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ReCursing, supports bridges
Does that mean I can use a Matrix client and transparently joking a Discord server and speak with my friends?
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ReCursing, Thanks, I'll look into that then
dairokkan, Revolt is fairly young in comparison to Matrix. A lot of features including E2EE will be implemented in the future. Also, Revolt actually does have bridges and an ecosystem of WIP third-party clients as well.
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vinnyboiler, @ch1cken @dairokkan I think it's still worth keeping an eye on this, I use Matrix and love it but I can also see how more options that are open source being a good thing for the ecosystem as a whole. Revolt is actively being developed and I think it's still very much open to features like bridges to other services. All it takes is one developer implementing the Matrix protocol to come along and fix most the problems you have with Revolt.
Gull, Matrix's Code of Conduct says that they will not act on CoC violations that they find ideologically congenial. That's a blank check for harassment, and it applies to every forum which might be used for technical coordination around Matrix.
ScottyB, I've gotta say - I've been a drone for the past few years. In the past I've been really switched on for new privacy tech and ways to build my own network of my own data, but then in 2018 there was an accessibility explosion and for some reason I just stopped.
So to be getting back into the game as a result of Reddits' collapse and to see places like kbin/lemmy/mastodon thriving, then to see that Discord has a more decentralised competitor in matrix.org technologies and all of the clients being spawned off it. It... it just makes me feel good to be here again. Thanks for waiting for me.
Captain_Shoe, Does it have voice and video calling capability? If so, does it have the ability to share your game screen and audio while gaming in calls?
dairokkan, Revolt doesn't have video calling yet, although they're working on a new protocol for voice chat, one of the devs say it's in the pipeline
Captain_Shoe, The second they offer 1080p 60fps stable game streaming, I'm in. Discord locks that behind Nitro.
re, And it's never been stable for me. Most of the time a mess of pixels.
TheFork, That’s what I really miss on Matrix right now, that and the fact that for some reason, I can’t start a call in a channel with all my friends… Element says only the admin can…
darkkite, the average discord server has way too many channels it becomes overwhelming. I like how slack doesn't make you join every channel by default
SFaulken, In general, while it makes for convenience for end-users, I'm just not interested in hitching my buggy to another "single point" social media platform.
I already have a Discord account, I don't really need to sign up for a Discord clone based on a "Trust me Bro" sort of guarantee that they won't enshittify it in the future. Because nothing really stops the Revolt developers (and I'm not trying to imply any evil intentions, or even plans on their part) from deciding to accept VC money, or just sell the whole thing outright to $corporation_with_a_dumptruck_full_of_cash, and there's not a thing that a User can do about it.
It's entirely possible that with Matrix, that an individual matrix server administrator (lets call it matrix.foo.bar) could get up to shenanigans, but as it's a federated chat protocol by design, I'm free to take my custom elsewhere (matrix.bar.foo), and basically have the same access to all the things I did before. There is no single point of control, or failure for somebody to break, or sell.
Gull, If Revolt is open source then it isn't the same as Discord, because anyone can make their own deployment of it, and anyone can fork it. Realizing those benefits doesn't require federation.
ShesDayDreaming, I think I'm just going to wait, although all of my friends are on discord and idk if they would move over to another platform.
My main problem with discord right now is that their Linux client is awful and basically half broken so I'm stuck using it only on my phone.
ittu, I don't like discord because it's not apart of the open web and thus not accessible via full-text search. information silos suck.
nmac101, I have an account there for a long time now, and I really like it
Alex-Barredo685, Of all the platforms in the middle of all these drama, I hate discord the most and I hope they burn
Melon_Cooler, I'm honestly surprised how quickly discord has gone to shit vs. how long everyone I know was using stuff like Skype and TS beforehand.
I also hate how people try to use discord as a replacement for more traditional forums (including stuff like Reddit and kbin) instead of as just a chat and messaging platform. It sucks at it, please stop trying to make it work for that people.
ANuStart, Teanspeak is releasing a new discord-like and it looks great
ripcord, As someone who's only barely used Discord and out of the loop, what's going on with Discord that people are hating on them for, and what has made it "go to shit"?
Sylveon-Z, Removing the discriminators (4 numbers) at the end of usernames even though the majority of users hate the change because it means less chance of getting the username you actually want and less privacy, and recently removing permanent invites for servers that aren't "community servers".
Dettweiler42, From what I can gather, some people are upset that they have to change their username due to some changes regarding how accounts are handled. Rather than making some minor perceptive changes to their account, those people are dropping discord entirely.
Jarmer, This is my biggest complaint as well, Discord is TERRIBLE for searching for informational posts and replies. Yet people constantly try and use it for that. Every time I see a "visit our discord!" When I'm just wanting to search a forum, I groan and just close the site. I cannot wait for Discord to die off.
Dude_man_the_third, Discord would have to really mess up to die off right now. Its gonna be around for a few more years.
dairokkan, I despise subreddits who say "we are moving to discord". The two platforms are nothing alike and never will be
Jarmer, like /r/iphone. It's like "cmon people HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING" ... moving from one collapsing private for profit corporate disaster to another
LaRevoltage, Is this decentralised tho? Because that's the only thing that matters, as long as it's server based they can become like Reddit. I am not returning to centralised medias and messengers lol
dairokkan, Revolt is not fedi. You can host your own server but you'll need a seperate build of their client to communicate to that server and seperate accounts
bill_1992, You can't get more decentralized than the glory days of IRC and TeamSpeak.
Also, it's open source so you can just fork it and run your own instance.
Pisodeuorrior, Ooooh TeamSpeak, good EVE Online memories:)
What happened to it? It was working perfectly, I honestly can't remember how and when I jumped onto Discord.
ANuStart, Teanspeak is actually about to make a come back, they are releasing a discord-ish software that looks really nice and still allows you to self host
parrot-party, Yeah though those were really only usable for small groups of friends. They didn't scale and there was no inter server mingling.
aggrw, I remember chatting away with alot of friends on TS in the old WoW-guild days in the middle of the 00's. Good times.
TheFork, I think Matrix demonstrates how a modern decentralised chat system can be.
Gleaming0167, Once they get their voice rooms and federated calling system in order, I don't see why I would anything over matrix as a discord replacement.
aeternum, Protip: media is already plural. The singular is medium
Dettweiler42, Anybody remember Ventrillo?
eatmoregreenfood, Benefits over discord? I use discord to video chat with my out of town buddies. That's about it. What are some reasons I should switch? This isn't a loaded question btw, I've been a fan of FOSS and a free and open internet since I was a kid in the 90s. Grew up on anarchist punk and all. I'm just asking because I gotta convince the suits it's better.
Nico_Ferra,
TheFork, But does it work for groups? I don’t feel so: it always fallback on Jitsi when I try. Only 1-1 calls seem to go through Élément’ own voip service.
S410, Element-native group calls are currently being worked on. There's
feature_group_calls
setting, but it's in "labs" settings, which, in turn, are hidden by default.
rastilin, Looks cool, I'll have to try it.
defeater, What is the cause of migration from discord? What issues do people have with the platform?
YuzuDrink, I don't think there's anything new happening; but generally, Discord is a for-profit company which stores everyone's chat history in plain-text on their servers and any files, images, video, etc... that you share are also publicly accessible (albeit, you'd need a link; but anyone with the link can get to files, I'm pretty sure).
So many look at Discord as "only a matter of time" before they start getting shitty and squeezing for money at the expense of their users' experience and privacy.
I'm not personally aware of Discord having sold data to third parties for money or anything... but I definitely don't like the idea that my data and chat history is just... sitting there, for anyone at the company to start profiling for... anything or nothing. Like, if I'm on a server and someone there starts mentioning piracy, am I someday going to get pulled into court for allowing conspiracy to commit crimes to happen unchecked in a server I happen to follow?
Anyway, I keep my eyes out for something good to come along with more privacy; but I'm also not racing to get off the platform quite yet.
BBKuma, People are getting frustrated on how discord are making bad decisions and not listening to the community. Just recently the username change happened where they went from using discriminators so people can basically have whatever name they wanted to unique usernames. People were not happy.
nttea, Why would they change that? Discriminators seems like a perfectly good solution.
Chozo, My theory is that Discord may be trying to create a Twitter replacement platform that's integrated into the existing Discord platform, and that @usernames without discriminators will be easier for the Twitter audience to adopt.
CoderKat, They explain why here: https://discord.com/blog/usernames
I get why people are upset that they can no longer use the same username, but IMO it's pretty solid reasoning.
Eggyhead, I don't usually use discord, but what's going on with it?
dairokkan, There have been quite a lot of controversial changes that Discord has implemented, chief among which is the new username system that replaces the
username#nnnn
format that worked for most users with a@username
format, under the pretext that "it would be easier for the users"
iByteABit, The username change sucks for sure, and I was so confused while reading the pretext for it, it really sounds like bullshit.
However I still think it's a great platform for its use cases and I wouldn't stop using it just because of the username change and the Nitro stuff.If an open source alternative looks promising and gathers a good user base, I'll consider switching as long as my friends are into it, but it was hard enough to convince them to use Signal instead of Messenger lol
woodhouse, I thought my username was unique but due to this new update i had to add numbers to my username, i don't know whats the point of changing to this new system
dairokkan, The new username system causes a lot of what can only be described as seething
re, Yikes
CoderKat, I mean, it is easier. It's also not just replacing the #nnnn, but also it fixes the terrible choice they made of being case sensitive and allowing special characters, which can make it almost impossible to find some usernames unless copied carefully.
flux, oh hey i can log back in now!
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