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gnomelibre

@gnomelibre@mamot.fr

🇫🇷 Vieux gnome linuxien

#Fedora #GNOME #Linux #LogicielLibre

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John_Livingston, to random French
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Plus aucun des outils de capture d'écran que j'ai ne prend le curseur de la souris....

Pas pratique pour documenter une fonction de drag & drop... Je crois que je vais ajouter la curseur avec GIMP 🤣

gnomelibre,
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@John_Livingston @dimitri

Je viens de tester la capture d'écran et la capture vidéo sous Wayland avec GNOME 46 et j'ai bien le curseur dans les deux cas.

Par contre, il faut le demander. T'as une icône de curseur en bas à droite de l'outil de capture (raccourci clavier « p »).

BrodieOnLinux, to linux
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Who should be software packaging is a tough problem, I can see the value in distros pushing for better changes downstream, encouraging upstream to change (double click in ) but then I see cases like KeepassXC where the Debian package is now by default broken, actively damaging the reputation of upstream but then I remember where upstream was left unchecked and hid bad code in plain sight and I go back around in a circle.

gnomelibre,
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@BrodieOnLinux

Linux distributions should limit themselves to only offering an operating system and no longer deal with (graphical) user applications. Especially now that we have Flatpak.

This would give them more resources to increase the support life of their distributions, which would undoubtedly be much more useful.

AxelTerizaki, to linux French
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Je comprends pas comment quelqu'un a pu valider le fait que sous Linux avec wireplumber, les sorties audio se mettent en veille.

Du coup chaque fois qu'une notif doit arriver via une app, on entend même pas ou à peine la notif parce que le temps que l'audio se réactive et que le volume remonte (il commence à 0) ben on a loupé la notif.

Je sais, pas ça me sidère. C'est vraiment abhérrant comme comportement d'UX. Je croyais que c'était propre à Arch (je l'avais corrigé à l'époque de l'install) mais visiblement sur d'autres distros pareil.

gnomelibre,
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@AxelTerizaki

C'est peut-être une question d'économie d'énergie 🤔

Et je me demande s'il ne faudrait pas plutôt améliorer la situation du côté du système de notification. Il y a peut-être moyen de vérifier l'état de la sortie audio avant d'émettre la notification 🤔

chris, to linux
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For the folks: What am I missing?

I'm trying to save a web app in Epiphany in Ubuntu 24.04. (Epihpany and Gnome 46). I've tried both the Flatpak and Snap versions of the browser and nothing happens. It simply never creates the app. No errors, no nothing. Looked for bugs on it but didn't see anything reported. Anyone else seen this?

gnomelibre,
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@hirozed @chris

I've just tested the Flatpak version (Fedora 40 / GNOME 46) and I can create a web app without any problem. So I don't think sandboxing is the cause of the problem 🤔

sam, to GNOME
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Every now and then I think I should go back to using because it would be simpler than my own weird mix of Mate and i3 and look a lot nicer, and then I try one of their apps… I just tried out their official Markdown editor and it starts running noticeably slowly (menus don't respond, the rendering preview gets locked up, etc.). This is on a very fast laptop and this is just a text editor. This matches my previous experiences running gnome years ago. Maybe I'll go with something else…

gnomelibre,
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@sam

Apostrophe ?

Everything works wonderfully well on my end, but I have a relatively recent computer 🙂

https://apps.gnome.org/Apostrophe/

sebsauvage, to linux French
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J'ai mis une petite section pour résumer sur ce qu'il faut installer pour Wine et winetricks.
https://sebsauvage.net/wiki/doku.php?id=wine#installation_version_courte

Avec ça, je fais tourner plus de 80% des jeux Windows (hors de Steam).

gnomelibre,
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@sebsauvage

Ou alors, tu passes par Heroic Games Launcher et c'est encore plus simple. Et par la même occasion, ça évite d'effrayer inutilement les windowsiens qui seraient tentés par une potentielle migration…

https://heroicgameslauncher.com

fell, to linux
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I've been trying a few Linux distributions (openSUSE Tumbleweed, Fedora, Debian, Mint) and I noticed how freaking difficult it still is to install Wine and DXVK.

Come on! It's been how long? Most Windows refugees will want to install Wine. It should be as simple as:

  1. install wine package
  2. double click .exe file

No wonder people love Arch so much.

gnomelibre,
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@fell

Don't use Wine directly, but use Lutris or Heroic Games Launcher for games and Bottles for applications.

https://heroicgameslauncher.com
https://lutris.net
https://usebottles.com

gnomelibre, to GNOME
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Today, I had to fill in a #PDF form to send to my insurer. I opened it with #GNOME Document Viewer and filled in the various fields without any problem 🙂

Unfortunately, at the end of the document, we have to write our name and sign, but the application doesn't offer any options for adding text and inserting an image 😬

#Linux

gnomelibre,
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Since everyone praising the functional richness of applications, I decide to install . Except that it doesn't let you insert images either. No sooner installed than uninstalled ☹️

So I decided to try my luck directly with . And then, a miracle. It's only a web browser, but it allowed me to insert my signature with disconcerting ease. Thanks 🤗 💖

gnomelibre,
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In 2024, as more and more administrative procedures are carried out digitally, it would be nice if the core applications of the main Linux desktop environments could finally handle these situations properly 😕

dada, to ubuntu French
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24.04 LTS se profile comme une version majeure, le tour des nouveautés - https://next.ink/133266/ubuntu-24-04-lts-se-profile-comme-une-version-majeure-le-tour-des-nouveautes/

> Ubuntu est l’une de ces quelques distributions donnant le « la ». Bien qu’elle soit elle-même basée sur Debian, elle est reprise par de nombreux autres systèmes, dont Linux .

Hop, j'ai hâte de mettre la main dessus ! Est-ce que je vais réussir à attendre la 24.04.1 avant de craquer ? J'espère mais j'y crois pas trop 😆

gnomelibre,
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@dada

Ah, parce qu'il y a encore des gens impatients et excités par une pauvre Ubuntu ? C'est dingue 😕

bilbo_le_hobbit, to linux French
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Hello les fedigens ! Je m'adresse tout particulièrement aux . Je dois changer mon hdd de partitions de données, j'en profite pour faire une réinstallation totale. Fidèle à depuis 2007, je voudrais changer, j'aime pas snap et cie. Pour ne pas être trop dépaysé, je pensais à , ou , kekchose de solide, pas prise de tête, à jour, sous . Pour un laptop gamer de 10 ans d'âge. Usage : Steam, astrophoto, internet...
Votre avis, autre à conseiller ?

gnomelibre,
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@bilbo_le_hobbit

La meilleure distribution GNOME vanilla, c'est Fedora Workstation.

Pour un GNOME customisé (avec dock et autres changements pour faciliter la vie, comme peut le faire Ubuntu), t'as le projet Bluefin. Mais leur première version stable ne devrait arriver qu'après Fedora 40.

Debian reste également une valeur sûre.

Quant à KStars ce dernier étant disponible en Flatpak, peu importe ton choix, tu n'auras aucun souci à l'installer.

weirdwriter, to linux

Just waiting on a distro to become as accessible to non technical Blind users as Windows and iPhones and even Macs are to the Blind, and then I'll switch, because yikes. Link at end regarding this next Microsoft move. Until then, sorry Linux, you still fail at accessibility compared to Microsoft. It's a shame, too! https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/new-windows-driver-blocks-software-from-changing-default-web-browser/

gnomelibre,
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@techsinger @weirdwriter

Linux doesn't mean anything. There are many different desktop environments (GNOME, KDE, Pantheon, Mate, Budgie, Xfce...). Each will offer a different experience and more or less good accessibility, depending on its resources.

gnomelibre,
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@techsinger @weirdwriter

Not only does GNOME place great emphasis on accessibility, but because GNOME applications are so much simpler (unlike other desktop environments, there aren't numerous menus and sub-menus with thousands of options), I'm sure they're much easier to use for someone with a disability.

gnomelibre,
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@techsinger @weirdwriter

But I'm not blind, so I have no problem believing you. Nevertheless, I'd be curious to know a list of Windows' strong points. As well as the main problems GNOME might have (if you've tested Fedora or Ubuntu, it must have been GNOME).

gnomelibre,
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@anantagd @techsinger @weirdwriter

If you just say that's not accessible at all and that's not true, that doesn't help anyone. It demotivates developers, and means there will be fewer users, contributors, bug reports and suggestions for improvements.

gnomelibre,
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@anantagd @techsinger @weirdwriter

I've tested the problematic examples in the article and everything seems to work on my side (but not being blind myself, I may have missed the main point).

I just think it would be more constructive to acknowledge the progress and point out what's still a problem, what needs to be improved.

gnomelibre,
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@weirdwriter @anantagd @techsinger
@jorge

One of the advantages of free software is that you can do whatever you want with it, without depending on the goodwill of a company.

So it might be simpler and more efficient to create a new Fedora variant (with BlueBuild), where the screen reader would be activated by default, with better quality synthesized voices, and a list of applications with good accessibility pre-installed.

https://blue-build.org

gnomelibre,
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@weirdwriter @objectinspace @anantagd @techsinger @jorge

If free software is far behind, it's only because Microsoft has 166k employees and $211.9 billion in revenue, with an entire team dedicated to accessibility. They have a user feedback team and an army of developers to improve and fix what's wrong. Free software is a small handful of employees and volunteers.

gnomelibre,
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@weirdwriter @objectinspace @anantagd @techsinger @jorge

And you can blame me if you want, but at the start of the discussion, we had an assertion that free software was absolutely not accessible (without the slightest detail about what was wrong with it). After a few exchanges, I now have the impression that with a Linux distribution configured from the outset for the blind, the situation would be quite different.

gnomelibre,
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@weirdwriter @objectinspace @anantagd @techsinger @jorge

And again, this is free software and we clearly don't have the financial resources of Microsoft.

At some point, if you want things to improve, you have to contribute in one way or another (development, bug reporting, creation of a new specialized distribution, etc.).

gnomelibre,
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@weirdwriter @objectinspace @anantagd @techsinger @jorge

I'd like to apologize if I've come across as too harsh during the whole discussion (English not being my mother tongue doesn't help either). I was trying to understand what was wrong, in good faith.

gnomelibre,
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@anantagd @weirdwriter @objectinspace @techsinger @jorge

I still regret that we misunderstood each other to this extent, since although I have no disability, I would really and sincerely like free software to be perfectly accessible to everyone.

mkwadee, to linux
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Now running 6.8.4.

gnomelibre,
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@mkwadee

I bet you're a user 😸

nekohayo, to firefox
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Why does Mozilla default to allowing websites to use persistent storage, and thus consume gigabytes of disk space when few websites actually have legitimate reasons to use the StorageManager? Isn't that both an invitation to fill my disk and a / pitfall?

Seems like there's no UI to facilitate selectively cleaning this stuff, i.e. nuking the local storage for all websites "except these few websites" (and without touching cookies), nor do I see a way to require opt-in.

gnomelibre,
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@nekohayo

Dans Vie privée et sécurité, Cookies et données de sites, t'as une option Supprimer les cookies et les données des sites à la fermeture de Firefox, ainsi qu'une autre option pour gérer les exceptions, histoire de pouvoir garder cookies et données pour seulement quelques sites.

Ça ferait le job, non ? 🤔

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