GottaLaff,
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👇🏼Via @atrupar

It's probably best not to engage with dead-enders who'd rather watch society burn than be adults & vote for , or at least try to persuade rather than scold. But it's so damn frustrating they haven't already figured out at this late date that is an existential threat.

1nd33d,
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@GottaLaff @atrupar Quite frankly this entire conflict situation feels like 2016 again. Instigated by (probably) Russian propaganda to create splits in the Biden support where possible.

GottaLaff,
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@1nd33d We were warned. They never stopped.

gooba42,
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@GottaLaff @atrupar I'm not 100% convinced the Democratic party has really understood this fact since they never seem to speak to it directly.

The MAGAts believe that we are evil and any compromise with us is a deal with the devil. They believe it is their righteous and holy responsibility to eliminate and if possible exterminate us.

Why are we trying to compromise with them? What deal can we make exactly? They're okay to kill but only our women, children, LGBTQ people, PoC?

jztusk,
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@GottaLaff @atrupar

It's a valid point. But sometimes I think it's worth engaging with them for others to see. It's exhausting, but I think it's good when non-participating observers see that they get pushback.

(I might be flattering myself there, and maybe I just can't avoid an argument, but it might be right.)

chris_evans,

@GottaLaff @atrupar hello pretty

benroyce, (edited )
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@GottaLaff @atrupar if the "BoTh SiDeS tHe SaMe" troll is especially odious, it's an instablock. If they come across as obstinate and clueless, i'll play a little with them, then block

some people may consider my engagement silly

but i think it serves the purpose of an object lesson for everyone else reading along, that's my audience. not that i believe i can convince airhead western fools, or their creators, russian troll farm, of anything

GottaLaff,
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@benroyce I never suggested your engagement was silly. ?

benroyce,
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@GottaLaff 😆 I didn't think you did. I didn't think you were referring to me. I was commenting generally about my own behavior in regards to the content of your comment. "you may consider my behavior silly" as the royal you, not you specifically. I'm calling myself silly. We cool 🙌

But clumsy wording on my part, unnecessary personalization. I'll edit my comment

GottaLaff,
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@benroyce (And you’re not silly, lol)

GottaLaff,
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@benroyce (It wasn’t my comment, look again. It was Aaron’s)

Lizette603_23,
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@GottaLaff NFL It's because they're not intelligent enough to look up "existential", preferring the sound of their ranting/chanting the same old arguments for "burning it all down". Example on tape, look up Susan Sarandon in interviews before the 2016 election saying (paraphrase) "what the hell, let's see what happens if we burn it all down". Idiots.

Wileymiller,
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@GottaLaff @atrupar

I want to hear what republican leaders, like Graham and McConnell, have to say in light of Trump's interview with Time magazine. Of course, they'll duck the question by saying, "I haven't read it", and walk away to an elevator as fast as they can, but they all need to be pressed on it constantly until they give an answer on how they can justify voting for Trump in light of this.

GottaLaff,
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@Wileymiller They WERE confronted, not about this particular interview or article, but the same topics. They don’t care.

Wileymiller,
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@GottaLaff
Oh, I know. In the past, they'd try to downplay it as "he was just joking" or "he doesn't really mean it, it's just hyperbole" on his more general campaign rants. This is different. This is quite specific on destroying democracy and becoming an autocrat. I want to hear what they have to say in justifying it.

GottaLaff,
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@Wileymiller Their only justification is that Biden is worse.

Wileymiller,
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@GottaLaff
Yes, and I never hear a reporter follow up by asking, "how so?".

GottaLaff,
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@Wileymiller They’ve said it: His policies. I’d have to go back and look for specifics.

Wileymiller,
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@GottaLaff
Yes, I've heard them say that, then I'm screaming at the tv, "WHAT POLICIES?! The ones that have the economy thriving and unemployment at an all-time low, and the infrastructure bill that you voted against but take credit for the money coming in to your state?"

Reporters NEVER follow up with making be specific.

GottaLaff,
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@Wileymiller My answer is the same. It wouldn’t matter what they ask. GOP always defaults.

darthstar,
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@GottaLaff @Wileymiller
It's time to stop asking people like Graham and McConnell to gaslight about Trump and assume the worst about them.

Instead of, "What's your thought about the recent Trump interview?" ask, "As someone who endorses Trump's threats against democracy, [please defend his latest insane bullshit."

GottaLaff,
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@darthstar Their default is that Biden is worse for America than Trump. They’ve said as much. @Wileymiller

darthstar,
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@GottaLaff @Wileymiller

This is where we need journalists. "How? Name one time President Biden has suggested using US military against US civilians...I'll wait."

In other words, their default response is a lie.

GottaLaff,
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@darthstar @Wileymiller Yes, it must be that specific, but GOP Fascists’ answers will always be the same: Dems are worse.

Wileymiller,
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@darthstar @GottaLaff

Exactly. It drives me insane.

darthstar,
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@Wileymiller @GottaLaff

It gets me riled up as well. So I best be off to put the boys' toes in the sand before going to work.

Play nice you two.

GottaLaff,
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@darthstar @Wileymiller and i are always nice…. To each other, lol

Wileymiller,
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@GottaLaff @darthstar

And I have to stop now. This is too much of a distraction and I've got a lot of work to do to make my deadlines. See you all later.

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