chrisoffner3d, to llm

“I think we will get the hallucination problem to a much, much better place,” Altman said. “I think it will take us a year and a half, two years. Something like that. But at that point we won’t still talk about these. There’s a balance between creativity and perfect accuracy, and the model will need to learn when you want one or the other.”

What is Altman is talking about? An has no notion of truth or accuracy, so you can't just dial up some "truth coefficient."

https://fortune.com/2023/08/01/can-ai-chatgpt-hallucinations-be-fixed-experts-doubt-altman-openai/

adamjcook,

@kentindell @chrisoffner3d In fact, I see quite a bit of similarities between what Chris has mentioned in the post cited below and the extremely dangerous assumptions that has been using to underpin their program - namely, the so-called "generalized self-driving" (no defined Operational Design Domain).

The Tesla Team has always embraced a very primitive safety strategy that they try to sell as "validation" - if I am being generous.

https://sigmoid.social/@chrisoffner3d/110846996819755228

adamjcook, to random

Another day, another extremely dangerous lie by that drives human driver complacency and that will result in completely avoidable death and injury.

vehicles, at no time, can “drive themselves”.

-active vehicles are not capable of “driving themselves”.

Quoting @adamjcook:

https://mastodon.social/@adamjcook/110769808250164660

adamjcook, to TeslaMotors

This is a lie. is lying here.

At no time, are vehicles capable of “driving themselves” - only capable of the illusion that they are, which Musk exploits.

This is a common Musk Lie, made in the interest of selling Tesla vehicles and pricey add-ons.

People have died under this lie and will continue to do so, completely avoidably.

Let’s explore the underlying foundations of this lie and why it is so dangerous.

🧵

adamjcook,

First off, let us look at ’s “official” statement, from their website, as to the true limitations of and the products.

Hmm. That does not sound like Tesla itself is confident that their vehicles can drive themselves at any time. 🤔

Because the vehicles cannot.

But and Tesla play this dangerous, deceptive mind game with the public - and it is indeed a mind game.

adamjcook,

Now, let’s look at the underlying part.

and -equipped vehicles are Level 2-capable vehicles - with the exact same limitations as many other vehicles on the market today.

Namely, the key limitation is that the human driver must remain the fallback for any dynamic driving task or vehicle failures at all times and under all conditions.

Effectively, that means that the human has the exact same control responsibilities between the two vehicles shown below.

adamjcook,

hand-waves this fact as well on their official Autopilot product website, as shown below.

That “relaxation”, that “workload reduction” you might feel when using or ?

Guess what that really is?

Complacency.

Deadly complacency.

And it strikes when you least expect it, when the vehicle suddenly encounters a failure and it takes you an additional second or three to regain situational and operational awareness.

Tesla washes its hands of that though.

adamjcook, to TeslaMotors

’s completely unsupported and unhinged promises of future therapies, treatments or prosthetic devices enabled by his firm and this ” humanoid robotics project is pretty damn disgusting.

A new, disgusting low.

Even relative to Tesla’s vast and wrongdoings, which is saying something.

This man lies like he breathes.

adamjcook, to TeslaMotors

’s completely unsupported and unhinged promises of future therapies, treatments or prosthetic devices enabled by his firm and this ” humanoid robotics project is pretty damn disgusting.

A new, disgusting low.

Even relative to Tesla’s vast and wrongdoings, which is saying something.

This man lies like he breathes.

Daojoan, to random
@Daojoan@mastodon.social avatar

What’s your favorite instance of a celebrity blocking you on Twitter?

Mine: When Marc Andreessen announced a fund for black founders and I pointed out he'd invested double the size of the fund in a single white founder's frying pan startup...

adamjcook,

@Daojoan briefly blocked me, as a matter of fact.

(Marc blocked me too, in response to his “It’s Time to Build” essay IIRC.)

This was back around 2016 when first really launched its wrongdoings. Musk was far less followed back then (and Twitter was far less “noisy”).

I think Musk was later forced (by court order?) to unblock a lot of people because he was routinely sharing investor information on his Twitter account - so he unblocked me at some point.

lolgop, to random
@lolgop@journa.host avatar

He broke the site, came up with a lie to explain why it's broke and the press was like, "Makes total sense!" https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/musks-twitter-rate-limits-could-undermine-new-ceo-ad-experts-say-2023-07-03/

adamjcook,

@lolgop Constantly. Constantly this is done.

It is beyond exhausting.

And it has actually proved to be extraordinarily dangerous when lies about the capabilities and availability of 's product, in particular.

The press often allows Wall Street analysts, that are not competent in systems, to advance Musk's dangerous lies.

The community has been battling this for years.

annmlipton, to random
@annmlipton@esq.social avatar
adamjcook,

@annmlipton And here is one of the chief reasons why the does not challenge a dead-obvious public safety catastrophe like ’s experiment.

They simply do not have to resources for a protracted legal battle with without sufficient political backing.

Musk will exhaust every avenue to maintain his wrongdoings and his future ability to expand them.

adamjcook, to twitter

So, if it was not the case before, now that seems to be walled off for good...

How can the and, say, The White House (as a two random examples) continue to remain solely on social media platforms that are inaccessible to millions of unregistered users?

Those exclusively on the , an open platform, are being actively denied public services, official policy announcements and timely emergency alerts.

Wondering if there is a legal argument here.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/30/23779764/twitter-blocks-unregistered-users-account-tweets

adamjcook, (edited )

Sure... I mean... to a certain degree... whatever.

is his platform now (and is being used to project his hateful ideology and to advance his political interests).

That is a given now.

But the lying with this man.

It is simply incredible.

I have been dealing with it for years with respect to 's program, but a chief executive that lies as much as , in operational control of several firms manufacturing safety-critical systems... it really makes one think.

adamjcook, to twitter

Interesting.

It appears that is now "locked down" such that one cannot even view Tweets or user accounts without logging in first.

Not sure if this is an intentional change on Twitter's part or if they just broke something.

adamjcook,

@hosford42 Indeed.

Still, there is still a fair amount of historical technical threads I liked to refer to once and a while on there.

And I also like to keep an eye on ’s wrongdoings via the clips that Tesla supporters post there.

Not a deal-breaker as nothing will ever compel me to rejoin Twitter, but a bit painful.

adamjcook, (edited ) to tesla

Oof.

What an absolute mess of a video from the Verge - and this mess has some dire public safety ramifications.

Not even sure where to begin, but let's look at a few things...

🧵👇

https://youtu.be/pUtJ8HPZRkw

adamjcook,

I suppose, first, it should be recognized that the design intent for vehicles (via the program) remains entirely unclear. himself has bounced all over the place in vaguely describing the ultimate capabilities of these vehicles, only to be contradicted by his own engineers in court.

Whereas with and vehicles, the design intent is clearly one which embraces a no human driver fallback requirement within a well-defined, limited Operational Design Domain (ODD).

adamjcook,

If you have followed my previous threads on the matter, I have spent months tearing down the " Safety Facade" that likes to portray.

Tesla is not maintaining a systems safety lifecycle with respect to their FSD Beta program.

And, per my Toots above, that fact can also be readily seen in the almost schizophrenic, covert vehicle hardware changes that Tesla has been forced to make over the years.

By my count, 3 or 4 major hardware changes since 2016 (when FSD Beta was announced).

adamjcook, to tesla

Caught this Twitter Space segment yesterday which puts a finer point on my Mastodon thread from yesterday: https://mastodon.social/@adamjcook/110616834664093201

Ross Gerber, a prominent investor and advocate that was featured in my previous thread is clearly angry that his -active vehicle was observed in displaying some highly-compromising behaviors.

This conversation is telling because we have really reached the "next stage" of this vast Tesla wrongdoing - organized collusion outside of Tesla.

A Twitter Spaces conversation from sometime on June 28th. The Twitter Space is entitled "Tesla Deep Dive". Ross Gerber is primarily speaking throughout the clip. At the end of the clip, the Spaces host, a Twitter user by the alias of Wolf, cuts in to presumably move the conversation into a different, less-heated area. Many other prominent Tesla online community members are shown in this Twitter Spaces room.

adamjcook,

Remember: YouTube videos and personal testimonials can never show positive safety progress in the context of a system.

Never.

Videos and personal testimonials can only display safety-related issues.

And even with organized efforts by many prominent "testers" in the community to only publish what they feel are the most visually-performant drives... I have never seen a video that did not contain serious safety-related issues (many which are "unseen").

adamjcook,

What do I mean by "unseen" issues?

Please consider reviewing another one of my past threads on that: https://mastodon.social/@adamjcook/110162950844417313

Such issues are firmly within the scope of 's responsibilities, whether Tesla wants to accept that or not.

And Tesla is completely (unquantifiably) blind to them given the conduct of this program.

adamjcook, (edited ) to chicago

I was at Pride all weekend while visiting with my wife (videos and photos soon!), so I missed this Drama concerning that erupted.

Ok.

Let us, again, all put on our hats and take a look at the situation here as I understand it.

Below is the video that kicked the beehive between Tesla defenders and detractors on "what really happened?".

This clearly chaotic video was taken from a larger drive sequence in which FSD Beta was active.

🧵👇

adamjcook,

The video above was extracted from the Tweet shown below.

If you do not know the players involved here...

Ross Gerber is the individual driving this vehicle. Ross is an ardent Tesla supporter, Tesla investor and a prominent voice within the Tesla Community.

Dan O'Dowd is the individual in the passenger seat. Dan is the creator of The Dawn Project which primarily targets Tesla's program in terms of what it perceives as its public safety issues.

adamjcook,

Alright. A few background notes.

With respect to systems, "positive assumptions of safety" are incompatible with the analysis of these systems - particularly by those outside of a systems safety lifecycle.

is included here as well since, per my previous threads on the matter, Tesla is not maintaining a systems safety lifecycle with their program.

The assumption must be made that the Tesla vehicle would have blown the stop sign.

Case closed on that.

adamjcook,

The other thing here is that Dan O'Dowd, as a individual that has claimed to be advocating for the public's safety, should not have participated in this -active drive.

There was no public safety upside here.

Zero.

None.

Only a downside.

The drive shown above revealed nothing that was not known before.

The program is unsafe because, at the very least, individuals like Ross Gerber are not under a well-maintained Safety Management System when operating these "test" vehicles.

adamjcook, (edited )

Now, after Dan O'Dowd published the above video, all kinds of vehicle owners are rushing to this exact same area in order to "test" it for themselves (to see if their vehicles attempt to run the same stop sign).

All that does is multiply the danger to the public.

And for what?

We already know, again, that the program is unsafe.

All this "testing" is pointless.

And dangerous!

adamjcook, (edited )

Here is what Ross (the driver of the -active vehicle) stated after Dan O'Dowd published this video clip.

This is exactly what I am talking about.

How can the vehicle be capable of "self-driving" if the human driver must remain the fallback at all times and under all circumstances?

Do people not understand the meaning of the word "self"?

Ross apparently does not.

So, this "test operator" cannot even define the capabilities of the vehicle that they are operating...🤔

adamjcook,

Frankly, all I hear from the various contortions of anyone defending or this -active vehicle is "blah, blah, blah".

I do not need a video to tell me that this program is unsafe.

It is unsafe - structurally and terminally.

adamjcook,

@MisterMadge The assumption that some in the pro- camp are making (the best that I understand it) is that:

  1. The -active vehicle would not have run the stop sign; and/or
  2. The white SUV already in the intersection "cut" the FSD Beta-active vehicle off which created an "artificial" disengagement.

If any assumption must be made here it is that the Tesla vehicle would have blown the stop sign and collided with the white SUV vehicle.

There is nothing else to go on.

adamjcook,

@MisterMadge @chemoelectric I did not mention it, but there is a case that must be made that if is willing to so brazenly engage in these uniquely extreme, overt wrongdoings that the systems safety of the entire vehicle lifecycle is in serious question.

The has visibility on none of it.

That should be recognized.

But separately, sure, per the effectively non-existent auto regulations in the US (and, largely, globally) - Tesla vehicles are allowed for sale and use.

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