They’ve recruited a lot of volunteers from various places around the world who could individually have some legal exposure I suppose but yes… It’s a bit disappointing overall.
Literally the best thing to do is spread the load and increase our diversity of instances and communities elsewhere other than one big one, to keep it sustainable.
lemm.ee, lemmy.ml, .cafe even all are calling for users. Use browser.feddit.de to find others.
I assume all instances have rules and how far out there you want to go is up to you. Someone says lemm.ee doesn’t block these sites but rule 2 of that site is No Illegal Content which could arguably cover piracy related groups. Doesn’t stop you just having an alt on the server hosting this stuff you want to look at however. Just be aware that if stuff is illegal and it’s illegal in the jurisdiction the server is hosted in then it’s unlikely to last long.
Fact is, they have good reasons to. Lemmy likely was threatened by a larger industry that could’ve thrown millions of dollars around in a court to get Lemmy taken down. The guys running Lemmy wouldn’t have enough money to win a lawsuit, the website could easily be taken down by a larger entity. When it comes to losing the community or blocking a couple communities, it’s an easy choice. In summary, they’re just trying to save the website by avoiding future lawsuits, and these communities still exist but can’t be accessed on Lemmy itself.
I guess the problem from an idealistic standpoint is fine, let them sue. Hosting an instance is not about being profitable. Do what you need to do as far as shell corporation and all that to protect your personal finances, or just close the instance instead of censoring. The community is just people who will find another instance, it’s not empowering to treat people like they will fall apart if you don’t submit to hegemony.
Now, it’s just an instance that is perpetuating unfair systems of power, instance of helping to democratize the internet.
I don’t care about the piracy community but people are complaining about they having to create multiple accounts and saying Lemmy will never reach critical mass like this…
But why would we want to reach critical mass? I don’t want to sound like a gatekeeper but growing just for the sake of growing is never been good on anything.
Specially as Lemmy is still an alpha software. And people are still figuring out how is the better way to moderate ourselves instead of waiting to Big Corpo to do so.
This is part of being an early adopter. You give feedback, sometimes things don’t go your way, other they hear you out.
I’m loving the experience so far. The Fediverse still is not mature enough (we block fast) but we are still figuring things out.
it’s unlikely for anything to be in a perfect balance, so if something doesn’t noticably grow, it’s likely that it’s shrinking (which of course is what kills online communites unless they are already large)
Good ridance! piracy jeopardizes the stability of !Lemmy.world If you want to be a pirate, do stupid illegal shit fine, but don’t drag everyone else with you
You can do it totally anonymously, you just need a server with docker that can’t be linked to you. There are many ways (legal or not) to acquire such server, and afterwards it’s simple.
Made a jump from Lemmy.world to Lemmy.zip for this reason. If they blocked the piracy community, what will they do next. I heard lemmy.zip is more of a democracy and they make changes by member votes, so naturally I joined them.
Love that someone made LASIM, just wish there was also a mobile workaround so I don’t have to use the laptop just to continue enjoying Lemmy every time something like this happens and I have to jump instances.
I want a tool that can do the same thing for whole communities. Seems like there might be a day where communities would like to migrate for one reason or another. While you could simply stand up a new community on the new instance and then attempt to get everyone to move over, that’s bound to fail if the community is large enough. It would be cool if subscribership would also be able to be moved in the back-end.
Nah it’s a pretty decent website for the price we pay to use it. You can just start up your own site with blackjack and hookers and pirates if you want.
Facilitating info to get pirated content isn’t illegal or punishable? i’ve seen sites get DMCA’s for featuring links even when the files aren’t hosted in that website
So can you talk about pirate-related stuff there? Is it all free and open or more of a wink-wink-nod-nod type of thing where you can’t talk about where pirate stuff comes from?
Based on their rules, they might ban content of that nature being talked about in their own communities. However they have a high bar for defederating from other instances. Even if piracy talk isn’t allowed on lemm.ee communities, they won’t defederate from communities that do allow it. This means you can still see it when browsing lemm.ee, but it’s hosted somewhere else.
What lemmy.world has done is make it so you can’t see anything from those piracy instances when browsing from Lemmy.world. lemm.ee will allow you to see almost anything besides truly disturbing and illegal stuff like porn of the underage variety.
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