111844078858504140

peter,
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@urlyman @loleg I agree, progressively enhancing it would have been low hanging fruit, especially now that we have the details element …

Oleg already refined my statement, which, as it turns out, was a bit imprecise 😅 So, what I find cool about it is:
• Having all these cool stories in one place
• How it provokes questions with the striked through keywords
• The graphic design
• That each woman’s story can be shared with an image
• That all stories have a source

urlyman,
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@peter @loleg very much agree. Which is why I was keen to acknowledge that it is a cool website.

I’m increasingly just an old git railing ;)

https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/112245922680389941

loleg,
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@urlyman @peter it's not great for Accessibility or SEO, on top of what you said - and I would like to see an downloadable version for mashups and more! With all the boosts my post has gotten, I wonder if anyone here is connected to the site owners or know something about the project?

urlyman,
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@loleg yes, the triple h2 is a very odd authoring choice.

(The page remains a very lovely thought piece.)

@peter

urlyman,
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@loleg @peter The page weight is 41 MB.

I note that Nicola’s image is a 1500px square jpg that’s 2.3 MB to download: https://nowebwithoutwomen.com/images/Nicola_Pellow.jpg. (URL intentionally disabled by me to prevent request.)

Given the lowfi grainy aesthetic, which I really like, it could have been saved as a 10% quality 1000px wide JPEG with no discernible loss of aesthetic, at about 120 KB.

So, with 19 such images, about a 95% saving on page weight overall, more with loading="lazy"

peter,
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@urlyman @loleg I think it's fine to not judge too harshly: we don't know anything about the context this was created in. Maybe it was a hackday, maybe it was an intern's first project, maybe someone wanted to experiment with a new tool, etc.

It could be massively improved, yes, but it looks like someone's project of the heart and I'm happy it exists 🙃

NatureMC,
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@peter You could ask the project's design studio directly: https://selmandesign.com/ @urlyman @loleg

peter,
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@NatureMC Certainly, but to me it's not as important to understand how •exactly• the website came to be, but to be open to the idea that there might have been constraints we haven’t considered looking in from the outside. I trust they did their best given the constraints 😀

@urlyman @loleg

NatureMC,
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