adamjcook,

So, a couple of things here.

Firstly, we seem to be in some sort of arms race in " safety statements" nowadays.

Or more like a race to the bottom.

The continued perpetuation of the actually harmful Train aside... what is even the point of this?

They did not even bother to write a letter.

Secondly, very hard to take this statement seriously given that personalities like , Sam Harris, Chris Anderson and Grimes have signed it.

https://www.safe.ai/statement-on-ai-risk

CrackedWindscreen,
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@adamjcook Fridman signed this? Well, that has me CONVINCED.....it is utter bullsh%t then.

adamjcook,

@CrackedWindscreen Indeed.

And, in that vein, I will say it again... where were these same individuals when was using as a masquerade to wholesale and sloppily experiment on the public via its and programs?

I see that several signatories from are on here...

Hmm. Interesting.

I saw many of their DeepMind colleagues clapping like seals during Tesla's "AI Days" - farcical events that presented zero safety cases.

Zero introspection.

CrackedWindscreen,
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@adamjcook ah but all the grifters have to keep grifting. If you poiont out the flaw in one area it ALL falls down...

adamjcook,

@CrackedWindscreen If not a grift driven by some, then ignorance and arrogance that they use to justify experimenting on the public without any regard to its cost.

I too see effectively no difference.

Lots of hypocrites on that list and on the several lists of signatories that preceded it.

PeceK,

@adamjcook Excuse my ignorance but what's the connection with Chris Anderson to this? In the sense of, why is it looked at negatively that he signed this? I get the others, but I know Chris only from the TED conferences, which I enjoy (even if I don't agree with the viewpoint of all the talks I see).

adamjcook,

@PeceK As but one example, I can recall a Chris Anderson interview with that occurred not too long ago where Chris was effusive towards 's program - a program that utilizes to mask the underlying dangerousness of Tesla's conduct.

That should resonate here.

Lex Fridman does the same.

Ignorantly advancing lies and hype that have caused death and injury.

No, I do not expect to Chris realize that - but, because he does not, it is disqualifying.

PeceK,

@adamjcook Ah very interesting, thank you for the info! Yeah, Chris seemed very keen to get Musk interviewed several times over the years, I wonder if his view of him has changed since all his stupidity on twitter.

adamjcook,

@PeceK All of this said, while the few names I highlighted do not seem to have the "technical chops" at understanding these technologies... almost every single signatory to these various letters stayed silent (or applauded) while:

  1. and Andrej were engaged in these wrongdoings; and/or
  2. While Musk sent his cult to attack Professor Missy Cummings, a top researcher, who first raised these issues years ago.

There is some real hypocrisy here.

AJFish,

@adamjcook @PeceK has cost lives. I wrote about Walter Huang for my COVID newsletter, since select depleted hospital staff workers are now required to use and train , they get grant money in exchange for using it. And to use AI is to train AI. https://tracingcovid.substack.com/p/apple-engineer-walter-huangs-survivors

adamjcook,

@AJFish @PeceK Interesting thoughts!

"This fogs up jury deliberations over how we apportion accountability in civil society when things go wrong and people get hurt."

Astute observation.

I made a similar observation not too long ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/12udjwn/comment/jh7gyts/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

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