I’m not sure the mods are going to care honestly. I think most are in agreement that the Orville is basically star trek adjacent, and close enough that… Honestly as long as it doesn’t take over, nobody will bat an eye at the occasional Orville meme.
The drama bits and plotlines are every bit as good as TNG/Voyager/DS9, but if you don’t like McFarlane’s humor, I doubt you would like the other 75% of the show’s content.
Thing is it’s not the humour, it’s the humanity. Showing all the crew are just as dorky as your average human today, not all stick-wedged paragons like TNG. Think of the top time funniest moments - getting Bortus to eat a cactus, 500 cigarettes, karaoke, the moustache, the dancing bandito, isaac’s joke fail… the humour is there, but it’s the humanity that makes them. that’s where s3 kinda fell down a bit, i don’t know if it was covid rush or what, but we missed a lot of the warmer moments. Season finale delivered though.
It's as much Star Trek as the unofficial Trek movie Galaxy Quest. Doesn't matter if the characters and universe are different, it's got the same vibe to fit in.
I can understand why. The motivations and message are a bit deeper than WoK. But UC wouldn't have happened (in the same way) without WoK first, since I don't think Kirk had the same hatred towards Klingons before. Distrust sure, but not revenge level hate.
UC also has that connection with one of the best TNG episodes, Yesterday's Enterprise.
I think the humour in the first few episodes was Mcfarlens way of sneaking the show past the network suits - he sold it as family guy meets star trek, then switched on them once it was established.
Literally the case, the first couple eps were written for fartjock executives. Ep 4 onwards were written for the show. It’s why there’s a sudden stratospheric upswing
Honestly I kind of wanted them to keep more of the humorous tone. I know a lot of people hated it and thought it was distracting, but I thought it was a pretty unique take on the genre. I wish they’d toned it down without going full space opera.
Orville was such an aimless show in the beginning. Obviously it started out going for campy comedy parody but it honestly wasn’t hitting the mark on the comedy often enough. I’m stalled out somewhere in early Season 3–not because I wasn’t enjoying it, I think it’s actually gotten pretty good by that point, but just time and other commitments.
I prefer the first seasons that they didn’t take the show too seriously. The last ones (or last one?) Was way too dense, with episodes way too long that got be bored at half episode every time.
I had the opposite experience lol! I really liked the first season, season 2 started off pretty well, but I lost interest before I got to season 3. It felt like the later episodes were either too preachy, or too focused on trying to make the characters “cool” instead of funny. I just wasn’t enjoying it any more
Lower Decks is the entire reason I’ve even begun my Star Trek adventure. I’d watch Trek occasionally whenever it was on TV, but now I’ve watched all of LD, DISC, SNW, TOS, the first 6 movies, 6 seasons of TNG, and 1 Season of ENT in like the past 2 months or so.
People keep saying this, so as someone who has only watched half of the first season, when does it get to this point?
I mean it’s amusing enough, but it’s just a pastiche of cliches and obvious gags. People keep saying that it distills Trek down to its essence or something like that, but to me it seems like “watered down” would be more accurate.
Just like TNG it starts picking up in the 2nd season and really hits its stride on the 3rd season. If you were to rewatch TNGs first season without the nostalgia goggles you’d consider it pretty campy too.
After the first season it begins to feel a bit less campy and the crude humor is toned down a bit and even more so I feel by the third season. The overall plot starts to show itself in season 2 and just gets better from there.
I’m actually surprised there isn’t, as far as I know, a modern high-budget miniseries about the Wright brothers. It seems like such an obvious biography subject.
Can you imagine how cool it would be to see reproductions of those early planes flying? They wouldn’t have to stop at the first flight. They could do something like go up through WWI.
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