Jim Jordan Spirals When Asked About Losing His Star Biden Witness

House Judiciary Chair Jim Jordan is desperately trying to spin the damning news on ex–FBI informant Alexander Smirnov.

Representative Jim Jordan seems to be struggling with the realization that Republicans’ impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden appears to be founded on a bed of lies peddled by the Russian government.

On Wednesday, the Ohio Republican got caught up in his own words, insisting that the inquiry still had merit, despite the Justice Department indictment against its primary witness, Alexander Smirnov.

“You said the 1023 is the most corroborating piece of information you have,” CNN’s Manu Raju prompted the Freedom Caucus politician on Wednesday, referring to the FBI’s FD-1023 form that documents Smirnov’s claims, which he is now accused of completely making up. In December, Jordan claimed the 1023 form constituted the “key” impeachable offense.

“It corroborates but it doesn’t change the fundamental facts,” Jordan responded, trying to flip the script and maintain that Biden was still involved in his son’s business dealings during his vice presidency.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Representative Jim Jordan seems to be struggling with the realization that Republicans’ impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden appears to be founded on a bed of lies peddled by the Russian government.

Implying he didn’t already know…

CharlesDarwin,
@CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world avatar

These are the same lying liars that go on about how cons are being “censored” and “cancelled” on social media, and that they have to repeal Section 230 because of their feels, in spite of all evidence to the contrary about how FB, Twitter, Youtube, actually help to promote right wing extremism instead of bothering to police hate speech meaningfully.

Infynis,
@Infynis@midwest.social avatar

He’s struggling with other people realizing

nickhammes,

Either he knew, incompetently didn’t know, or didn’t care. (Or some combination of these.) I’m not sure which is worst for him.

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

I give it fifty-fifty odds he’s just that incompetent.

I’m not sure which is worse, to be honest.

theotherone,
theotherone avatar

He just ignores facts that don’t agree with the conclusions he’s already made. His time ignoring the criminal sexual abuse in his previous career has paid dividends.

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

yup. there’s two alternatives: he knew it was bullshit, and his ignorance was willful, or he didn’t know and he’s fucking incompetent.

it comes down to: did he do due diligence on the whistleblower to check his sources credibility? it fits his narrative, so it’s running, but competent assholes do damage control preemptively.

Rapidcreek,

Gotta be my favorite of the day…

RAJU: You said the 1023 [which included the false claims] is the most corroborating piece of information.

JORDAN: It corroborates, but it doesn’t change those fundamental facts.

RAJU: But it’s not true.

See, in GOP politics, truth is optional.

sndmn,

Hunter Biden would make a much better president than Cheeto Benito.

ShittyBeatlesFCPres,

The devious Russian plan to make Hunter Biden look like a 1980’s beer commercial character. Americans famously hate it when you snap your fingers and the Swedish bikini team shows up and your dog is wearing sunglasses and a Hawaiian shirt.

ShittyBeatlesFCPres,

The backlash to that era was the best beer commercials: youtu.be/kLl5y9RZI7c?si=_UqaS59r0ocatm9O

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Another good one:

youtu.be/JU-_Sn2cDwI

DarkGamer,
DarkGamer avatar

Republicans love manufacturing a narrative/case based on one person's (falsified) account. They did it with Saddam's WMDs, they did it with their false 2020 election claims, (the 'kraken,') and they're doing it with this Hunter Biden BS.

FenrirIII,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t forget their ‘buttery males’ debacle

JeeBaiChow,

Projection. I guaran-fucking-tee they are doing the same things they accuse the Dems of doing.

Ghyste,

Republicans have never heard a conspiracy theory they didn’t like.

Wrench,

And the Clinton emails, meanwhile they don’t give a shit about their God deliberately taking and hiding boxes of classified secrets to sell off to foreign powers.

thallamabond,

Don’t forget the other Clinton.

The Whitewater investigation, en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_controversy

They dragged everyone and everything into this crap, until finally Bill lied about getting head and they impeached him for it

Cyberflunk,

Fuck him and every Republican

dangblingus,

Hey this is the guy that intentionally obscured sexual assault reports and shielded his coworkers from being investigated for rape, right?

ArtVandelay,
@ArtVandelay@lemmy.world avatar

Good ol Gym Jordan

JeeBaiChow,

They should hold them accountsble, like falsely accusing someone of sexual assault.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

“You said the 1023 is the most corroborating piece of information you have,”

“It corroborates but it doesn’t change the fundamental facts,”

No, that’s NOT what an FD-1023 does…

socxfbi.org/…/Message-from-the-FBI-on-the-FD-1023…

“the FD-1023 is the form our special agents use to record raw, unverified reporting from confidential human sources (CHSs). FD-1023s merely document that information; they do not reflect the conclusions of investigators based on a fuller context or understanding. Recording this information does not validate it, establish its credibility, or weigh it against other information known or developed by the FBI in our investigations.

It’s the federal form equivalent of “Some… body once told me…”

CharlesDarwin,
@CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world avatar

What is ol Gym Jordan gonna do now?

marx2k,

Jim Jordan Spirals When Asked About Losing His Star Biden witness

Article is literally a single sentence from Jordan.

Thanks for wasting my time

Che_Donkey,
@Che_Donkey@lemmy.ml avatar

“marx2k SLAMS article”

Am I doing this right?

marx2k,

I pounced, actually

Localhorst86,

No.

“Find out why there is a MASSIVE backlash about this article”

los_chill,

“Readers hate this one article!!!”

BackOnMyBS,
@BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world avatar

Lemmy Users Decry Hyperbolic News Article Titles in New Wave of Anti-Media Action

Habahnow,

This article is trash, but necessarily for the reason you stated: there’s a video that shows when jim jordan was asked the question. I wouldn’t say he fumbles at all, he lists several reasons why the impeachment should continue. Whether or not their true and a sufficient reason to go along with the impeachment is another question, but I don’t think I’d describe him as fumbling.

rhythmisaprancer,
rhythmisaprancer avatar

Well spiraling is basically a wrestling move...

Beefytootz,

Are we just going to gloss over the fact that the FBI informant accused of working with the Russians is named Alexander Smirnov?? Like the vodka? I get that this is unfortunately real life, but the script writers are getting lazy

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

No, it’s Smirnov, like the comedian.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

In Soviet Russia vodka impeaches you!

jaybone,

In Soviet Russia, Peaches pees on you.

Late2TheParty,
@Late2TheParty@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you for reminding me of him! I’m gonna go watch something with him in it.

RagingSnarkasm,

In Soviet Russia, Smirnoff watches YOU!

Albbi,

He was just on my favourite podcast as a contestant! It’s a podcast where famous people geek out over things outside their field of work. It’s very refreshing and Yakov was an amazing contestant.

maximumfun.org/…/ep-139-yakov-smirnoff-salamishah…

Late2TheParty,
@Late2TheParty@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks for the great recommendation!

solomon42069,

The Republican party are traitors to the United States and the western world.

Passerby6497,

Jordan claimed the 1023 form constituted the “key” impeachable offense.

“It corroborates but it doesn’t change the fundamental facts,” Jordan responded, trying to flip the script and maintain that Biden was still involved in his son’s business dealings during his vice presidency.

Hmmmmm, what ever is a FD-1023?

An FD-1023 (CHS Reporting Document) is the form FBI agents use to record raw, unverified reporting from confidential human sources. FD-1023s merely document that information; they do not reflect the conclusions of investigators based on a fuller context or understanding. Recording this information does not validate it, establish its credibility, or weigh it against other information known or developed by the FBI in our investigations.

Huh, looks like “key” impeachable offense is worthless, unverified information. Who could have ever seen this coming?

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