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GeekFTW, to tech in YouTube tests restricting ad blocker users to 3 video views
GeekFTW avatar

The day YouTube stops me from watching videos with an ad blocker on is the day I start ripping every single godsdamned video I wanna watch on youtube with yt-dlp and watching them the mother-fuck-offline lol.

ihavenopeopleskills,
ihavenopeopleskills avatar

There are plenty of alt-tech platforms that will take over. yawn

Suddenmoose,

this is actually a good idea for preservation efforts. leaving such a huge library of videos that has been around since the modern internets founding with no backups feels dangerous because it is at the mercy of a for profit company which at any time can choose to just nuke their archives.

see what is currently happening with reddit many users are overwriting their comments which (good fuck reddit fir trying to make money from user provided free content then going around and charging the people that maintain the platform) but its also sad to see because now this huge repository of solutions or anecdotes of real issues that affect or have effected people will soon be gone.

and a loss of knowledge is always a tragedy.

for one someone should defenitely make sure to back up this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiYTaQ-Mgck&ab_channel=AccordingToSCIENCE

years of effort put all together in a ten hour video

FaceDeer,
FaceDeer avatar

!datahoarder and other similar communities might be of interest, they do archiving projects like this.

I saw a complete archive of everything posted to Reddit on one of the datahoarder communities as well, it'll have copies of all those deleted and overwritten comments tucked away in there for future recovery.

nicktron,
nicktron avatar

You’re obviously a fan of federation so I think https://joinpeertube.org/#what-are-the-main-advantages-of-peertube might be of interest to you.

DreamySweet, to tech in YouTube tests restricting ad blocker users to 3 video views

“Malware distributor warns users to disable their security features before using their website.”

hygieia, to linux in Almost 40% of Ubuntu users vulnerable to new privilege elevation flaws

CVE-2023-2640 and CVE-2023-32629 if you don’t fancy spending an age clicking Object to all the ‘legitimate interest’ cookie shit.

maiskanzler,

Tip: “I still don’t care about cookies” for desktop browsers + deleting all cookies at the end of the browser session works flawlessly for me.

dookie,

bro doesnt have an adblocker?

moreeni,

And a script blocker like NoScript

garam,

All disable script all together on foreign site using uBo

Bipta, to cybersecurity in Microsoft says Russian hackers breached its systems, accessed source code

Midnight Blizzard hacks Microsoft again

Today, Microsoft says that Midnight Blizzard is using secrets found in the stolen data to gain access to some of the company's systems and source code repositories in recent weeks.

guyrocket, to android in Google Pixel phones unusable after January 2024 system update
guyrocket avatar

I think this does NOT affect GrapheneOS...?

NoneYa, to sysadmin in Ukrainian military says it hacked Russia's federal tax agency

Ah how I wish someone would delete the IRS’ records and backups 🥰

But on a relevant note, that is major! Hitting Russia in the wallet is going to hurt. The morale among the civilian population can get worse under this too.

Dave,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

I’m actually wondering how many Russian billionaires are celebrating today that the tax department has lost the records of all the tax bills they haven’t paid.

Habahnow,

Yeah it’s the rich that benefit from this, same if it happened to the US. The rich take longer to audit than the poor

paultimate14,

To be fair I think Ukraine benefits from this too

NoneYa,

I bet a ton are. And probably not for current years but past years of making mistakes, whether on purpose or not are likely now gone and they effectively have a clean record.

But I wonder if they had anyone making payments. How are they going to know their balance? This is assuming their tax structure is similar to what the US has.

It could benefit a lot of people from all classes. But could also create a lot of havoc when the government demands to be paid and the people don’t agree with the numbers being demanded.

Vilian,

err, i think it dosen’t matter, biolionary already rule the country, so they weren’t going be held accountable to begin with

sukhmel,

Optimistically, whatever tax is not getting paid, it converts to money not being spent to continue the war. Realistically I would expect the government to cut every other expense but the war, so this is not going to influence the war short-term :(

The thread starter is probably right about civilians’ morale, cause they are going to be sucked dry of any money even faster with this kind of fuck-up from government

Francis_Fujiwara, to linux in Free Download Manager site redirected Linux users to malware for years

What the hell is Free Download Manager?

Hairyblue, to linux in Free Download Manager site redirected Linux users to malware for years
Hairyblue avatar

What is a free download manager and why would someone need one?

Dhs92,

It’s a download client that can pause/Resume downloads, as well as use multiple connections to download files

Hairyblue,
Hairyblue avatar

Like a BitTorrent?

I guess I just don't download that much stuff.

db2,

BitTorrent works in chunks basically, or can download it nonlinearly. Downloading from a site in a basic way gets the file from start to finish, the download manager can let you stop it and pick up where you left off, as long as the server you’re getting the file from is configured to allow it.

github.com/agalwood/Motrix

(Note: I don’t use that or any other download manager and haven’t since Windows 95, it’s linked as example only)

schmidtster,

Sucks having your connection drop and having to redlownload the entire thing again. Managers are a fix.

lemmyvore,

Back in the day when most stuff was on FTP and HTTP and your connection was crap and could drop at any time, you’d use a download manager to smooth things along. It could resume downloads when connection dropped, it could keep a download going for days on end and resume as needed, and it could abusing the bandwitdh limitations of the source site by using multiple parallel connections that pulled on different file chunks. In some ways it was very similar to how we use BT today.

It was also useful to keep a history of stuff you’d downloaded in case you needed it again, manage the associated files etc.

drspod,

and it could abusing the bandwitdh limitations of the source site by using multiple parallel connections that pulled on different file chunks

Also for files which had multiple different mirror sites you could download chunks from multiple mirrors concurrently which would allow you to max out your bandwidth even if individual mirrors were limiting download speeds.

puffy,

Back in the 2000s, browsers were really bad at downloading big things over slow connections since they couldn’t resume, a brief disconnect could destroy hours of progress. But I don’t think you need this anymore.

xhieron, to technology in Microsoft is killing WordPad in Windows after 28 years
@xhieron@lemmy.world avatar

This is very upsetting to me–more as a point of principle than in fact–but I appreciate that it doesn’t bother younger generations at all. I just had a small argument with my 11 year old about how not-a-big-deal-who-cares this is, and it basically ended with us agreeing to disagree since it’ll be his problem and his kids’ problem.

And the problem is normalizing the notion that an OS doesn’t need to include a non-subscription word processor. The entire point of this move is to shift the OS Overton Window in favor of consumers accepting and expecting that features like word processors, spreadsheets, etc., should be installed separately and paid for on a subscription basis despite previous iterations of the same software being feature complete on install and purchased at a set, non-recurring fee.

WordPad hasn’t been anybody’s first choice for a word processor in years, but it was included with Windows and did the bare minimum for unsophisticated users. Now we’re entering an era in which those users will as a matter of course buy off-the-shelf computers that come pre-installed without WordPad, but rather with a trial of Office Fuck-You-Pay-Me Edition. Those users may well discover that after their first six months with their new computer (that has made Microsoft more money selling their data than they paid for it), they suddenly get a pop-up informing them that their trial is up and MS wants $99.99 to release the documents they’re holding hostage.

It’s a step backwards for consumers in general, so even for the sophisticated of us who are least likely to be personally affected by this change, there’s definitely cause for alarm.

turkalino,
@turkalino@lemmy.yachts avatar

Google Docs is free and has basically become the standard word processor for the “unsophisticated users” you’re worried about. It essentially comes with your OS because you only need a browser to use it.

I think your kid and his children will survive.

HelloHotel,
@HelloHotel@lemmy.world avatar

it still has strings attached, its not truly “free”. heck, google won’t let it be word pad had no ties to Microsoft once it was given to you. everything else but LibreOffice and some others still have its creator’s ties.

angstylittlecatboy,

Making things in Google Docs is fine, but last I checked Google Docs just sucked at opening anything that wasn’t already a GDoc. LibreOffice Writer sometimes has formatting errors opening Word Docs, but it does a miles better job than Google Docs.

Also, I hate how normalized everything using the cloud (aka “Someone Else’s Hard Drive”) for no reason is.

Muehe,

Well to be fair to Google (urgh, that hurt to write) that’s by design, and LO doing so well at it is due to investing a lot of engineering time on it. Basically MS released an open standard for office documents, but refuses to use this open standard themselves, and instead keeps using an ever evolving “transitional” version of their standard that isn’t made public.

danielton,

Yeah, even Apple includes the iWork suite (Pages, Numbers, and Keynote) for free on Macs and iPads, no subscription needed.

johnthedoe,

The cost of the full Mac apps and OS is in the cost of the hardware. At least it’s one upfront cost. Surely the way windows is going can’t be popular or sustainable.

anon_water,
@anon_water@lemmy.ml avatar

As it should be. We pay for it on Windows and Mac…

Aatube,
Aatube avatar

piracy theme intensifies
Office is one of the easiest things to pirate. It 1. is very popular 2. has an official mass-activation way that can be easily exploited. I suspect we may have a spy in there
Or, y'know, just use LibreOffice with the tabs setting and contextual groups if you can afford experimental features
or if you still hate the UI just use WPS instead, who cares that it's awful and from China you don't have to pay

Also, why would you even get Word or PowerPoint on macOS?? Excel I understand but these two??

danielton,

Also, why would you even get Word or PowerPoint on macOS?? Excel I understand but these two??

Because Word and Powerpoint are what they know.

TrustingZebra,

why would you even get Word or PowerPoint on macOS?? Excel I understand but these two??

Main reason would be full compatibility with Office documents.

anon_water,
@anon_water@lemmy.ml avatar

Let me clarify what I meant. I am saying that we pay for the OS which includes applications on both Mac and Windows. Only Mac gives us a free suite of office applications.

Aatube,
Aatube avatar

Ah, I get it now.
But you can pirate Windows for the exact same reasons.

anon_water,
@anon_water@lemmy.ml avatar

True

cloaker,

Advertise and push Foss substitutes like libreoffice.

vikingtons,
@vikingtons@lemmy.world avatar

could go a step further and bin windows altogether.

granted, it’s a big step for most.

mihnt,
mihnt avatar

Be part of the 3%! Join today!

cloaker,

Love Linux, love windows. 'ate mac, simple as.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot,
JJROKCZ,

Then they ask their grandson or work it dept what they should do and both will answer libre office is free

lolcatnip,

I’d like to normalize the notion that an OS shouldn’t include any application software except for a browser you can use to install other things. Let people pick what they want to use and install it themselves.

sik0fewl,

Yeah, just download LibreOffice or use a free service like Google Docs.

Aatube,
Aatube avatar

or just WPS if you hate these and don't hate China more than Microsoft

ares35,
ares35 avatar
w2tpmf,

You can even use Microsoft Word for free online.

The whole argument that “a subscription service becomes necessary” is nonsense.

schnurrito,

I think a file manager, text editor and command prompt are pretty essential too. And when you’ve added those, where exactly is the limit where it becomes “application software”?

lolcatnip,

I don’t have an answer for that, but I know Wordpad is definitely not essential and I doubt anyone would use it if it didn’t come with Windows

programmer_belch,
@programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Better yet, the OS should just include a desktop environment with simple utilities and a package manager to install the applications you want. It will make users less likely to run into malware while searching for the programs in the web

NightAuthor,

It shouldn’t include a desktop environment, I want to be able to install my own.

programmer_belch,
@programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I was talking more in the lines of taking away most of the windows bloat. If someone wants to install their own desktop environment they will most likely go down the linux path.

Neve8028,

I mean you can. Most people who interact with computers aren’t that knowledgeable and just want their OS to have usable defaults which is fine.

lolcatnip,

We’re talking about Windows here, where the desktop environment is too thoroughly intertwined with the rest of the OS to ever remove it. The kind of terminal emulator environment that Linux boots into doesn’t even exist in versions of Windows that have been sold after the early 2000s.

GamingChairModel,

I think it’s worth separating the two related but distinct concepts of what is a part of the operating system itself (for example, the actual file manager) and what is pre-installed or bundled with the operating system (games like Minesweeper).

I agree with you that a rich text editor definitely shouldn’t be part of the OS. But should it be a bundled part that ships with the desktop environment, the way Windows/MacOS/Android/iOS/ChromeOS all come with photo library software, basic image editors, media players, browser, email client, etc.? These applications aren’t strictly necessary to use or maintain the system itself, so maybe they shouldn’t have some kind of privileged use of the OS’s functionality, but there’s no harm in bundling in the installation defaults.

I don’t think a rich text editor is an important enough function to necessarily be preinstalled with the OS, but I can see an argument, at least. There’s a reason why Windows shipped with one since the beginning, and why MacOS and KDE and Gnome each have a default that very few people actually use regularly.

orbitz,

Wasn’t there an anti trust or monopoly suite against Microsoft for bundled IE back in the day? Funny how times change, though I agree it’s not easy to get a preferred browser without one. Mean it never was overly simple but they were on so many CDs mailed out back then. Think it has to do with some IE and Windows integration too so not just cause they bundled it.

Nougat,

The problem with IE4 is that it was designed in such a way that it was deeply integrated into the operating system, such that it could not be uninstalled.

It's completely reasonable now to ship an operating system without a browser, as long as there's some kind of "app store" or "package manager" through which a user can install whatever browser they want (provided it's available through said store, of course).

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Tbh I use Notepad way more than anything for note making.
If it needs to be formatted, OneNote is free to use and can be saved in any cloud (if there is a shortcut like OneDrive or Dropbox in the Windows explorer)
If it needs to be free and not very sophisticated, I’d look around for a markdown based editor.

If all of that fails, I will use Word.
Never used Wordpad in 15 years (of 24 years of existence) except while trying to open word but Windows suggesting Wordpad first.

roguetrick,

I only use emacs to write TeX notes.

ares35,
ares35 avatar

i use wordpad a lot for viewing docs (loads faster, uncluttered ui). occasionally writing them... and more than once instead of notepad for a text file (on a system without a notepad alternative available) because i needed more features.

i have a few clients that use wordpad as their 'word processor', lack of spelling check be damned.

microsoft must have run out of excuses for specifically not including one in it, seeing how recent windows has spell check baked-in to the os itself. so instead of losing a few dozen sales of office home and student or 365 by making wordpad just a little bit better for those who use it, they're gonna be the assholes and take it out completely and push everyone to the damn cloud app or a 365 sub. fk 'em.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It has it’s uses. Not for me but some are definitely need it. Problem is, how much effort is it to keep it around vs how much is it used realistically.

Best way forward would be to replace it with a completely different app like Word online but as an actual app lile Word Lite or something like that.

kescusay,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

Likely scenario, honestly.
I really don’t worry about it, though.
Not to brag, but it doesn’t bother me.
Understand, there is a solution.
X marks the spot.

(Yeah, I know, that’s kind of stupid. But it seemed funny in my head.)

Emerald,

I can’t read you

I’ve given everything, but you seem distant

I can’t feel you

Your heart is somewhere else, it’s missin’

What if I read back to you?

You have a piece, but there’s two

Someone please get this reference.

asteriskeverything,

I used it for my damn resume because I didn’t have word, didn’t need office. I also liked it because when friends asked me to review a document I could open word documents with it, I would do that sometimes even when I had office because WordPad opened faster and I didn’t need perfect formatting.

I think it is safe to say that your 11 year old is factually wrong lol. But it is okay that they don’t understand how bad this is because the concept of how multiple businesses have switched to subscription based models even in places we wouldn’t expect, like a monthly subscription allowing already installed hardware in your car to actually function, cause it’s just 11 year Olds don’t have a great concept of bills and money at that level yet. I say wait for their first complaint of it as an adult and then put on your carefully choreographed and practiced “I told you so” dance

Okay kidding aside I think it is absolutely wonderful this is something you didn’t just have a conversation with your young kid about but that you had to agree to disagree, you sound like a fantastic parent who actually fosters a relationship with their kid. And probably only rarely says I told you so.

macrocephalic,

I disagree. I don’t think a rich text editor should be part of the OS as it’s not there to operate the computer. An OS should be the tools to run applications and manage your computer. There are a bunch of apps which are so small that it makes sense to include them - like a calculator and text editor, but everything else should be optional.

tabular, (edited )
@tabular@lemmy.world avatar

There should be an OS out there for you which doesn’t come with a rich text editor. [If there is ever a time to mention GNU+Linux in a MS thread then now is that time.] For most people however, not including it is a needless barrier to entry.

BananaTrifleViolin,

I get where you're coming from but I think you're overstating the impact in this day and age. If this had been 1995 it'd be a big deal. Now it's rediculously easy to install any alternative you like for free.

Libre Office is an entire free fully features office suite.

I'm less bothered about removing WordPad than I am about Microsoft advertising and pre-installing it's products in Windows - they force Edge on people, they push OneDrive and preinstall a preview of Office. That's the real problem - not losing WordPad.

At one point Anti-Trust / Anti-monopoly regulators globally punished Microsoft for pushing Internet Explorer to consumers and for a long time in Europe had to offer a choice of Browsers to download on new Windows installs. Now it's allowed to get away with abusing it's dominant position to force it's products on consumers.

Sargteapot,

Or you know, google docs is a thing which is free and imo works better than word

Kbin_space_program,

Google docs is still trash though.

crossal,

How so?

MrSpArkle,

A web browser is not a word processor no matter how much they tart it up. If the thing isn’t saving a file to my local drive that is in a common format It’s not worth putting your effort into.

So many kids are going to grow up not having the concept where data lives and what the failure modes are.

crossal,

How so? I think you can export in different formats?

Agent641,

Does liber office make .docx files and export to pdf?

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

Yup

Agent641,

Nice 👍

nul9o9,

Yes.

Psythik,

It wouldn’t be as good as everyone says if it didn’t.

schnurrito,

Yes, and recent versions of MS Word can also read odt, so no need for docx just to work with Word users.

tool,
@tool@lemmy.world avatar

Does liber office make .docx files and export to pdf?

It does. It’s fine as a replacement for Word, but no one has an answer for Excel. LibreOffice Calc is fine for a basic spreadsheet, but Excel is in a completely different universe than Calc with anything beyond that.

To be fair though, Excel is in a completely different universe than literally any other competing product.

localme,

Do you know how both of those compare with Google Sheets?

elscallr,
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

Sheets is capable enough for the average person but a business is always going to want to use Excel because it’s the industry standard.

I can’t remember the last time I actually needed a spreadsheet for anything other than looking at a bunch of tabular data, but I’m a programmer so I’m not the standard spreadsheet user.

localme,

Gotcha, that makes sense. Thanks for your reply!

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

I’m a programmer so I’m not the standard spreadsheet user.

But then what do you use for database???

elscallr,
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

JSON files that get committed to a git repo, obviously. They’re in a private repository in GitHub so that takes care of security and resiliency, two birds with one stone.

KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX,

At first I was certain this was going to be sarcasm.

KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX,

But then what do you use for database???

Probably a database.

ebits21,
@ebits21@lemmy.ca avatar

Lol exactly

PalmTreeIsBestTree,

If you are an accountant, then it’s your beast of burden.

DogMuffins,

Accountant here. I prefer libreoffice calc.

bemenaker,

Nothing compares to excel. There are spreadsheets, and there is excel. The world runs on excel, and for a damn good reason. Also, excel runs the world, literally.

Corran1138,

So you’re telling me that Excel is very good at stuff?

ebits21,
@ebits21@lemmy.ca avatar

I think calc is fine for a lot of use cases. I use it all the time. It is different though.

For advanced stuff I’d rather use Python anyway to be honest.

fartsparkles,

Excel has built-in Python support now. I wish I was joking.

ebits21,
@ebits21@lemmy.ca avatar

Yes… processed on the cloud. Lol.

msage,

Just use SQL. Even SQLite.

talos,
@talos@lemmy.world avatar

I built a new PC two months ago and it’s the first time I didn’t get Office. Libre Office has everything I need and it’s free.

boogetyboo,
@boogetyboo@aussie.zone avatar

I’ve wondered about free suites like these - how do they make money, do you know?

ebits21,
@ebits21@lemmy.ca avatar

Donations. Volunteers.

LinuxSBC,

A bit of donations, a bit of unpaid people contributing just to help others.

talos,
@talos@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think they make money. It’s an open source project where people donate their time as far as I know.

EDIT: I forgot to mention you can donate to the project. Something has to pay for web hosting, I guess.

insomniac,
@insomniac@sh.itjust.works avatar

They don’t. Libre Office is maintained by a non-profit called The Document Foundation. They’re funded entirely by donations. I think they make enough to have some full time employees.

A lot of open source software is created by individuals or non-profits. The Mozilla foundation makes Firefox, for instance. They make money through donations and also Google pays them a ton of money to be the default search engine.

There are for profit companies that make or contribute to open source software. Such as Red Hat. They tend to make money by selling support for the software.

Wooki,

Why in gods name don’t you use libre office. It’s so much better than word and excel for rent

Frostwolf,
@Frostwolf@lemmy.world avatar

Because libre office is not compatible with many others. You can open it sure but there’s no guarantee that opening .doc or .docx will have broken formatting. Not good for those in the academia or workplace where formatting are strictly enforce.

Wooki,

Absolute bullshit. Microsoft moved to the Open Office document standard after they were forced to and Libre is renown for its ability to open Microsoft’s documents without issue. I have opened countless personally.

Do yourself a favour and get off the junk office suite that hasn’t received a functional update in the last 10 years that wasn’t to improve its rent charging capacity.

funchords,
@funchords@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

This is very upsetting to me–more as a point of principle than in fact–but I appreciate that it doesn’t bother younger generations at all.

I am in a support group with over 100 senior citizens in it. Getting a file with a *.rtf extension used to be a thing, but it hasn’t been a thing in years. I do get *.doc and *.docx files so they’re probably getting lured into Office like you said even before Wordpad is removed.

ebits21,
@ebits21@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s too bad Linux isn’t more normalized. For those very simple users (and for the more sophisticated) Linux is probably much better than Windows at this point.

No ads, free software, updates can be very simple and stable, less security issues.

zacher_glachl, to technology in Hosting firm says it lost all customer data after ransomware attack

Other people’s computers. Never forget.

Moonrise2473, to technology in Hosting firm says it lost all customer data after ransomware attack

What’s the point of primary and secondary backups if they can be accessed with the same credentials on the same network

snaptastic,

What’s the correct way to implement it so that it can still be automated? Credentials that can write new backups but not delete existing ones?

IWantToFuckSpez, (edited )

A tape library that uses a robot arm https://youtu.be/sYgnCWOVysY?t=30s

Backups that are not connected to any device are not susceptible to being overwritten and encrypted by malware.

reflex,
reflex avatar

A tape library that uses a robot arm
https://youtu.be/sYgnCWOVysY?t=30s

Or like that vault in Rogue One?

rentar42,

Fundamentally there's no need for the user/account that saves the backup somewhere to be able to read let alone change/delete it.

So ideally you have "write-only" credentials that can only append/add new files.

How exactly that is implemented depends on the tech. S3 and S3 compatible systems can often be configured that data straight up can't be deleted from a bucket at all.

Moonrise2473,

i use immutable objects on backblaze b2

from command line using their tool is something like b2 sync SOURCE BUCKET

and from the bucket setting disable object deletion

also borgbase allows this, backups can be created but deletions/overwrites are not permanent (unless you enabled them)

Haui,
@Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I don’t know if it is the „correct“ way but I do it the other way around. I have a server and a backup server. Server user can‘t even see backup server but packs a backup, backup server pulls the data with read only access, main server deletes backup, done.

cwagner,

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  • Haui,
    @Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Neat! Thanks for mentioning it!

    VerifiablyMrWonka,
    VerifiablyMrWonka avatar

    For an organisation hosting as many companies data as this one I'd expect automated tape at a minimum. Of course, if the attacker had the time to start messing with the tape that's lost as well but it's unlikely.

    Moonrise2473,

    It depends what’s the pricing. For example ovh didn’t keep any extra backup when their datacenter took fire. But if a customer paid for backup, it was kept off-site and was recovered

    It might be even pretending to be a big hosting company when they’re actually renting a dozen deds from a big player, much cheaper than maintaining a data center with 99.999% uptime

    CrateDane,

    They weren’t normally on the same network, but were accidentally put on the same network during migration.

    db2, to technology in WinRAR flaw lets hackers run programs when you open RAR archives

    Well now I’m definitely not buying it.

    NateNate60,

    I never understood the appeal of paid programs. 7-Zip works equally well and is free and open source software. It integrates much nicer into File Explorer as well.

    Black_Gulaman,
    @Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Lol wooosh I guess?

    TheMadnessKing,

    WinRAR has so much better UI than 7zip.

    I will honestly move away from WinRAR if something better with dark theme is launched.

    Tick_Dracy,

    PeaZip is algo very good and has dark mode. I still prefer 7zip on Windows, but on MacOS is my elected choice.

    TheMadnessKing,

    I have tried PeaZip Multiple times and have always turned away. It has significant startup & load time compared to WinRAR.

    Sused,

    Supporting the developers??

    obinice,
    @obinice@lemmy.world avatar

    I agree that 7zip is great (albeit based in Russia, so not something I’m sure I want to support at the moment), but consider for a moment that winrar licencing is primarily aimed at businesses (which is why they don’t bother locking personal users out after the trial ends), and for that money you get a certain guarantee of functionality and stability over a long period of time.

    There’s absolutely no guarantees that 7zip will continue to be developed, or that it will retain it’s current features and functionality - the developer can turn it into a Minesweeper clone if they feel like it, and there’s nothing a business can do but keep using an outdated and thus potentially dangerous version that will eventually become unusable.

    You also get a certain level of customer service and corporate communication between the purchasing company and the production company to help resolve issues, which may not exist at all with the alternative.

    It’s also not always wise to have your business rely heavily on a tool that only sees development through volunteer work by a limited number of disparate people that may come and go, and while I don’t know how large the volunteer base is that works on 7zip (it could be just the one guy, it could be a hundred people), to a company it’ll never feel as reliable an option as relying on a tool that sees development and maintenance through a paid, full time staff at an established legal entity company with an established reputation.

    And speaking for a moment to that established company bit, consider that winrar’s company is based in Berlin, within the European Union and under it’s rules and laws, which is a far better proposition from a company’s standpoint than having to legally deal with an individual guy inside the Russian Federation, especially one that hasn’t actually sold your business a product at all.

    Anyway, just a few potential thoughts for why tools that do the same job might be preferred by a business, sorry it got a bit long 😅

    Tick_Dracy,

    Have you tried PeaZip? It’s algo very good. It’s what I use on MacOS.

    kbotc,

    On Mac, The Unarchiver is always the correct choice.

    Tick_Dracy, (edited )

    No, it isn’t! Especially if you want to edit files inside a .zip, which that tool doesn’t seem capable to do it, nor creating multiple individual files… Also, if you just want to browse a package to see what it’s inside, the GUI does a piss poor job showing you the files/folders.

    kbotc,

    … You can’t edit files inside a zip file. The program’s just hiding that it’s decompressing and decompressing the whole thing every time you change something.

    Zip files are usually just another wrapper around DEFLATE, and compressing each block requires knowledge of the previous block’s compression (Part of LZ77). It’s a streaming format, not a sparse format.

    Buddahriffic,

    If you edit a text file, it actually just creates a new file because inserting text in the middle means all of the text after changes position. I’d still call that editing an existing file rather than creating a new file based on the previous one plus some edits. The second description might be more technically accurate but it’s just unnecessary technical details because it’s effectively the first description.

    Even going back to the original use of edit, editors would mark up books or articles and then a new copy would need to be created with those edits. I’m having trouble thinking of any cases where edit truly means “change something in place without making a new copy of it with the changes included”. I guess small edits with pencil or whiteout can sometimes work.

    Tick_Dracy,

    I’ve updated packages of RAR files in the past, by adding new files into the container itself ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    kbotc,

    RAR != ZIP.

    Fell free to read a stack overflow about that situation

    Your choices are basically “rewrite the entire file” or “leave the original file in place, do an append and try and hide the old file.”

    Editing old data in most streaming file formats with inline metadata is basically impossible because they compact the data as much as possible and internally refer to offsets.

    Appending is trivial, editing is very hard if not downright impossible.

    lemmyvore,

    7zip is FOSS, GPL license. Even if the author stops others can step in. Even if nobody does and it stops being actively developed you’ll still be able to extract your archives for the foreseeable future. You can still unpack ARC files from the 80s.

    Eldritch,

    Yep, I run a number of Linux distros. Debian to Arch. They all handle 7z with no fuss.

    Sanchokan,

    However, WinRAR in this case is also the one that puts your business at risk.

    Rolder,

    I mean, does paying for winrar somehow guarantee that it will keep being actively developed?

    sethboy66,

    No, the fact that businesses pay for it for something of that guarantee despite there being free peer-alternatives means that it is a better guarantee.

    When you see businesses electing to pay for something despite free alternatives, there is likely a reason (or a number of them). I've seen free tools go from active maintaining to completely dead in a single update due to the work needed to get it back up and operating with new environment-side changes.

    AbidanYre,

    I’ve seen free tools go from active maintaining to completely dead in a single update

    And we’ve all seen companies go out of business overnight. There’s no more guarantee that WinRAR will still be around tomorrow than there is for 7z.

    SaraIsabella,

    Just because someone was born in Russia does not make them a specific type of person. Nobody chooses where or when they are born. 7-Zip has been for ages, and if something were to happen to it then im sure one of the dozen of forks around will take the role as the “main one”. However you are right, companies desire something predictable, stable. Which is why some companies like SUSE, Red Hat, etc. Manage to sell FOSS. in fact i believe some of these distros include p7zip, and they freeze it to a specific version, security updates and bug fixes are backported.

    cokane_88,
    @cokane_88@lemmy.world avatar

    Microsoft basically copied WinRAR added it to the OS, back in the windows 7 days you needed WinRAR

    AProfessional,

    Implementing support for a widely used format isn’t “basically copied” and there have been alternatives for decades.

    glimse,

    Back in the Windows 7 days you could use 7zip. I’ve been using it since like XP

    narc0tic_bird,

    I like WinRAR for its built-in parity functionality. You can achieve similar results with 7-Zip using PAR2, but having it built right into WinRAR with two options (add a recovery record to each archive, or create separate recovery archives (basically what PAR2 does)) is so much more convenient.

    WinRAR is like what…? 30-35 bucks? That’s per user, unlimited machines, lifetime license. More than fair I’d say.

    Valmond,

    WinRar decompresses directly to destination. All other I have tried does it to like c:/tmp (can probably change that though) then copy it over, which is impractical or even impossible with really large files.

    That’s about it though IMO.

    Tick_Dracy, (edited )

    You sure about that? I’ve decompressed huge files, some time ago, using a 3.5” HDD and if it were like that, it would take much longer than needed because of that overlay you talk about.

    And it took the same time as WinRar (͡•_ ͡• )

    Valmond,

    Downvote all you want, but you can configure WinRAR to decompress directly to source.

    I had TB files and just no space to have both a copy and the result, IIRC the speed was also obviously better without copying.

    Tick_Dracy, (edited )

    I didn’t downvoted your post, I just made a genuine question, since I’ve never noticed that. I’m just sceptic on what you mentioned. Whenever I have some free time, I’ll try to do a deep test on that one!

    Edit: No need to do a test, since I never use drag n drop (like mentioned on another comment), my test would always show the same outcome as WinRAR.

    pijon,

    You can decompress directly to the destination with 7zip as well. You just need to use the “extract” button instead of doing a drag and drop.

    Tick_Dracy,

    This is the right answer! Since I never used drag and drop I wasn’t ever aware that this was an issue.

    According to the FAQ:

    Why does drag-and-drop archive extraction from 7-Zip to Explorer use temp files?

    7-Zip doesn’t know folder path of drop target. Only Windows Explorer knows exact drop target. And Windows Explorer needs files (drag >source) as decompressed files on disk. So 7-Zip extracts files from archive to temp folder and then 7-Zip notifies Windows Explorer about >paths of these temp files. Then Windows Explorer copies these files to drop target folder.

    To avoid temp file usage, you can use Extract command of 7-Zip or drag-and-drop from 7-Zip to 7-Zip.

    Valmond,

    Cool thanks for the info, I did it by script but then trere is maybe some option I didn’t find…

    sknowmads,

    You deserve the updoot sir

    sock,

    does it still let you infinitely have a free trial??

    db2,

    Just blow the dust off that copy of serials2k 🤣

    Nitrate55, (edited ) to technology in Google Gmail continuously nagging to enable Enhanced Safe Browsing
    @Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    The notification to enable enhanced safe browsing even shows up when you’re accessing Gmail on Firefox. It doesn’t even make any damn sense, this feature only works on Chrome. And of course they’ll never add a “don’t show again” option. Think I might just set Gmail to forward to my Proton account from now on.

    Edit: found an article on how to forward to ProtonMail in case anyone else wants to know how. Seems very easy to do.

    Kikkertje,

    I’ll keep Gmail for any shit I might want to sign up for and use ProtonMail as my serious email account.

    baggins,
    @baggins@beehaw.org avatar

    Been doing this for a while now.

    I go back to Gmail every now and again to check if I’ve missed anything, it’s just a cesspool of junk and spam.

    Good to be away from it

    Bobert, to technology in New Nitrogen malware pushed via Google Ads for ransomware attacks

    Mark my words, this is going to become more common. When corporations become as large as nation-states they will begin to act like nation-states.

    Oh, you got malware from our ads? Well if we could implement our Web Integrity API we could easily verify, and track any ads and prevent this. It’s all about security and think of how much better your security would be if we could prevent this!

    ICastFist,
    @ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

    When corporations become as large as nation-states

    They may not be in terms of people, but many sure as hell are already bigger in terms of money than a LOT of countries. Not to mention how Microsoft alone is the “glue” holding together a fuckload of different govt’s computer systems.

    grue,

    When corporations become as large as nation-states they will begin to act like nation-states.

    This is why all the infighting between “government is bad” libertarians and “corporations are bad” socialists is missing the point. In reality, it’s simply very large organizations of any type that are bad.

    TheBat, to technology in New Nitrogen malware pushed via Google Ads for ransomware attacks
    @TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

    And google is trying to force as many as ads down our throats as possible.

    Fuck Google.

    BallShapedMan,
    @BallShapedMan@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m nostalgic for the day when Google was the good company. A few years before “alphabet” you could see the change coming and since “alphabet” they are worse every year.

    bassomitron,

    They never were the “good company,” in my opinion. We were just naive and ignorant of what they were up to.

    chuckleslord,

    And they were trying to maintain a false veneer. Nowadays it’s mask off with them.

    rehabdoll,

    … and attempting to kill adblockers!

    starman,
    @starman@programming.dev avatar

    Fuck Google

    bh11235,

    In the future your browser will be able to remotely attest that you have no viable security solution to block the infection and no working backups as a condition for being served these malicious ads, increasing the ad value since they can now be more precisely targeted

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