vulkan, to GraphicsProgramming
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Vulkan SC is a streamlined API based on the Khronos Vulkan API that enables state-of-the-art GPU-accelerated graphics and computation to be deployed in safety-critical systems. The Vulkan SC Working Group at Khronos released the latest Vulkan SC 1.0.13 maintenance update. Alongside the new specification there are significant Vulkan SC tooling updates and streamlined ecosystem synergy with mainstream Vulkan. Read on to discover more!

https://www.khronos.org/blog/vulkan-sc-significant-ecosystem-and-tooling-updates

adamjcook, to tesla

Here’s the thing.

Clearly, today does not have internal engineering competence in systems.

Competent safety-critical system engineers do not ship “beta” systems to the untrained public.

But let’s put all that aside for a bit.

Overworked, stressed engineers is simply incompatible with the exacting work of safety-critical systems anyways.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/16/23833447/tesla-elon-musk-ultra-hardcore-employees-land-of-the-giants

adamjcook, to opensource

Wow. Big!

The compiler will almost certainly not be , which is just a tiny bit sad, but the advancement of Rust into this domain would be a milestone.

https://ferrous-systems.com/blog/a-decade-of-rust/

adamjcook, to ML

Well put.

And frankly, the community needs a serious (technical and ethical) wake-up call.

Many would gush over Tesla’s so-called “ Days” while neglecting to demand any safety case.

That advanced and legitimatized Tesla’s wrongdoings - wrongdoings where people have died avoidably.

These are systems and not “AIs”.

A robust systems safety process is the real, competitive value - not the data, NN architecture, sensors, compute, or whatever.

Tesla has no process.

adamjcook, to random

A missed opportunity, in my view, to discuss how ’s somewhat recent entry into the systems space is really the far more pressing issue here.

Hand-waving systems safety yields enormous cost savings (far more than is typically expected) and is corrosive to a modern society in ways that courts could never rectify once sufficiently lost.

https://www.businessinsider.com/venture-capital-big-tech-antitrust-predatory-pricing-uber-wework-bird-2023-7

adamjcook, to cars

Let's talk about vehicles equipped with a bit - a Level 3-capable vehicle that has been recently "approved" in a handful of US states.

This article almost entirely focuses on the legal dynamics of consumer liability should this vehicle create a direct (or, presumably, an indirect) incident.

But, as always, I want to talk about what I feel are the realities at work here and the many foot-guns that are associated with that.

https://www.autonews.com/mobility-report/mercedes-drive-pilot-automated-system-poses-legal-questions

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adamjcook, (edited )

The legal expert cited, Professor William Widen, and Professor Phil Koopman have offered their thoughts on attributing liability (between the vehicle and the human driver), as linked to in the article.

That work is here: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4444854

It is a sensible proposal and Professor Koopman is one of the foremost experts in systems, and systems.

Still, I submit that no proposal can quantifiably protect consumers with this type of system.

Why?

lolgop, to random
@lolgop@journa.host avatar

He broke the site, came up with a lie to explain why it's broke and the press was like, "Makes total sense!" https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/musks-twitter-rate-limits-could-undermine-new-ceo-ad-experts-say-2023-07-03/

adamjcook,

@lolgop Constantly. Constantly this is done.

It is beyond exhausting.

And it has actually proved to be extraordinarily dangerous when lies about the capabilities and availability of 's product, in particular.

The press often allows Wall Street analysts, that are not competent in systems, to advance Musk's dangerous lies.

The community has been battling this for years.

adamjcook, to twitter

So, if it was not the case before, now that seems to be walled off for good...

How can the and, say, The White House (as a two random examples) continue to remain solely on social media platforms that are inaccessible to millions of unregistered users?

Those exclusively on the , an open platform, are being actively denied public services, official policy announcements and timely emergency alerts.

Wondering if there is a legal argument here.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/30/23779764/twitter-blocks-unregistered-users-account-tweets

adamjcook,

@ljs Oh. I agree.

is actively and aggressively tearing down decades of hard-fought, industry norms as it pertains to systems work - and that is very much by design.

And disinterested regulators allow him to get away with the most blatant of violations.

New engineering graduates are being cycled through Musk-controlled firms like - only to likely leave with a very poor internal safety culture (that other firms can later exploit).

A race to the bottom.

TradingPlacesResearch, to random

Marc Andreessen: "what happens when basically very smart people who are taken very seriously in one field decide to branch out and decide to become experts on society and politics and decide to weigh in on the future shape of society, and basically it turns out they’re just horribly bad, they just have catastrophic judgment once they’re outside of their core discipline.”

Yes, now please kindly shut the fuck up, Marc.

https://stratechery.com/2023/an-interview-with-marc-andreessen-about-ai-and-how-you-change-the-world/

adamjcook,

@John @TradingPlacesResearch Marc is not at all competent in systems.

And Marc is obviously just going to uncritically regurgitate talking points.

Marc has recently been embracing a more hardware-oriented mindset ever since COVID-19 erupted, and yet, is simply disinterested in understanding the details of the space.

adamjcook, (edited ) to tesla

Oof.

What an absolute mess of a video from the Verge - and this mess has some dire public safety ramifications.

Not even sure where to begin, but let's look at a few things...

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https://youtu.be/pUtJ8HPZRkw

adamjcook,

Alright, .

Is Elon wrong about Lidar?

Well. The question is wrong.

Here is the right question.

Does a well-maintained validation process for any given vehicle demand a Lidar sensor (or any other hardware)?

That is it.

System designers, that are properly engaged in designing a system, are subservient to both the initial and continuous (that is, never ending) validation process.

adamjcook, to tesla

Caught this Twitter Space segment yesterday which puts a finer point on my Mastodon thread from yesterday: https://mastodon.social/@adamjcook/110616834664093201

Ross Gerber, a prominent investor and advocate that was featured in my previous thread is clearly angry that his -active vehicle was observed in displaying some highly-compromising behaviors.

This conversation is telling because we have really reached the "next stage" of this vast Tesla wrongdoing - organized collusion outside of Tesla.

A Twitter Spaces conversation from sometime on June 28th. The Twitter Space is entitled "Tesla Deep Dive". Ross Gerber is primarily speaking throughout the clip. At the end of the clip, the Spaces host, a Twitter user by the alias of Wolf, cuts in to presumably move the conversation into a different, less-heated area. Many other prominent Tesla online community members are shown in this Twitter Spaces room.

adamjcook,

Remember: YouTube videos and personal testimonials can never show positive safety progress in the context of a system.

Never.

Videos and personal testimonials can only display safety-related issues.

And even with organized efforts by many prominent "testers" in the community to only publish what they feel are the most visually-performant drives... I have never seen a video that did not contain serious safety-related issues (many which are "unseen").

adamjcook, (edited ) to chicago

I was at Pride all weekend while visiting with my wife (videos and photos soon!), so I missed this Drama concerning that erupted.

Ok.

Let us, again, all put on our hats and take a look at the situation here as I understand it.

Below is the video that kicked the beehive between Tesla defenders and detractors on "what really happened?".

This clearly chaotic video was taken from a larger drive sequence in which FSD Beta was active.

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adamjcook,

Alright. A few background notes.

With respect to systems, "positive assumptions of safety" are incompatible with the analysis of these systems - particularly by those outside of a systems safety lifecycle.

is included here as well since, per my previous threads on the matter, Tesla is not maintaining a systems safety lifecycle with their program.

The assumption must be made that the Tesla vehicle would have blown the stop sign.

Case closed on that.

CrackedWindscreen, to random
@CrackedWindscreen@mastodon.online avatar

These lunatics are going to kill people with this insane thinking.

Show me your safety case. Show me your documented safety culture and how you go about things.

https://www.designnews.com/automotive-engineering/imagry-camera-only-mapless-automated-driving-system

CrackedWindscreen, to random
@CrackedWindscreen@mastodon.online avatar

Well this led me down a rabbit hole.
Headline is older Aussie drivers don't trust ADAS and how to get them too.
By checking just the first few cited research papers where 'the clear safety benefits' have been shown, you find they DO NOT do that. Surprise, surprise.
They use a lot of "could", "can" and "should". Because they don't know. Because there is no proof.

And legislation is being written on the back of these. FFS.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214140523000828

adamjcook,

@CrackedWindscreen @serichards Indeed.

It is a combination of "too much" and "too vague" relative to the extraordinarily high demands of responsibly developed systems.

The myopic position of and others is really a tacit admission that they are "rolling the dice" and hoping that "the numbers" work out enough to satisfy deadbeat regulators and "the numbers" are low enough that the press does not catch on.

It is a perversion and betrayal of decades of systems work.

adamjcook,

@CrackedWindscreen @serichards It is really a thinking and strategy that is wholesale ripped from consumer/business work... because:

  • It is considerably cheaper; and
  • It fits better with the base "Silicon Valley" competencies that many of these firms ( perhaps most prominently) have.

I mean... Tesla hosts these "AI Days" and, as near as I can tell, nobody on the stage seems to have any systems experience.

That is not a side issue.

adamjcook, to ChatGPT

Hmm. Not sure about the wisdom of this...

There are physical assets at risk and sometimes, arguably oftentimes, systems concerns here.

I would need to see a safety case, at minimum.

And I expect I would not receive it.

adamjcook, (edited ) to tesla

This is a good piece, but the one small nit that I have again is bringing in a "data argument".

I know that it is tempting for an audience that is generally not at all experienced in systems, but I would highly recommend resisting it.

In fact, there is no could be higher.

It is our obligation to assume that the "crash rate" of 's product is unquantifiably higher.

The sky is the limit.

https://prospect.org/justice/06-13-2023-elon-musk-tesla-self-driving-bloodbath/

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adamjcook, to random

Oh memories.

Taking a break from 's Hate Train on the Hellsite to recall this series of Tweets from a few years ago.

While under-appreciated then and now, the Tweet thread by Musk posted below contains an extremely damning admission and it displays the considerable blind spot associated with remotely updating systems without oversight.

Musk has no clue what he admitted to here, but systems safety experts do.

adamjcook,

First off, are not smartphones.

I cannot say that enough.

And if you hear anyone describing them as such, it almost certainly means that they are (knowingly or not) hand-waving away the incomparable differences between a consumer electronic device and a system.

That makes reports like this on 's hiring preferences very concerning: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/05/14/tesla-apple-tech/

adamjcook,

The Hard Truth is that if one's engineering and management experience has been dominated by their time at, say, ... this will not translate well to a role that involves systems of the caliber of cars.

The competencies involved are Night and Day.

That is not to say that talented engineers from consumer/business hardware and software realms can never become competent in safety-critical systems work... but it is a considerable jump.

And that should be recognized.

adamjcook,

Alright, back to the tweet from above...

First off, it should be recognized that a "regression" is a software term which, in the context of a system, is woefully incomplete by itself.

The question asked and the statement made should be...

"How was an existing validation process deficient such that it allowed a safety-related defect to enter the public?"

Processes, not software.

Processes, not endpoints.

Processes, not defects.

adamjcook,

The totality of the safety components of a physical, system cannot be fully expressed in software alone.

And, therefore, the analysis can never be myopically scoped to that.

It is just like the "Beta" label that slaps on everything (most notably, ).

"Beta" has no meaning in the realm of safety-critical systems - especially those released to the public.

It is a business/consumer software term and it is not compatible with life and limb systems.

adamjcook,

The second Tweet touches on a topic that Musk is undoubtedly unaware of called Configuration Management (CM) - an extremely complex and important concept in systems work.

You know sometimes, if you have an older , and pushes an OTA update and in some older devices it causes some issues that newer devices do not see?

That is likely because Apple has lost some visibility on the significant number of hardware configurations that they are supporting.

adamjcook, (edited )

An inconvenience perhaps for customers.

No big deal.

But a potentially deadly situation when CM visibility is lost with a system like a car!

In that Tweet, Musk is hand-waving 's responsibilities in maintaining CM (and a validation process to match) as an "impossibility".

It is not impossible.

It is inherently costly and complex and it will substantially reduce Tesla's flexibility in changing vehicle hardware on-the-fly - an oft-cited competitive advantage.

adamjcook, (edited )

Musk does not want that baggage, which is unavoidable in responsible systems work, so Musk and toss "the testing" upon its untrained customers and the public.

That is why that Tweet is so revealing.

The other thing, of course, is that "QA", by itself, is not a sufficient processes for systems - and, yet again, it is a term stripped from consumer/business software and hardware domains.

Validation, not QA.

adamjcook,

The last Tweet in that thread was written by Musk a little over 13 hours after "the issues" were discovered when the second Tweet was published.

For systems of this complexity, no matter how many people are on the team, no matter how talented the people are on the team, there is zero chance that the "10.3.1" point update was actually validated.

There simply is not enough wall clock time.

Musk and just tossed it out, like if they were shipping a video game update.

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