in my personal experience it's some of the most supposedly pro-free speech people who have some of the most buckwild ideas about what constitutes defamation (or i guess business disparagement in this case)
@molly0xfff everyone’s always so mean to Elno, he’s just some chill guy trying to extract as much capital as possible before fucking off to the moon. Can’t anyone cut him some slack…
When I see someone describe themselves as a "Free speech absolutist" I just assume they are a Nazi. Nazis, like Elon Musk, know they can win the public debate with logic and reason, so they demand the 'right' to harass and intimidate people who oppose them.
@molly0xfff What #spacekaren means by ‘free speech’ is the right to call an innocent man “pedo guy” without repercussion, not factual reporting about his racism.
OTOH isn't it "forcing X to take down content we don't like" to go after their rent income until they take down content we don't like? Pot calling the kettle black?
I've always been a strong supporter of #FreeSpeech since before I even joined the internet in 1994.
@RuiSeabra@glynmoody no, it is not. a court order that would force MMfA to take down critical (but not defamatory) speech is a very different beast than an advertiser deciding to withdraw monetary support because they're dissatisfied with twitter's moderation philosophy.
@molly0xfff That is mere word-play. It is effectively censorship, but the threat comes from another powerful actor rather than the government or a court.
@RuiSeabra it is absolutely not mere wordplay. there is a huge distinction between actual freedom of speech and some imagined "freedom to do whatever you want without advertisers pulling support"
@molly0xfff yes, there is a huge dictionary distinction. Nevermind the pratical effect is the same. Just as bad as burning books or forbidding books in schools, like those religious extremists so much like to do in the USA.
@RuiSeabra say you subscribe to my substack. if I then publish something that damages your reputation or threatens your income, should you be forced to continue paying me?
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