adamjcook, to random

No surprises here.

As I have stated multiple time on this site, over multiple months now - the is an absolutely horrible regulator that, frankly, has done tremendous, lasted damage to US .

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-08/top-us-auto-safety-investigator-resigns-after-audit-finds-flaws

adamjcook,

Yup.

The Revolving Door back to industry is no surprise either.

It is corrosive and the public, largely unknowingly, pays for it with their lives.

The US is now at 40-year highs in pedestrian deaths and with the total oversight vacuum of automated driving systems... I expect that number to explode upwards, sadly.

Hopefully, I will be wrong.

adamjcook,

@rowdypixel But do not be surprised if a permanent replacement does not happen for years.

The , the actual agency, right now does even have a permanent Administrator.

And now, neither does NHTSA's ODI division.

The whole agency is basically, from top-to-bottom, leaderless.

adamjcook, to random

Oh memories.

Taking a break from 's Hate Train on the Hellsite to recall this series of Tweets from a few years ago.

While under-appreciated then and now, the Tweet thread by Musk posted below contains an extremely damning admission and it displays the considerable blind spot associated with remotely updating systems without oversight.

Musk has no clue what he admitted to here, but systems safety experts do.

adamjcook,

@justafrog Your lack-of-faith for automotive regulators is completely valid.

No one should have any.

The , in the US, is a horrible regulatory agency - worse than can be possibly imagined.

The agency spends all day constructing elaborate, but paper-thin facades and puppet shows for the public - all while the public is being materially harmed.

And, indeed, they really only wake up, just a little bit, when a bad headline comes out that they cannot sweep under the rug.

CrackedWindscreen, to random
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"Track based assessments" of driver assistance tech, whilst being awful in many circumstances on our roads. Thanks to OEMs working to pass the tests, as admitted by Thatcham, and not be user and real-world friendly.

Looking forward to seeing data that proves these help - I'll cut to the chase, the only data we will ever get is if it is activated, no proof it did anything of use. And that is used already to claim "SAFETY", see the meaningless AEB data that is spouted.

https://www.euroncap.com/en/press-media/press-releases/self-driving-cars-are-not-yet-on-our-roads-but-assisted-driving-systems-are-already-supporting-drivers-safety-today/

adamjcook,

@CrackedWindscreen @EricPaulDennis Yup.

That is a timeless classic.

obviously uses that backwards argument as well - which is not surprising as our theoretical regulator, the , basically invented it.

The only path, if the actual interest was safety, is to pursue rigorous and continuous oversight of internal validation processes.

Processes, not endpoints.

But that is costly and so it is papered over with nonsense arguments.

adamjcook,

@EricPaulDennis @CrackedWindscreen Oh. The pedestrian or VRU will be next in the blame cycle at the once the human driver cannot be as easily blamed anymore.

Yes indeed.

Anything, anything at all, to keep the blame on any human.

adamjcook,

@EricPaulDennis @CrackedWindscreen I mean… the could hardly believe their luck that Elaine Herzberg was “jaywalking” when the ADS test vehicle struck and killed her.

The NHTSA had that out.

And the NHTSA has an impaired driver out (despite Uber’s undeniable responsibility to maintain a robust Safety Management System with its test operators).

The NHTSA staff probably threw a little party.

adamjcook,

@EricPaulDennis @CrackedWindscreen I could.

It was the prefect out for everyone.

If Herzberg had not been killed, they might have gone after her too.

Frankly, Uber ATG was operating under a highly-negligent process (if a "process" could even be used to describe it) that was tacitly approved by the .

And that NHTSA policy continues to this day.

And why not?

It is not like the NHTSA saw any heat from that.

CrackedWindscreen, to random
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Oh goody. More Euro NCAP scores.

Or more accurately, very well built cars, thanks to NCAP's work, whose manufacturers have been pressurised into fitting technology that works on a test track but not reliably on public roads, as NCAP needed to keep its business going after it reached the limit of safe construction, so made up where else it pokes its nose.

adamjcook,

@CrackedWindscreen Indeed.

And, sadly, in the US at least, authorities and regulators were more than happy to pin the blame on the foreign automaker in question (which is fine), but without effectively making any regulatory robustness changes to prevent such issues in the future (which is not fine, obviously).

The and gaslight the public and play political games in order to avoid ever doing their jobs.

is one such gaslighting program.

adamjcook,

@CrackedWindscreen A perfect example of something that cannot capture: https://www.carscoops.com/2023/06/tesla-model-y-steering-wheels-might-fall-off-again-leading-to-yet-another-recall/amp/

The has zero clue how many vehicles might be effected by this safety-related, manufacturing defect.

The NHTSA only has “the word” of the automaker, in this case .

Unquantifiable visibility on automaker internal processes render NCAP assessments effectively moot.

No sense opining about a frontal crash test rating when the steering wheel might detach suddenly.

kentindell, to random
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    @kentindell The #FDA must have the regulatory robustness of the #NHTSA, near as I can tell (at as far as experimental devices are concerned).

    This is unbelievable.

    To my knowledge, the #USDA OIG has not even concluded an investigation into allegations of horrid animal-welfare violations - which is, to me, a clear-cut signal as to how #Neuralink will treat any trial participants.

    It is just like #FSDBeta all over again.

    The US just cannot help but to indulge it.

    adamjcook, to random

    I kid you not.

    Roughly every four years, the OIG issues the same report about the .

    The NHTSA, the theoretical regulator for vehicle and highway safety in the US, is an unserious and stupid agency that no automaker takes seriously behind closed doors.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/government-audit-finds-auto-safety-regulators-failed-to-complete-defects-probes-in-timely-manner-8a8cfc54

    adamjcook,

    Yeah, yeah. Sure thing. 🙄

    The has this canned statement ready-to-go every time a new OIG report is released.

    adamjcook,

    An automaker, , deliberately allowed video games to be viewed and accessed by human drivers on a primary or sole vehicle HMI for about a year before the press discovered it.

    https://techcrunch.com/2023/05/30/tesla-cleared-by-nhtsa-for-in-car-gaming-feature/amp/

    The ’s response?

    No sanctions or any real questions about Tesla’s internal safety processes.

    Investigation closed, I guess.

    This was just a few days ago.

    How stupid can auto regulation get in the US?

    The NHTSA is determined to find out.

    adamjcook,

    By the way, the title is inaccurate in the article linked to above.

    The did not "clear" .

    The NHTSA does not really do that, in large part, to keep some plausible deniability on the table.

    They closed their investigation without recommending a recall and, perplexingly, without a finding of a safety defect.

    I mean... it is effectively the same thing, but there is a technical difference should be recognized.

    adamjcook,

    @guiltmanager Musk does not really need to.

    The has been laughably weak since its inception.

    adamjcook, (edited ) to random

    Hmm. Interesting article.

    @samabuelsamid, who I generally agree with, offers some thoughts.

    @mimsical, who I also generally agree with, is mentioned in passing.

    And, well, I have typically agreed less with Timothy Lee's thoughts over the years (particularly on -related topics), but this article is reasonable enough.

    But let's crack it open and take a look at a few things that I think are iffy.

    🧵👇

    https://www.understandingai.org/p/the-death-of-self-driving-cars-is

    adamjcook, (edited )

    Hmm. Going to throw up some flags here. This needs a perspective.

    Firstly, there is no value (ultimately, the only thing that matters) in "criticizing" and (or, at least without criticizing, say, the at the same time)...

    They are operating under a complete and deliberate lack of regulatory scrutiny that should be in place, but is not in place.

    itnewsbot, to random
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    Automatic emergency braking should become mandatory, feds say - Enlarge / Emergency braking systems have been on the road for some year... - https://arstechnica.com/?p=1943290

    adamjcook, to random

    Speaking of leadership (or the lack thereof), here is the latest that just dropped...

    adamjcook,

    Here is the thing.

    Firstly, is a dipshit.

    Secondly, I am fine with the taking ownership of -oriented regulations as, of course, there is a very real dimension to them.

    But, this agency, in increasingly doing so, is now left with zero resources to create and enforce vehicle and highway safety regulations.

    Who is looking out for those deaths?

    You know, the deaths that disproportionally impact under-represented and minority groups?

    adamjcook,

    Arguably, the never effectively had the resources to create and enforce vehicle and highway safety regulations... but now, they are definitively tapped out.

    The previous Senate-confirmed, NHTSA Administrator, Steven Cliff, only lasted about three months in office - and only just long enough to see some long-overdue vehicle regulations pass.

    adamjcook, to random

    I have to say, it has really been a disappointing time under the Administration for - after having so much promise initially.

    I do not know what the issues are here, but President Biden should ask Secretary for his resignation.

    Sure, former Secretary Elaine Chao was ideologically worse than Buttigieg, but they are both virtually identical in ineffectiveness.

    That is unacceptable.

    Sad to say, but here we are.

    adamjcook,

    @enmodo I really did not say much of anything there.

    I meant "outsized" in terms of a constellation of historic (like increasing vehicle size) and emerging (like automated driving systems) vehicle safety issues that are growing and converging.

    And, no, the dysfunction and obstruction in is not a valid excuse in my view.

    The has broad powers.

    It could act substantially and unilaterally if had any interest to do so.

    adamjcook,

    @enmodo He does. Repeatedly. Twice just this month by my count.

    It has all the hallmarks of an individual that simply cannot understand or appreciate the actual safety issues.

    The press seems to catch him in between tech conferences and I have zero clue how the Secretary of Transportation, with serious and ongoing roadway and rail safety issues no less, has time for any of that.

    The is without permanent leadership today, as we speak.

    adamjcook,

    @bgluckman @seachanger @AliceMarshall Yes, perhaps.

    After the total vacuum of the Administration, though, and given the unique changes in the technology landscape... I feel strongly we needed a "war time" secretary.

    Someone like (current Chair) Jennifer Homendy that understands the systems safety issues and can work the politics if need be.

    Honestly, I would have settled with any former NTSB chairperson being tapped for the leadership - even acting leadership.

    adamjcook, to random

    An interesting article here by @mimsical and I would recommend reading it.

    I think it is a reasonable take on how, essentially, the regulatory landscape will look in the US and perhaps elsewhere.

    That said, I have some notes.

    Not so much on the article itself... but on my favorite punching bag, the .

    For those that do not know, the NHTSA is the unserious, disinterested and effectively theoretical regulator in the US for vehicle and roadway safety. 🧵

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-will-we-know-when-self-driving-cars-are-safe-when-they-can-handle-the-worlds-worst-drivers-fd35b907

    MisterMadge,

    @adamjcook
    I enjoyed your commitment to referring to the everytime with a preceding article.

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