liaizon, (edited )
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

Meta/Threads/Facebook/Instagram has made their own symbol for the fediverse, so we better have a good argument for why this is not representative of us because we are quickly gonna see a lot of this icon...

eniuu,
@eniuu@pol.social avatar

@liaizon I fixed it

argumento,
@argumento@hispagatos.space avatar

@eniuu @liaizon

I see your smile and I raise you a clown nose and wig.

rysiek,
@rysiek@mstdn.social avatar

@liaizon I think we should maybe finally try to define what fedi is. Because we really don't have a serviceable definition. Which makes stuff like that even more problematic.

djsundog,
@djsundog@toot-lab.reclaim.technology avatar

@liaizon we live in the 21st century, and have colors.

They have plenty to choose from, handily hosted at wikimedia: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Fediverse_logos :blobtongue:​

Rairii,

@liaizon ...goatse?!?!?!?!

djsundog,
@djsundog@toot-lab.reclaim.technology avatar

@Rairii @liaizon hard to not see it once it is seen, so yeah

chillicampari,
@chillicampari@layer8.space avatar

@djsundog @Rairii @liaizon yes, this is goatse.

whitneymcn,
@whitneymcn@mastodon.xyz avatar

@chillicampari @djsundog @Rairii @liaizon I guess every generation on the internet must find their own goatse?

chillicampari,
@chillicampari@layer8.space avatar

@whitneymcn @djsundog @Rairii @liaizon given enough time, enough people and enough graphical editing tools...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borel%E2%80%93Cantelli_lemma

onepict,
@onepict@chaos.social avatar

@djsundog @Rairii @liaizon

I agree, you can't unsee that 🤣

onepict,
@onepict@chaos.social avatar

@djsundog @Rairii @liaizon In effect the internet has gone full circle.

chillicampari,
@chillicampari@layer8.space avatar

@onepict @djsundog @Rairii @liaizon Our cultural legacy.

tournesol,
@tournesol@peculiar.florist avatar

@Rairii @liaizon this is troubling that I can’t unsee it now ​:cursed_laugh:​

onepict,
@onepict@chaos.social avatar
onepict,
@onepict@chaos.social avatar

@Rairii @liaizon You know much like the white horse chalk carving created the idea of a horse to its essentials.

Facebooks icon of the fediverse captures the essence of the rickroll before the rickroll.

A perfect circle if you will.

dentangle,
@dentangle@chaos.social avatar

@onepict @Rairii @liaizon Vorsprung durch Goatse?

nclm,
@nclm@mastodon.social avatar

@liaizon I’m still thinking about the ⁂ idea from time to time, would maybe be a good time to communicate about it, make a little webpage, etc? /cc @raphael – Or at least make a one colour simpler version of the defacto pentagon symbol.

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

@nclm @raphael so glad to see you bring this up. It's been on my mind too. We mocked up a website idea for this ages ago but nothing ever got launched. Maybe this is a good reason to jump start that initiative

raphael,
@raphael@post.lurk.org avatar
liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

@raphael @nclm oh shit this is still so good. OK lets finish this! is this already on a git repo? do you use codeberg?

raphael,
@raphael@post.lurk.org avatar

@liaizon @nclm no it is currently on my code notebook Stolon http://stolon.raphaelbastide.com/fediverse

raphael,
@raphael@post.lurk.org avatar

@liaizon @nclm I don’t use codeberg yet but feel free to take it there

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

@raphael @nclm do you already use a git repo somewhere? would like to put it somewhere you would be willing to use too

raphael,
@raphael@post.lurk.org avatar

@liaizon @nclm I am on public gitlab. I can create a repo there if you want and give you guys full access.

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

@raphael @nclm would be lovely!

raphael,
@raphael@post.lurk.org avatar

@liaizon @nclm letsgo. I would need your handles.

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

@raphael @nclm https://gitlab.com/wakest if you are referring to that instance

nclm,
@nclm@mastodon.social avatar

@raphael @liaizon

Wow this is exactly what we need!!

What I would suggest is:
– Maybe focus on the symbol and therefore not have a detailed list of Fediverse server types? But there could be a “what is the Fediverse” section.
– Maybe two text sections for the symbol, “why a symbol” and “why this symbol” (not the titles, just what the content could be about).
– A section with badges/buttons/icons to download.

Then it’s ready to go??

nclm,
@nclm@mastodon.social avatar

@raphael @liaizon

We could also create an fediverse account to share all of this. With maybe the symbol in different styles/fonts every once in while, new badges/buttons, symbol spotted in the wild, etc.

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

@nclm @raphael would you be interested in helping with that? are you on Matrix?

lufthans,
@lufthans@mastodon.social avatar

@liaizon looks like a clown laughing at us

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

@lufthans it is indeed a clown laughing at us

shalien,
@shalien@projetretro.io avatar

@liaizon I don't say it look like the sport ball symbol. BUT....

Tak,
@Tak@glitch.taks.garden avatar

@liaizon this is just a boneless instagram logo

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

@Tak lol thats the best description

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

some of the launched uses of this icon shared by @chrismessina (over on threads @chris)

via https://www.threads.net/@chris/post/C4y6Tgev852

semitones,
@semitones@tiny.tilde.website avatar

@liaizon @chrismessina I don't see any of the hot takes...? Are they all on threads?

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

@semitones no they are here, load this page (https://social.wake.st/@liaizon/112135636517764390) from outside your instance (like in a web browser or a fedi client that supports that like @phanpy )

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

the image I posted above was also from @chris https://www.threads.net/@chris/post/C3lyQ_yROLV

I had discovered it from reading the Instagram (hosted) Threads documentation https://help.instagram.com/760878905943039 and then went to search if anyone had talked about it.

ilovecomputers,
@ilovecomputers@xoxo.zone avatar

@liaizon so this is the most it interacts with the Fedi? Just shows you how many people liked your post, but doesn’t say who exactly? And you also can’t see replies from the Fedi?

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

@ilovecomputers yep lol. its very shitty so far

indieterminacy,

@liaizon It mercantilist dribble, with two guards protecting a walled enclosure.

nemobis,
@nemobis@mamot.fr avatar

@liaizon What is it supposed to represent? A circular walled garden with a second fence with two gates?

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

@nemobis yes

slim,
@slim@mastodon.tn avatar

@liaizon unless it is encumbered with a trademark, this is actually a great design and we should adopt it

inderix,

@slim @liaizon I refuse to have the logo representing the entire fediverse be such a dry design invented by the same corporate scum who utilize their own userbase as nothing but datapoints and money.
The fediverse icon that's currently accepted is significantly more representative of not only the federation system, but of the people on it with the colors representing diversity.

Trademark or otherwise, it's encumbered with the corporate appearance. This place was created from people who were tired of centralized social media and the corpos behind it, adopting corpos into the fediverse would be an undoing of this.

forteller,
@forteller@tutoteket.no avatar

@liaizon I have a good argument: We already got an icon, thankyouverymuch

Jessica,
@Jessica@kitsunes.club avatar

@liaizon that ain't a logo that's a fucken circle
miss me with that dumb shit

matt,
@matt@oslo.town avatar

@liaizon It represents how they see the Fediverse. They are the inner circle and everything else is outside and disconnected, but can look in to their closed network.

deadsuperhero,
@deadsuperhero@social.wedistribute.org avatar

@liaizon I still have so many mixed feelings on this icon.

I still prefer the connected pentagram over almost anything else.

brennen,
@brennen@federation.p1k3.com avatar

@liaizon add some color and it looks like a clown nose sort of situation.

ButterflyOfFire,
@ButterflyOfFire@mstdn.fr avatar
Moon,
@Moon@shitposter.club avatar

@liaizon I like it better than the rainbow pentagon tbh

a1ba,
@a1ba@suya.place avatar

@Moon @liaizon rainbow pentagon >>>>> any fedi logo tbh

Moon,
@Moon@shitposter.club avatar

@a1ba @liaizon imo there's no good one yet.

a1ba,
@a1ba@suya.place avatar

@Moon @liaizon as for "no good one yet" and I guess implied "let's make another one".

That's called bikeshedding. There are so much unresolved problems in Fediverse, like the recent stupid spam wave, yet some people think the logo is the biggest one.

Moon,
@Moon@shitposter.club avatar

@a1ba @liaizon there's no technical or marketing obstacle to trying to make new logos forever and see if one sticks better and no one is in charge of the fediverse yet so the main problem with my complaining is that I'm not proposing better ones. I'll endeavor to do better.

a1ba,
@a1ba@suya.place avatar

@Moon @liaizon sure, you have your right to complain. And so I can just disagree with your opinion. =/

Moon,
@Moon@shitposter.club avatar

@a1ba @liaizon the fediverse is great because we can still basically get along even if we disagree on a logo.

georgia,

@Moon @liaizon i hate it i like the rainbow pentagon. it even looks like it describes instances revolving around threads instead of being peer to peer.

Moon,
@Moon@shitposter.club avatar

@georgia @liaizon the rainbow pentagon is so generic and boring

animeirl,
@animeirl@shitposter.club avatar

@Moon @georgia @liaizon the rainbow pentagon is very "OSS" (made by someone with absolutely zero design experience)

georgia,

@Moon @liaizon it's cute

lanodan,
@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me avatar

@georgia @Moon @liaizon This logo reminds me of the Apple Park, which is literally a closed garden.

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