helenczerski,
@helenczerski@fediscience.org avatar

I think I'm still in recovery from learning a few weeks ago that Canadian fossil fuel companies tell people that because it's "natural" gas that they produce, burning it can't hurt the environment. And people believe them. I sometimes wake up in the middle of the night, remember that and 🤯🤯🤯🤯

motomatters,
@motomatters@masto.ai avatar

@helenczerski "Did you know that our gas is organic? Well, the chemistry is organic..."

Eka_FOOF_A,
@Eka_FOOF_A@spacey.space avatar

@motomatters @helenczerski I'm stealing that one for my story.

benlindsay,
Muellers_Kabinett,
@Muellers_Kabinett@strafpla.net avatar

@helenczerski what's worse for you? The fact that the fossil fuel companies are liars or the fact that the people believing them can vote at elections and talk freely about their opinions?

niclas,
@niclas@angrytoday.com avatar

@helenczerski

Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore has some insights/opinions, if you can manage to watch a long talk. At least watch from 15:23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX1z_6pvM-Q

cliener,
@cliener@mastodon.social avatar
Runyan50,
@Runyan50@newsie.social avatar
MennoWolff,
@MennoWolff@ohai.social avatar

@helenczerski
Hey, Mr oil exec! Try these awesome super berries.
Yes they taste funny, but they are all natural
And, once you've eaten a handful, you'll never be hungry again, for the rest of your life.
Guaranteed

fixiemama,
@fixiemama@mastodon.social avatar

@helenczerski Oy vey that hurts my brain. It's sickening how far their influence reaches.

meraord,
@meraord@mastodonsweden.se avatar

@helenczerski People are stupid. It's sad, but true.

(botulinum toxin is also natural, and among the most potent toxins known to science... 4 kg's of it could wipe out the entirety of mankind (according to wikipedia))

JayBird76,
@JayBird76@mastodon.social avatar

@helenczerski They do that down here, too. Also, calling it "Natural Gas" instead of methane is supposed to make it sound better.

kentborg,

@helenczerski Arsenic, hurricanes, and venomous spiders are all also natural.

b4rt0s1k,

@helenczerski similar situation in Europe, “natural gas” = fossile, “biogas” = renewable gas, often made using food and other biological waste

mark,
@mark@mastodon.fixermark.com avatar

@helenczerski We really need to do something about the natural === good meme.

Lead is natural.

Arsenic is natural.

Lava is natural.

hegedusgergely,
@hegedusgergely@mastodon.social avatar

@helenczerski A certain youtube video came into my mind.

https://youtu.be/hX2aZUav-54?si=l6L_TRWXhjUM5uqD

mjc0961,

@helenczerski My favorite thing about natural gas is that it doesn't even have to be burned to hurt the environment. Just having it leak from pipelines into the atmosphere is damaging! And we're leaking so much that it's doing more damage than burning coal was doing.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hX2aZUav-54

phrees,
@phrees@mastodon.social avatar

@helenczerski If you want to dive deeper DeSmog tracks the networks that push that crap.

https://www.desmog.com

menelion,
@menelion@dragonscave.space avatar

@helenczerski I'll add more cringe: in Germany gas used to be (or maybe still is) considered as "green energy", so if you rent an appartment or choose a contract with an electrical company and they state "GREEEEN ENERGY!!!", it might be gas actually.

NJWookie,

@helenczerski

Wait until you find out that "Carbon Footprint" was created by oil industry marketing (BP in 2004) to shift the blame of the environmental impact from the fuel producers to the fuel consumers. A clever tactic to say "It's not our product that is bad it's that you peasants consume too much of it."

rmblaber1956,
@rmblaber1956@mastodon.social avatar

@helenczerski @junesim63 Oh, yes, everything "natural" is good, by definition! The fact that a substance has to be extracted from below the land-surface of the Earth, or from under the sea-bed, makes no difference, apparently. If fossil fuel firms were made to call "natural" gas methane instead, people might not be quite so easily conned.

tetranomos,
@tetranomos@mas.to avatar

@helenczerski if it's that easy i'm not surprised companies invest in jargon and philosophy to shut down most of the opposition before it builds up steam

mackaj,
@mackaj@mastodon.me.uk avatar

@helenczerski

That's got to be willful ignorance. People can't actually be that stupid, can they?🤦‍♂️

RhinosWorryMe,

@helenczerski

Refuse to call it that. It's "impure methane".

Or "corpse gas" if you're feeling spicy!

Npars01,
@Npars01@mstdn.social avatar

@helenczerski

"Natural Gas" is "Pollution Lite"

EricLawton,
@EricLawton@spore.social avatar

@helenczerski

All those forests that are burning are natural, too.

OTOH, cars are not.

edwiebe,
@edwiebe@mstdn.ca avatar

@helenczerski A billboard in my region. I’ve reported it to our Advertising Council and I expect they will agree that it’s false. That will take months.

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