You literally can't, not if you want Fediverse & decentralisation to succeed.
Can't cheerlead federation from a place that defederates on a whim like a little village instance.
An intended flagship instance needs proper investigation, communication, & extensive negotiation policy before it cuts 70,000 queer, trans, progressive, allies etc out of it's network.
That's how Fedi dream dies & communities are harmed, depriving them of 70k support based on unsubstantiated sketchy info.
Yes it's better to always investigate and confirm and communicate and also negotiate. Before blocking 70k of the people trying to get this place to succeed.
Not a great episode all around.
Major nodes have a responsibility to the health & viability of the whole network. They must act like it.
Good to hear that you are now talking to the other instance and consider re-federation. Disappointing that these conversations didn't take place before the block was imposed.
It also seems that the decision was based on second-hand information, not on reports from calckey.social users.
If the current block actually is a new block. I am still not sure whether calckey.social ever revoked the block from last November, as others did.
@the_roamer@ArtBear@wild1145 Let me give you context. For two weeks in March, I was on vacation. During that time @kainoa was the sole mod on calckey.social. The server only had 200 accounts and was not the flagship #Calckey instance. He received two reports, didn’t hear back, and made the best decision he could at the time—with the information he had. A month later, things change and we re-assess.
@the_roamer@ArtBear@wild1145@kainoa Here’s the other thing. Nobody could have predicted what happened with calckey.social. It went from being my side project to being a major concern very, very quickly. So no, there was no big conversations with other server admins because it wasn’t even a blip on the radar until recently.
Moderation is an impossible job. With every decision, there will be unhappy parties, and occasionally a decision will be wrong. We need moderators, and I for one am grateful to those who are willing to do the work.
What matters is that mistakes, if they do happen, are noted and lessons are learned.
It seems that the current case has led calckey to a review of its moderation processes. A constructive outcome, and good news for a federated network.
For Fediverse to work the major instances can't have the nuclear option of getting blocked deployed without communication & negotiation.
Tiny instances can do what they like but flagship instances have to stay linked, and talk to each other and not block/defed, especially not based on sketchy single sourced misunderstandings.
@rymecity All of your basic text content of your posts will migrate over, but not everything else. Your boosts, likes, and attached media on posts (images, video, audio) aren't going to port over as of right now. They are looking into it, but not there yet.
@luckysitsinback You'll still see me on Mastodon. Because both Mastodon and Calckey use ActivityPub, the two software talk to each other. That means, you will receive all of my posts from Calckey should I migrate there.
@atomicpoet You should. It will force you to use Calckey as your primary interface and will inform your recommendations and influence regarding the functionality and evolution of the Calckey user experience.
I don't want to dump on mastodon at all here, but calckey is what I imagined the fediverse microblogging platforms to be like before I checked them/mastodon out.
It's what you'd expect from OSS social media, right? Features, options, hackability, and fun.
Again, not to be critical, but mastodon feels like it's coming from a different place.
@maegul@riley@atomicpoet i dunno. my new calckey account sucks ass, i get constant generic error messages, and the site doesn’t display properly in safari on ipad. feels like zeta instead of beta. i can’t think of a worse user interface experience
@maegul@riley@atomicpoet Problem with Mastodon is as Gargon (Eugen Rochko) said : “Fun is not allowed”
It was his reaction IIRC to Pleroma avatar ear function
On the other, antennas, groups, channels, pages, MFM and theme customisation produce a rather different product, as well as a look, feel and vibe, which is probably easy to underestimate in social media as it's the "set and setting" of the content/interaction that is otherwise identical across platforms.
That makes lots of sense! And happy chatting from my end too!
Coming from instagram is interesting. Never used it but my impression is it's nicely minimalist in which case Mastodon makes sense as a nice fit! Tried #Pixelfed? (insta clone). It seems to be growing nicely and from what I've heard it works well with mastodon.
I hear you and I wish they could combine the best of both worlds.
The first wart I noticed on Calckey is no edit feature. And it has some rough edges. It won't stay in dark mode when I re-open it. And I have had it "forget" some other settings.
But they (Mastodon and Calckey) are both amazing products.
@atomicpoet circling back on this does calckey have cool inside jokes or is it the same as other mastodon instances in that its just facebook / linkedin lmao
@atomicpoet Does the migration work similarly from mastodon to calckey than mastodon instance to another or is there something that it's not sending trough or is it just redirection that does not send the followers to the new calckey instance? 🤔
@atomicpoet@shadowtux is that actually released? I thought work was being done but its not like anyone can just click migrate posts and have it work rn right?
@atomicpoet I am quite comfortable with my home here, but I voted Yes because you seem to be pretty enthusiastic about it, and I think a diverse fediverse software environment is healthy for the network.
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