rbreich,
@rbreich@masto.ai avatar

I'm not saying we shouldn't worry about how China might be using TikTok to steal our data and manipulate us...

But why aren't we at least as worried about the U.S. billionaires who own the other apps stealing our data and trying to manipulate us?

benroyce,
@benroyce@mastodon.social avatar

@rbreich

"worried about the U.S. billionaires who own the other apps"

🤦

is co-owned by Jeff Yass

the biggest donor

robert: he's the vice chair of the f***ing Cato Institute

tiktok users are funding the GOP and conservative desolation of the

i've typed this comment 5-10 times in

why do people not know this?

why the f*** do people have this ignorant belief tiktok is magically different from ? it's the same plutocrat sh**

https://www.influencewatch.org/person/jeffrey-yass/

NotErsichtlic,
@NotErsichtlic@mastodon.world avatar

@rbreich

We need to see this as a foot in the door to do the same to other offenders.

leswarden,
@leswarden@mastodon.world avatar

@rbreich What they’re basically saying is you can steal and manipulate data from US citizens if the company is US owned.
This bill doesn’t even remotely get to the root of the mega-social-media problem.
#x

Threadbane,
@Threadbane@newsie.social avatar

@rbreich
Anybody remember the Kasperzy malware protection software? Obama made everybody in the Executive Department, including the DoD, take it off their machines because it was sending dumps to the KGB. One of the first things Trump did was tell everybody to put the Kasperzy spyware back on their machines. Hopefully Biden has ordered it removed again.

coldclimate,
@coldclimate@hachyderm.io avatar

@rbreich is this a retorical question? We are, that's why lots of us try not to use so many US owned services.

lin11c,
@lin11c@toad.social avatar

@rbreich
EXACTLY! This is so stupid. Plus some creepy billionaire will now own TikTok. Even worse probably.

faizalr,
@faizalr@mstdn.social avatar

@rbreich Yes.

iuculano,
@iuculano@masto.ai avatar

@rbreich

BOOOOOMMMMM!

fraying,
@fraying@xoxo.zone avatar

@rbreich And why aren’t we making it illegal for those US-based sites to sell that data?

tcely,
@tcely@fosstodon.org avatar

When Mark Zuckerberg puts his goal to remove the USA from the world in writing, because it is in his way, then I'll worry about him as much as the Chinese Communist Party!

Read more before putting takes like this out into the world.

@rbreich

JeanPDeliet,
@JeanPDeliet@mastodon.social avatar

@tcely @rbreich wait! China says that or TikTok? Why hasn’t this been more publicized? Who wants to remove the USA from the world ? Iran does now Putin too … but China ?

tcely,
@tcely@fosstodon.org avatar

China has not been subtle about this.

> Because of the fact that the US is the main international competitor, the PRC leadership considers all US security alliances and partnerships, especially those in the Indo-Pacific region, as destabilising and irreconcilable with their sovereignty, security, and developmental interests.

Read more at: https://www.southasiamonitor.org/china-watch/chinas-2049-plan-big-challenge-world

@JeanPDeliet

TopNotchSwords,
@TopNotchSwords@mastodon.social avatar

@tcely @rbreich you should take your own advice. TikTok itself is based in the US, their CEO is Singaporean, and they’ve offered to host all US data in Texas under Oracle. Additionally the minority leader on the House Intelligence Committee, Jim Hines, who sees the classified info that the public can’t, called it a ‘potential threat’ and voted against banning. He believed that First Amendment right preceded the potential threat of influence of the CCP.

tcely,
@tcely@fosstodon.org avatar

I find your suggestion that I should substitute Jim Hines' beliefs and opinions for my own extremely dubious.

Just because he thinks the ban would set an unacceptable precedent and voted against the bill, that isn't evidence that TikTok should be allowed.

The amount of indirection doesn't change who actually controls the content TikTok allows to be seen.

@TopNotchSwords

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