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ryan, 11 months ago

When this was linked a previous time, I wrote up a reply to it which I think applies here as well, so I'm gonna shamelessly copy and paste myself 🙂

I think the big thing to take away from that article is... XMPP developers cared so much about retaining federation with Google Talk that they "became watchers and debuggers of Google’s servers" as it is put there. Google came in and said "this is our house now, adapt or die."

For our current fediverse, it's important I think, as a community, we put our foot down with Meta and say "no, this is our house. If you don't adapt to us, we don't federate with you. If you deviate from the ActivityPub protocol or our other implementations that we do above the ActivityPub protocol (things like boosts/upvotes/downvotes standards as agreed upon by Lemmy/kbin, for example), you will break federation with us, and we will be okay with that." We cannot become the Meta watchers.

ActivityPub is just a protocol and they can use it. It doesn't mean they have to be compatible with us. Let them have their Twitter/Instagram hybrid application. Do we care that much whether we can or cannot see their posts?

To your point, many of us will defederate, either out of politics or financial necessity. There's rumors milling around that Meta / Threads will only initially federate with a few trusted larger instances and be monetarily compensated for it (aka those who will make a deal with the devil to moderate - more on my thoughts on that here).

It may come to the point where a lot of us are running on our own smaller "Fediverse", intentionally divorced from Meta and those instances which have federated with Meta and taken their advertisements and paid posts. If this is the case, we must take the bad with the good - we will always be smaller and niche, and our less techno-idealistic friends will not join our tiny Fediverse because the barrier to entry will remain high.

kameel, 11 months ago

I sure hope so. I just saw /r/technology is open again, no word about the next steps. If this is all that is going to happen then nothing will change much.

Skyler, 11 months ago

I suspect a lot of subs will come back online just so they can publicly coordinate and announce their permanent shutdowns or migrations to somewhere else. If Reddit doesn't relent by June 30 (or maybe even if they do), I think we'll see a lot of communities permanently go dark.

Veraxus, 11 months ago

Did r/technology ever go dark? Maybe I’m confusing it with another sub, but I thought that one was modded by an actual Reddit admin/employee and wasn’t participating?

JungleGeorge, 11 months ago

Is that Boost for Reddit I spy with mine little eye 👀😅

Thaliff, 11 months ago

Scab is a term used when someone crosses a picket line when workers are on strike. I think it's appropriate, they are just over-sensitive.