Same. I've been on Reddit for almost 12 years and for so long now, every time I post or comment I go through a several-minute-long phase of "Ugh no one needs to hear from my stupid arse on this topic" and "Jesus Christ what a stupid ass comment..." Twitter I've been on years also but I barely use because it was going down the shitter long before Space Karen got his hands on it.
Been here in the Fediverse on Mastodon and Kbin for a few weeks now and it's like going from gas station sushi that may be fresh that day to a high end sushi shop with a great omakase. Reddit still has some subs that, in my own realm of interests, haven't picked up yet here in the Fediverse, but even just over the last 3 weeks the changes and increase in content has been very noticeable.
What I look forward to the most is when different interest groups start federating their own instances, like startrek.website is doing already. It takes time for these communities to grow, but I'm sure that in time decentralization is going to do wonders for them. :)
I've been commenting on (fediverse twitter equivalent) mastodon posts on kbin, with my kbin account, because mastodon is also federated with kbin.
Sure, the fediverse is fragmented, but it's also far more connected.
TIL there's someone working on federating wordpress with mastodon. That means we'll soon be able to 'boost'(retweet) a wordpress article on The Rules of Acquisition on mastodon with a kbin account and have lemmy users comment on it with a Quark gif they found on pixelfed(instagram equivalent) or a video from peertube (youtube equivalent).
Honestly, it feels a bit like we've been robbed all these years, commenting on screenshots of tweets you can't easily copy paste or snapchat videos that barely load in the janky reddit videoplayer. That and switching between 5 different messenger apps, because these greedy cunts refuse to allow you to send a message from insta to whatsapp, because it might mean you spend 5 seconds less looking at ragebait content surrounded by ads.
Totally agree, especially with your last paragraph. It feels like we're going back to when the internet was full of possibilities and felt open. I'm excited about that!
I'm pretty content with KBin. As time goes on the content level will increase and hopefully remain at a level which makes it easy to curate my feed and reduce noise. Truth be told Reddit has been getting worse for a long time and being here reflects that. This feels a lot like what Reddit felt like 10 years ago.
I 99% agree with you, but I remember Reddit 10 years ago. For me, this feels like what I would have imagined Reddit felt like a couple years before I joined, 13 years ago.
I like kbin but I'm hoping to find a fast way to filter out all of the German subs. I have absolutely no issue with them, I just can't understand the content so it's useless to me. It seems to take up about half of my feed
I mean we can set the language of posts, cant you filter by the language (yet)?
Well, one more thing for the to do list, because yeah, that's obviously useful
I don't see either a subscribe button or a cancel icon. When i click on a community name it brings me to a page that's just a feed of the links in that community.
I tried it on both the mobile site and also using the "load desktop site" versions, and i don't see the "subscribe" or "cancel" options on either version.
Oh geez, i did some poking around and it seems that you have to tap the hamburger menu in the upper left of the website's header section, then scroll down past a bunch of stuff unrelated to the community, and only THEN can you see the subscribe and block options. It's clearly very early days in the design of this site. Amazing what's been accomplished thus far, but there's still a lot to be done.
lol yeah, some kbin design are just not intuitive. like, why should I scroll to the bottom of the page to post a comment? also there's no button to hide/unhide comment, see parents comment, etc. Lemmy is more similar to reddit, but it has a worse interface and much buggier
Because feddit.de is a main Lemmy instance and there are some popular instances over there. I'd love to block feddit.de out right but they have the main starwarsmemes and some other good practical magazines, so I'm stuck unsubbing from them on a one-by-one basis.
Thanks for letting me know. Makes me shed a tear from pride knowing our practicability prevents you from disassociating with the German part of the fediverse.
If you're on kbin.social you can select subscriptions as the default in your user settings. That way only the magazines you subscribe to show in your feed.
Plus it goes the other way. If someone only knows German, the English will be a much-worse flood.
Probably needs a PR to add a per-user language filtering setting. Probably a good idea to permit multiple options for multilingual users. I don't believe that it exists today, though clearly the metadata required to do the filtering is available.
Isn't there a language setting on kbin? On Lemmy I have set it to show posts only in English, Spanish, and Undetermined (where the poster didn't set the language). I'd assume / hope there's something similar in kbin?
I’m actually hoping that at some point we may have an automatic translation for content not in our chosen language. The way Mastodon does. I want to understand what the threads and comments in other languages are saying! I feel like it broadens understanding.
“are you sick of ads? Heres an ad!” Doesn’t have the same impact you think it does.
Also, food for thought: you really want to invite the kind of people who can’t use adblockers here? Barriers to entry aren’t necessarily a bad thing. You want quality, not quantity. More people isn’t necessarily better. And the people who stuck by reddit and spez through all of that?
And you think that the people who already saw entire subreddits shutdown in protest, with Lemmy plastered all over the place as an alternative, who decided to stay after all the content creators left, THOSE PEOPLE, are the ones you want to now court over?
Again, quality vs quantity.
We already gained the quality contributors from reddit. Advertising now is just drawing from the bottom of the barrel.
Most people on reddit don’t even know about Lemmy lol. I’m sure a large chunk of users, particularly on lefty subs and programming ones, would love to check it out.
Ads definitely aren’t the way to go though since you’d be giving reddit money. Perhaps setting something up with mods of said subreddits?
Lmfao. Lemmy was PLASTERED on the front page. It was on r/place along with “FUCK SPEZ”. If you missed it, you’re just not even looking. And if you’re not even looking and don’t care and think reddit is just wonderful, again, do we really want you?
And seriously, with Lemmy being FILLED with “dae Linux?” and “communism good” posts and programming humor hitting my front page HOURLY, you’re honestly trying to tell me “the programmers and lefties don’t know about this place”? Seriously?!?!
Lemmy was PLASTERED on the front page. It was on r/place along with “FUCK SPEZ”.
Most reddit users aren’t on there everyday to see those. If you were talking about Lemmy on reddit for a month or two after things calmed down you’d see barely anyone there still know about this place.
I have a RL friend who’s on Reddit all the time, and he didn’t even hear about the shutdown, much less /r/place, or anything like lemmy. I’ve been trying to sell it to him…
Re: The “We’re elite” becomes “We’re bored talking among the same old people” or “We’re burned out”, leading to users leaving and formerly thriving communities dying.
I’ve been around long enough to see this happen on multiple forums.
And if your friend isn’t convinced by you and somehow missed the months long protest, destruction of third party apps, and mass exodus, honestly they should stay in reddit. We don’t need another Facebook.
Plus, have you considered that Lemmy isnt singularly owned? You literally can’t say ANY of what you want to say in your ads. “We don’t have ads”. Really? You can assure me that no single instance has ads? Which instance are you even going to link to? Your own? What makes that one special? What happens when you advertise for “Lemmy” and people find the intolerant instances and assume that’s all of the fediverse? What about other offshoots like kbin and mastodon? Not gonna advertise for them? And why should I trust you with money in the first place? For all I know it’s just a scam to collect money and run. What happens when someone else pops up claiming that their donation campaign is the real one and yours is fake? Literally anyone can spin up an instance and claim to be “doing it for Lemmy!”
It's really exciting to see the community grow and develop. Two weeks ago there were barely any upvotes and comments. Now I see posts with several hundred upvotes and comments. /m/All has new content each and every time I visit. I see more and more Magazines come through. Saw a few posts above 1K upvotes already a few days ago. It's awesome!
Sighs … the enthusiasm is appreciated, but reacting to the numbers like this without looking into what’s going on is likely to lead to false conclusions.
In this case, I’m pretty sure fedidb is making a mistake and reading two separate endpoints of the kbin.social instance as separate instances when they’re the same. As kbin.social has ~50k users, this number is about that much too high. See the servers list for kbin here: fedidb.org/software/kbin
I’ve messaged the admin of fedidb on mastodon about this and so they know. But at the moment it seems the admin is setting something up that looks like separate instances without being so.
See mastodon thread here: hachyderm.io/@maegul/110707923404220007
Sighs … the enthusiasm is appreciated, but reacting to the numbers like this without looking into what’s going on is likely to lead to false conclusions.
You’re reading things into this, probably because that’s how these posts usually go.
But if you look again, I merely posted the stats, and asked how they could be explained. Looking into what’s going on.
It’s a question, not enthusiasm or celebration.
Thanks for the rest of your comment, that was a helpful answer.
I initially had a similar reaction, as ‘active users’ in the title makes it look like you are stating a fact. ‘Reported active users’ in the title would have given a suggestion that you are (rightly) questioning the number.
kbin definitely feels more... idk polished? compared to Lemmy. Lemmy feels like a proof of concept, while kbin feels like effort was actually put into it's UI. I bounce between both, but I certainly prefer kbin.
@ripcord Squabbles is very slick. I think it does a great job of meeting its mission statement of being a cross between reddit and twitter. I think if it can scale well (it's still primarily a one-person effort I believe) it has a shot at being a serious reddit/twitter competitor. And its user interface feels modern, whereas both lemmy and kbin feel like they're a generation behind in terms of UX. (I know many ex-redditors prefer the old.reddit.com look & feel by the way, which is probably why they'd more likely to be drawn to the current crop of threadiverse sites, but the casual user is more likely to be drawn to something like squabbles.)
Those numbers seem super high even with current migrations. Bots spamming bots. I hope the major Lemmy instances can get 18 working soon as well. Not just for captcha but also the content curation algorithm.
What we need is a much better landing page for join-lemmy.org because I was utterly confused about it. Initially I thought these were all independant instances not sharing information (federation).
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