abolisyonista, to Philippines

Talking to Filipinos about is difficult because everyone here begins at the premise that the country is “underdeveloped.” One person told me that talking about degrowth from the perspective of rural poverty did not make sense because the rural needed development and growth. But what do we actually mean by “growth”? Growth and development means valorization, means creating value and money. If we mean that the rural needs more schools, hospitals, and amenities to improve standards of living, then say that. Because rural poverty is precisely the cause of development, not the lack of it. Value is extracted there in its purest form from the earth, from rent, etc.

We need degrowth precisely because growth and development has impoverished us as so.

abolisyonista, to Philippines

Americanos are pissed that they can't have bananas year round if / / happens. Banana availability has its roots in imperialism, destructive monocropping, and grueling agricultural labor/slavery.

We literally have a word for client states of for the export of bananas: banana republic. Banana imports to the West is drenched in the blood of thousands massacred for your God damn commodities. In the , companies told this instruction to banana worker syndicalists: “turn them into fertilizers for the bananas.”

On top of that is the steep ecological and carbon costs to actually shipping the damn things. Do you really need bananas year round?

There's also the problem of monocropping which destroys the biodiversity of forests to make way for plantations, even if we discount the slave labor. Monocropping has made Cavendish plantations at high risk of diseases. It could very well be that Cavendishes would become an endangered species just like the Gros Michel after nature erases its scourge. Maybe the extinction of the Cavendish is already a matter of time, rendering banana disocorse moot.

Americanos just don't understand that in a liberated world, maybe people won't be breaking their backs for some Americano to get their god damn banana. Of course degrowth/communism/anarchism means that relations to luxuries will change.

Besides, Cavendishes suck. They literally taste terrible. Y'all seriously live like this? Lakatan, Señorita, and Sabah tastes way better. Yeah, they can't be exported, boohoo. Not everything has to be a commodity, much less to please some Americano half a world away.

FantasticalEconomics, to Economics
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I've been on here a few years, probably time for an !

I , , and because it's what I know.

I discuss and because I believe they are important (and for the same reason).

I research , pedagogy, and grades because incentives matter, especially in .

I read and and just for the fun of it.

degrowthuk, to UKpolitics
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A general election has been called for 4 July. The announcement surprised many, ourselves included, who expected an autumn poll.

We thought there would be more time to disseminate the messages of , that,

> There is a profound triple crisis, ecological, social and economic

> Actions we call The are needed to stop, or at least, limit, the damage to the systems that sustain human life.
/Cont'd.

https://gettingreal.org.uk/2024/06/03/getting-real-during-an-election/

degrowthuk,
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/
> Nothing can be the same from now and that means a massive effort to build a better, socially and economically just, and ecologically safe future.

Mainstream political leaders call for economic growth but we know that growth only makes the situation worse. They distract by calls that point to enemies beyond our shores, or among the peoples that live here. They may nod to sustainability but only halfheartedly, with proposals that will address only part of the problem.
/Cont'd

alx, to academicchatter
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Something interesting found on LinkedIn that made the little riot in me rejoice:

Degrowth Journal has a new call for paper for their new special issue:

"Anarchy and Degrowth"

Things are getting serious (finally)

@academicchatter

shekinahcancook, to geopolitics
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This was an interesting email to receive today. It reminded me of some things we discussed back on The Oil Drum about this very thing (the online archive still available: http://theoildrum.com/special/archives ) - how paving over all the old city & county gravel roads had introduced a pile of fixed costs (not just paving, but regular re-grading, snow plowing, etc) that towns would eventually have to shed.

In other words, at some point in the not too distant future, they will start turning roads back into gravel roads, slowly but surely, starting at the very outside edges and creeping inward until only a certain core of local paved roads remains.

Just now I did a search and sure enough, somebody started doing it a few years back: https://www.thegazette.com/news/more-roads-going-back-to-gravel-to-save-money/

And more recently: https://www.wpr.org/economy/taxes/small-wisconsin-towns-paved-roads-return-gravel

This is just one of the areas that will have to be cut back, of course. All those rural subdivisions, you know, are "too far away" for transit, too!

NeuKelte, to climate German
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This is your personal invitation to discuss the draft of the Nua-Celtic Manifesto with me on https://zotum.net/profile/ncm.
We need , a and to in a of within 🙏

NeuKelte, to random German
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This is your personal invitation to discuss the draft of the Nua-Celtic Manifesto with me on https://zotum.net/profile/ncm.
We need , a and to in a of within 🙏

NeuKelte, to random German
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This is your personal invitation to discuss the draft of the Nua-Celtic Manifesto with me on https://zotum.net/profile/ncm.
We need , a and to in a of within 🙏

shekinahcancook, to climate
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How working for place-based solutions can change the world By Patrick Mazza, originally published by The Raven May 28, 2024

"...We must anticipate & prepare for extremes while also doing all we can to mitigate them and reduce their intensity. The more stressed systems become, the more difficult it will be for them to respond to stress. It’s a vicious cycle, the kind of feedback loop that leads to collapse. That is why we must build strong and resilient communities in our places, in our cities, towns, rural areas and bioregions. If systems break down at larger levels, we will have to fall back on our own places..."

I have mentioned many times that we will need to be prepared to take in our friends & family who will be displaced here in the US by disasters and climate collapse. The govt is not going to help. Our neighborhoods and congregations will be the basis of our sustainability.

https://www.resilience.org/stories/2024-05-28/how-working-for-place-based-solutions-can-change-the-world/?

#ClimateCrisis #Sustainability #ReLocalization #DeGrowth #UrbanGardening #Housing

TatianaIlyina, to climate
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Desirability and feasibility of perpetual economic growth is a matter of academic debate.

As of now degrwoth is not even considered as a climate change mitigation measure in projections of future #climatechange. Instead, they rely on technological innovation and further growth.

Here is cool new paper on the challenges of implementing the concept of #degrowth in models. 👇

Downscaling down under: towards degrowth in integrated assessment models https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09535314.2023.2301443

NeuKelte, to random German
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We need , a and to in a of within 🙏

NeuKelte, to random German
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This is your personal invitation to discuss the draft of the Nua-Celtic Manifesto with me on https://zotum.net/profile/ncm.
We need , a and to in a of within 🙏

NeuKelte, to random German
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We need , a and to in a of within 🙏

NeuKelte, to random German
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We need , a and to in a of within 🙏

shojiwax, to climate
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Which is better books or eBooks?

It doesn’t really depend.

The answer is less consumption and more sustained availability.

Sharing books.
Second hand bookshops.
Public libraries.
Ability to share eBooks once purchased.

This is the way to save the planet.

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/25/1252930557/book-e-reader-kindle-climate

NeuKelte, to random German
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NeuKelte, to random German
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NeuKelte, to random German
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This is your personal invitation to discuss the draft of the Nua-Celtic Manifesto with me on https://zotum.net/profile/ncm.
We need , a and to in a of within 🙏

NeuKelte, to random German
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This is your personal invitation to discuss the draft of the Nua-Celtic Manifesto with me on https://zotum.net/profile/ncm.
We need , a and to in a of within 🙏

shekinahcancook, to sustainability
@shekinahcancook@babka.social avatar

Growth or Scale? By Tom Murphy, originally published by Do the Math May 22, 2024

"...It’s not too hard to lay hands on records of global resource use. One publication I ran across has some useful graphs for a few raw materials in common use. The first graph shows annual extraction of copper, zinc, and lead since 1900, usefully...

...From 1960 to 2005, in no region of the world did annual production of timber moderate alongside growth. The total global activity almost doubled (77% increase) over this interval rather than stagnating or tumbling by a factor of two as growth did.

The result for all of these resources is clear: scale is a more apt correlate than growth. The curves bear a family resemblance to the hockey-stick scale curves: far less resemblance to the peaking growth curves. A confounder in this is that per-capita resource extraction has also risen for many materials, in association with economic growth..."

https://www.resilience.org/stories/2024-05-22/growth-or-scale/

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