reddit is trash since the instagram models and the fragile twitter crowd came, look at the amiugly subreddit. mostly good looking instagram people posting selfies in there, fishing for attention. its totally done. i also like sites like 9gag and ifunny, cause there you can hang around as if your friends with all of the strangers. talk about stuff, talk some shit, sometimes a bit of bad words and stupid banter, nobody gets hurt over a few words and then we move on. i miss this on the other platforms, you say one thing, just a bit criticism, . . doesnt even have to be controversial and BANG you're gone.
The loss of the forum like help threads will probably be the most impactful thing. We can build communities elsewhere, but the 8 years old post about a problem only you and the OP is having is super valuable.
One thing Reddit did right was that it kept your content. Even if you were permanently suspended, you could go in and view your posts. This differs from, e.g., Google where you see people lose all their life's memories because they got locked out of their account.
I imagine that there are many people who don't even have a Reddit account, but casually browse it just because there's so much info in there.
But the users own that content, not Reddit. The best thing to do is to migrate by deleting your content from Reddit and moving it elsewhere. Once a critical mass of content is lost, Reddit's value drops tremendously.
Who would care when Reddit admins take over and forcibly reopen r/iPhone, if there are no posts left in the subreddit?
It's one thing to take over and replace mods on a subreddit...
But I never agreed to any terms allowing Reddit to own my content. They can't "restore from backup" without violating my copyright.
It's even harder in the EU, where "restore from backup" would also violate the GDPR (as they're using someone else's data without content).
Sure, we see script kiddies copying things left and right. But big corps with millions of $ in the bank, not so much. I can't think of an easier way to paint a bigger bulleye for the lawyers.
The other thing is, a class action lawsuit of that nature would likely scare of investors and venture capitalists long before the courts actually ruled on anything. It'd have to be a slam dunk in favor of Reddit to avoid that fate and avoid hurting the IPO - while in reality it'd actually almost a slam dunk in the opposite direction.
Reddit's not going to do anything that will hurt the IPO. Sure, they'll forcibly reopen the subreddits and new mods will take those over. But they couldn't go this far and steal content without wrecking their IPO - so we can be pretty sure that they won't.
I own a subreddit that I'll admit that it isn't the largest but I'm going to be putting a link to the new corresponding Kbin magazine in the private message. I'm hoping other subreddits will as well
This is the way. I was also trying to ask the moderators of a niche subreddit to do the same, but sadly they said they find fediverse too complicated to get into. But I've noticed that Lemmy.world in particular is getting new communities set up recently.
I think the adoption rate is promising. Once a critical percentage of reddit users find their place in the fediverse, people will naturally make the move because communities will be more visible, and they'll look at least somewhat like what they are used to.
Agreed. Trailbrazers pave the way, people will follow where the content is. Ever since I learned about fediverse (11 days ago) I've been excited and hopeful for the future of social media.
the only thing that's worrying me about the subreddits closing indefinitely (even though I wholeheartedly support it), is that people are going to use even more closed off, unsearchable platforms as alternatives. /r/unixporn mods say their only "official" alternative is currently their Discord "server".
edit: the message on /r/iPhone also directs people to their Discord. sigh.
An alternative would be them going Restricted with basically no Approved users so everyone can still browse existing content. The more time-consuming and possibly better alternative would be archiving everything so people can just paste the page link on an archiving site like archive.today or archive.org.
I second this. For a while, adding "reddit" to every google search gives generally better results. Now all this information will become hidden in unsearchable places.
the problem we're talking about is that that won't be possible if communities will move to platforms that require creating an account in order to access.
I used to append Reddit to all my google searches because I generally found the answer to most things were somewhere on the site but most recently I’ve found myself interacting with Bing chat to get most things done and so far, it’s not let me down.
I never thought one of the first places I’d turn for information was Bing but their GhatGPT like features are better than what I’ve seen of Bard.
Of course, if all else fails I’ll revert to a standard Google search and normally find what I’m after but my habits are fast changing.
Also what happens when a ton of users delete their content, as I just did yesterday. I participated in quite a bit of tech support chat on reddit, and now all of that is gone.
no it's not, because now you just can't really find this kind of information unless you know which discord server you have to join. STOP USING DISCORD AS A WIKI
Yes, I agree. It would be logical to assume they're confidentially seeking out new prospective moderators behind the scenes at this moment ready to take over.
It will be like having anti popes. if I were have to gone on a long vacation - like 5 or 6 weeks, I am guessing when I returned I might not even notice anything different for a while if I didnt use an app to access. I'm sure they will ban anyone who mentions the great schism.
I completely agree. Reddit has shown no indication of backing down. They will just wait for it to finish if the lockdown is as short as ~48 hours. If a major/big sub goes on lockdown indefinitely, they'll open it and replace the mods. I'm pretty sure there are tons of people out there willing to mod a big subreddit like r/videos for one reason or another. The reddit of the digg migration era is gone. It's just corporate reddit now.
I’m sceptical. If most subs only protest for 2 days, then all Reddit has to do is weather the storm and then continue on. The only way I see it having any further impact is if many large subs black out indefinitely.
Reddit would either be forced to make concessions or escalate even further by removing the mods of the protesting subs and forcing it open again. That would be a further sign of bad faith and really piss off all these mods that spent up to a decade doing moderation for free.
You make it sound like Reddit does not have the option to turn the subreddit on and replace the mods. However, the users who actually really do care about reddit will leave and will have to take their content with them.
My hope is that a lot of the more annoyed subs will do the two days and then continue indefinitely after.
Saying it's only two days makes it harder for Reddit to prepare some bad-faith counter to it (like replacing the mods and/or putting the sub back to being live).
A lot of redditors still have no idea what's going on, so even the two days gives them a chance to get caught up so they can decide if they care about it or not.
I think so. With the end of Apollo, I have no other way to access Reddit except their mobile website or their app. I have the feeling it’s too late now, Apollo is unlikely to come back, regardless of what Reddit does. Now, I just hope kbin / lemmy will grow enough to become a good alternative (still learning how everything works ^^).
Yes, Kbin/lemmy needs enough good and original content to flourish. What I currently miss is the niche subreddits on lemmy. For specific brands or particular products or hobbies it's easy to find a community on reddit, but there are only a few already available on lemmy.
You are absolutely right. Reddit was so big that it was possible find a community for everything. I don't expect kbin/lemmy to get there anytime soon unfortunately.
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