@BrianJopek a teacher told me this story:
Here in Brazil, conservatives were in a tizzy about a book they claimed was teaching kids to be gay or something. One guy went to his son's school, marched into the library and demanded to know if they had that book.
The librarian said "Oh, don't worry, your son never stepped into the library."
@BrianJopek this is not funny, it's literally what my sister (middle school teacher) said to me once: if I can then to wash behind their ears once a week, I collapse that a win
@BrianJopek As a college teacher, I beg beg beg all high school teachers, please ban all screens in class so by the time they get to me doing so doesn't feel like an authoritarian imposition.
@ntnsndr The high school here is implementing a policy starting in the 2024-24 school year that would have students leaving their phones in their locker or their vehicle or at home. At least one of the K-12 school districts in the area implemented a “stashed bell to bell” type policy in the past couple years.
We don't ban them at our school. Students may use phones in certain hallways and spaces. Phones should not be visible or heard in classrooms except during club hours.
The middle school kids struggle a little to adapt, but I think that's part of what we are teaching them eg. when it is rude to have your phone out. Middle school students can lose the privilege of having their phone in their bag for a week if they mess up. Then it goes in the phone cubby.
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when I worked in Silly Con Valley, I'd put my phones in airplane mode when I was in meetings. Then I got in trouble for putting my work phone in airplane mode "too much".
@futurebird@gwcoffey@ntnsndr It remains to be seen here how it will go over at the high school here - it’s something administration went over with the school board at one of its recent meetings.
I think it's important to, when possible, give young people the opportunity to learn how to manage temptations properly rather than just banning them totally. Phones are important socially, and frankly it keeps the parents more calm when they know they can call their kids. This does mean we have to manage the phone cubby for the middle school kids, but they like their phones and in four years I've only had to put like six students on the week long punishment.
As far as I can tell they regard having to put their phone in the cubby at the start of each day as a fate worse than death.
And given that so much of a young person't social life is on that phone, and they COULD HAVE been checking messages between class and using the phone in ways that aren't rude and distracting ... maybe it is. I feel sorry for them.
Is more like with entitled parents the kids are lovely and the parents are the ones with the behavior issues. With kids who get less attention because their parents are busy/overworked it's the other way around.
12-14 year olds in year 7 up are allowed to have their phone in their bag, but this can be revoked if they can't manage it properly.
10-12 year olds in year 5 and 6 must use the cubbies if parents insist they have a phone at school.
Below that they can't bring a phone to school at all. And really WHY an 8 year old will just lose it they are still struggling with "having a pencil" and need to concentrate on that.
@Penguinflight@ntnsndr@BrianJopek we should move to online and video classes. Then talking to a screen would not feel so odd in comparison to courses where unengaged students sit.
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