MEGATHREAD Trump Disqualified from 2024 Election per Colorado Supreme Court

The Colorado Supreme Court is removing former President Donald Trump from the primary ballot, saying he is ineligible to be president.

In a stunning and unprecedented decision, the Colorado Supreme Court removed former President Donald Trump from the state’s 2024 ballot, ruling that he isn’t an eligible presidential candidate because of the 14th Amendment’s “insurrectionist ban.”

“Even when the siege on the Capitol was fully underway, he continued to support it by repeatedly demanding that Vice President (Mike) Pence refuse to perform his constitutional duty and by calling Senators to persuade them to stop the counting of electoral votes.

“President Trump’s direct and express efforts, over several months, exhorting his supporters to march to the Capitol to prevent what he falsely characterized as an alleged fraud on the people of this country were indisputably overt and voluntary.”

Ratified after the Civil War, the 14th Amendment says officials who take an oath to support the Constitution are banned from future office if they “engaged in insurrection.” But the wording is vague, it doesn’t explicitly mention the presidency, and has only been applied twice since 1919.

We have full confidence that the U.S. Supreme Court will quickly rule in our favor and finally put an end to these unAmerican lawsuits,” Trump campaign spokesperson Steven Cheung said in a statement.

Chief Justice Brian Boatright, one of the three dissenters on the seven-member court, wrote that he believes Colorado election law “was not enacted to decide whether a candidate engaged in insurrection,” and said he would have dismissed the challenge to Trump’s eligibility.

LINKS

AP: Colorado Supreme Court bans Trump from the state’s ballot under Constitution’s insurrection clause | @negativenull

Washington Post: Donald Trump is barred from Colorado’s 2024 primary ballot, the state Supreme Court rules | @silence7

CNBC: Colorado Supreme Court disqualifies Trump from 2024 ballot, pauses ruling to allow appeal | @return2ozma

NBC News: Colorado Supreme Court kicks Donald Trump off the state’s 2024 ballot for violating the U.S. Constitution. | 18-24-61-B-17-17-4

CNN: Colorado Supreme Court removes Trump from 2024 ballot | A Phlaming Phoenix

CNN:Colorado Supreme Court removes Trump from 2024 ballot based on 14th Amendment’s ‘insurrectionist ban’ | @Boddhisatva

New York Times: Trump Is Disqualified From the 2024 Ballot, Colorado Supreme Court Rules | @silence7

mindbleach,

stunning and unprecedented decision

Really?

Really?

Are you sure?

Do you not think it’s exactly what should happen, when there’s a failed coup d’etat? Is this not the bare minimum punishment for someone who tried to overthrow American democracy? Because he’s not the first to do it, and most people got a lot worse.

Or are we still acting surprised when The Idiot’s actions have consequences?

Veedem,
@Veedem@lemmy.world avatar

Supreme Court still has a chance to overturn this, if I had to guess. I’m sure it’ll be appealed rather quickly.

Maeve,

Yeah. They can refuse to hear, or strike down. Let us hope for the best possible outcome.

ivanafterall,
ivanafterall avatar

I'm trying to hope.

gullible,

Definitely. And I’m certain that the Supreme Court, a politically agnostic place, will definitely stick to their intended purpose and offer their opinion exclusively in regard to constitutionality, right?

Relatedly, what would happen if they just told the Supreme Court to shove it and didn’t put captain casinobuster on the ticket? What’s their enforcement?

shalafi,

SCOTUS has already declined to hear Trump election bullshit. They told Alabama to get bent on voting fuckery.

You may not like their decisions, but they are conservative, not partisan. They owe Trump jack shit.

mindbleach,

they are conservative, not partisan.

And I’m the sultan of Brunei.

Maeve,

I’d like to hear a seasoned con law professional tell us.

silence7,

Here’s a gift link for The New York Times coverage if you want to include that at the top.

YoBuckStopsHere,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

Will do

Nougat,

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24233452/colorado-ruling.pdf

https://kbin.social/m/OriginalDocuments/t/713941/The-Supreme-Court-of-the-State-of-Colorado-Order-Affirmed

drascus,

This is sort of an interesting article. It seems like ( unlike what I thought ) the Supreme court might not have much it could even do to overturn the situation: www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/…/ar-AA1m1hit

YoBuckStopsHere,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

The Supreme Court would cause so many problems if it acted.

Tom_Hanx_Hail_Satan,
@Tom_Hanx_Hail_Satan@lemmy.ca avatar

I’ve been too busy to follow news super closely lately. Curious what others think about how this will effect down ballot issues. If this holds and other blue states do the same for the general election it could definitely effect some purple districts and have a seismic shift in congress. I can’t remember which senate seats are up in 2024 also. If anyone has articles or insight on that I’d appreciate it.

sagrotan,
@sagrotan@lemmy.world avatar

I cannot understand why this psychopath isn’t in jail yet, I mean, I know the cause, money, but I don’t know the reason. Do you know his father? Search it, it’s a fun read for days when you feel you like mankind too much.

Uglyhead, (edited )
@Uglyhead@lemmy.world avatar

Post the song written about his father the slumlord! Lemme see if I can find it here…

One rendition: youtu.be/YVQMqHfAia0?si=M2sDSWpABzIg8s69

mydude,

Wow, so the usa used to have the illusion of choice (the choice between two shits), but now they don’t even have that. Now they need to eat the shit that is served up to them by their owner-class. Yikes… I truly feel sorry for you guys…

YoBuckStopsHere,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

This is a eligibility requirement, like age and naturally born citizen. It prevents traitors from becoming President. That was always the intention.

RickyRigatoni,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

Can we write an exception to the natural born clause for arnold?

DragonTypeWyvern,

You want Elon 2028?

Because that’s how you get Elon 2028.

RickyRigatoni,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

He’s not arnold

DragonTypeWyvern,

You’ll find that billionaires in America tend to be pretty good at getting themselves added to lists of exceptions.

bossa_super_nova,

The Republican party can run any eligible candidate they want.

There aren’t fewer choices, this hasn’t changed anything. They removed an ineligible guy, sure, but there are plenty of eligible Republicans, right? …right?

mydude,

I hope they recruit Joe Rogan, even though he’s not a republican, that would be fun.

USAONE,

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    rickdg,
    @rickdg@lemmy.world avatar

    Add another ticking time bomb to the pile of proceedings Trump has been managing for decades. I hear that karma eventually catches up to you, but he certainly hasn’t.

    ThatFembyWho,

    Well everything about that clown’s term was unprecedented, and not in a good way, and he continues to be a national embarrassment. So it’s long past time for some unprecedented decisions

    DragonTypeWyvern,

    Not unprecedented, there were in fact quite a lot of precedents after the First Civil War.

    bossa_super_nova,

    I think we need to start using the term “unpresidented” for Trump…

    MacNCheezus,
    @MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

    So this is how democracy dies, with thunderous applause.

    Thteven,
    @Thteven@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes, there were lots of applause on January 6th, 2021.

    MacNCheezus,
    @MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

    Did democracy in fact die that day?

    duplexsystem,

    Well Trump and Co certainly fucking tried.

    Transtronaut,

    I don’t know if you’re being deliberately ironic, but it’s hilarious either way.

    h3mlocke,

    😭

    BigMacHole,

    Why are people complaining that Colorado is blue so it doesn’t matter that someone FINALLY upheld the Constitution?

    Zevlen,

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    TheLowestStone,
    @TheLowestStone@lemmy.world avatar

    Trump is highly unlikely to win in Colorado because the state heavily leans left.

    Cort,

    Sure, but this case is about the Republican primary ballot, which only Republicans vote on. If he’s not on this ballot I could hurt his chances of getting the nomination.

    This post should not be confused with an endorsement to trump

    Corigan,

    Read the 14 amendment

    BigMacHole,

    Colorado won’t vote for Trump so whether or not he’s on the ballot doesn’t matter and for some reason that means we SHOULDN’T uphold the 14th Amendment for some reason?

    PM_Your_Nudes_Please,

    And this is for the primary, (where he’s only running against other republicans,) so the state’s swing doesn’t actually matter. This is losing him republican voters regardless of which state he’s in, because it’s an entire state where he can’t get votes in the primaries.

    Stern,
    @Stern@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ll take the W’s where I can get them but Colorado has voted blue in the past 4 elections and I don’t see that swinging back anytime soon, so ultimately not a game changer there.

    Hoping it inspires some folks in other states to file cases though.

    Shadywack,
    @Shadywack@lemmy.world avatar

    Very true, the western slope can be as salty as it wants, Colorado carries blue by a huge margin. This is non-news. Where this would be big is a neighboring state like Utah or Kansas.

    Anti_Face_Weapon,

    It’s news in the sense that it’s a historic event, the first of it’s kind no less, and that it may be taken up by the Supreme Court.

    In other words it’s not non-news. It may not change the election (unless other states follow suit) but it’s certainly important and worth attention.

    Shadywack,
    @Shadywack@lemmy.world avatar

    Very fair point, if one state does it, then 15 other states as well, it would certainly do a lot to curb his overall turnout numbers and create a large amount of negative momentum for his campaign. I hadn’t thought of it that way, I just hope it’s enough to kill his ability to win electoral college votes from other states that keep him on.

    AA5B,

    I’ll take it as a huge win, even if it doesn’t affect electoral college.

    The win is that someone enforced the Constitution. I’m sure this will get appealed and it’s a natural for the Supreme Court to take up (even if too late for this election). One of the issues with this approach is that it was never clearly spelled out, there are no specific standards, there is no precedent . Even if the Supremes rule that violating the Constitution is ok, they’ll have to give a reason, establish a standard to be met. It’s slow and ugly progress but it’s progress toward holding future Putinistas accountable. Even a loss in this specific case could be a win for the future

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