Watching the bear vs man in forest stories & I remember when our 9-year-old son said some boys at recess offered to play with him if 'he hugged & kissed a girl.'
He replied, "No, that's inappropriate," & told us he didn't mind not being able to play with those boys after all. Later his teacher shared she was happy he stood up to peer pressure.
Y'all—it's never too early to teach boys about consent & boundaries. Have the convo. Then again. And again. Boys will be the boys we teach them to be.
@wagesj45 My axiom works on valid criticism and lies. An example of each is “so many strange men have been aggressive toward me that I would rather be around a wild bear” and “Mexican rapists are flooding the Texas border.” Non-aggressive men and Mexican asylum seekers can simply continue existing as living proof that the criticism does not apply to them.
Going out of one’s way to say valid broad criticism doesn’t apply to them individually is unhelpful and suspicious. As for broad lies, no one needs to give them more attention, as a debate would imply the lie has validity.
I’m only bothering to explain this because you don’t yet seem completely irredeemable, but you gotta stop using r/MensRights talking points to dig yourself into this #NotAllMen hole. Instead of invalidating women’s feelings by trying to find logical fallacies in their legitimate fears, just be a good man who women can feel safe around. Saying “I take every criticism about the worst men personally” ain’t it.
@aronow I've heard a bit about this. I just do not understand it. I'm not trying to do a #NotAllMen here. I really just don't understand it.
I mean - as a 'strategy' for getting laid (assuming that's the intention?) could this ever work? I feel like I'm from Mars sometimes... who does this? Well apparently loads of fellas...
@aronow Well what a charmer. Who does that? Did he seriously think there's a % game where strangers actually give him BJs? Is he right????
However, the #NotAllMen thing is deeply annoying. Would be great if a few more of that gang held their mates to a higher standard rather than popping up on every thread about male bad behaviour to explain their own innocence
Was chatting with a lad on this: if you know there are 20 lions hiding behind trees in the forest. You assume every tree has a lion.
Hey allies, want to do something to help out very tired marginalized people? When you notice someone pulling some #NotAllMen#NotAllCis#NotAllWhites kind of bullshit, take on the emotional labor of smacking that shit down. Those sorts of asshats never listen to the marginalized people themselves shoving the shit they generated back in their face, but maybe they'll listen to people they consider their peers telling them to back off and fuck off.
In the context of my comment it was an ironic reference to the #NotAllMen hashtag wich, as I understood it, was often used by men downplaying the concerns of women and relativising common problems and fears they encounter by saying that not all men are that way. While technically true, it undermined the severity of the issues. As it was the case wih the original commenter here, who meanwhile deleted his comment or got it deleted. Their original comment reminded me of the hashtag.
After a few downvotes I added the irony flag, as I got the impression that my ironic use of the hashtag was not obvious to some readers here.
Fucking obviously that’s not what I’m saying, you’re not that dense. Just say #notallmen and start harassing someone else. I didn’t realize I was communicating with an actual clown this whole time.
The last one of these was, "Women, what would you do freely if all men disappeared for 24hrs?" The answers were simple things like, "Take a stroll at night alone, with headphones on." "Leave my drink at a bar while I went to pee." And, "Play video games with an unmuted mic."
I've never been much of a sports fan. Except for test cricket, which is down to long days watching with my grandfather, who passed on his love of the tactics. In the highly unlikely circumstance that I would have wanted to play, not going to happen...
girl after all.
Then, a few years ago, I found myself increasingly addicted to road cycling, again because of the tactics revealed by SBS commentators.
This year has been a bit of a revelation. Hung on every moment of the #WAshes as simultaneously lost interest in the #Ashes. Got mightily pissed off with the level of coverage available for the #LeTourFemme but also lost ridiculous amounts of sleep over the #LeTour.
Then, I found myself watching the #Matildas campaign, and even the loss in the semi hasn't blunted the extreme good feelings from seeing those women play.
So here's the thing. Lost interest in the men's cricket because, frankly, thought the English men's team carry-on was pathetic. Can't abide AFL because of all the posturing and bullshit that goes on around and by the players (grew up in a country town in the 70s ... the double standard and crapola was nauseating.) Haven't been all that interested in A League, again because of the bullshit from players and supporters alike.
Turns out it might be that women play a talented, inclusive, no bullshit form of the games that appeals to this very marginal sports follower more.
And isn't it interesting that Sydney public transport had problems after last night's game because of a couple of dickhead men making it about them. And did I see that some men making it about them caused problems in the stadium crowd last night.
There's a pattern here.
And ffs no #notallmen responses. I'm over that bullshit as well.
I don’t disagree that both men and women do heinous things, but women don’t almost never physically attack or kill a man when he shuns her advances, but men absolutely attack women every day for shunning a man’s advances, and sometimes women get straight up murdered for it.
#NotAllMen, but enough men that many women choose the bear.
If it takes saying "men are xyz" instead of "this particular man who harmed me in this particular situation is xyz" to get other men to pay fxxing attention - - even if only to squeal "nOt AlL mEn!!1!!" ( #notallmen ) at me--then I'm just gonna keep saying it.
Some white men have been conditioned to think that their sperm represents the top of the evolutionary heap for so long that they’re offended to the point of making a woman bear their children against her will rather than admit she has the right to govern her own body.
Et j'entends, je vois, je lis les copines avec le leur, et jamais de la vie je supporte le quart du dixième (le quarantième donc) de ce qu'ils leur font subir ni des compromissions qu'ils les obligent à accepter.
Est-ce que je suis plus heureuse qu'elles? Certainement pas.
Mais au moins j'ai pas toute cette fatigue mentale là et cette tristesse du truc insoluble pour l'éternité. Je pourrais pas gérer ça, j'ai d'autres charges mentales, et d'autres tristesses d'insolubilité pour l'éternité, je suis à ras-bord je peux pas. Je peux plus. Y a une date de péremption pour ces conneries, clairement.
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Mais aujourd'hui, voire des mecs se foutre de la gueule de Yoko sur une grosse scène, devant un gros public, lui mettre la tête dans un sac en chantant "Scumbag" (littéralement sac à merde, sac à ordures)...
Je trouve ça juste dégueulasse.
En plus elle est super punk Yoko dans sa façon de chanter.
1/ T'as pas vu la vidéo donc tu supposes dans le vide.
2/ C'est sympa de défendre les bro mais on connait un peu le schéma (#notAllMen)
3/ #Zappa, désolé pour ses fans, n'était pas vraiment féministe (et même pas du tout).
C'était un incontinent sexuel notoire, et quand il critiquait l'ordre moral, l'establishment, il défendait surtout SA liberté d'expression à lui, c'est à dire en version moderne : "on peut plus rien dire".
No, and I don’t know how you’re getting that from what I’ve said.
In the scenario there is a hypothetical man and a hypothetical bear. There’s no reason to self-insert oneself as the man, except as an excuse to get outraged in a #notallmen fashion. A (real, non-hypothetical) man taking offense to the answer by assuming they are being indicted is just showing his own narcissism by making the hypothetical about himself.
My husband calls in the middle of this and I told him I usually don’t see these sort of shit takes here and then I remember I’d been browsing ALL, for crying out loud. Go to see what fucking community it was… and it’s memes! My bad even commenting here probably, but complaining that memes don’t adequately capture the whole picture and may not be the best way to address the issue seems a little… I dunno but something - here in the literal meme community.
Y’all ain’t being thrown under the bus. My husband gets it. He is also an ally to women. But y’all ain’t there “standing up in solidarity with women” when we are being molested, raped, or murdered. These things happen to women ALL THE GODDAMNED TIME. You weren’t there in solidarity with me any of the times when I was actually harmed, but when I have something to say about how scary men can actually be, you are here to stand against me. Or at best, get me to think of your feelings instead of my own safety.
I would also prefer guys who are not rapists to stand up in solidarity with women against the rapists, instead of being thrown under the bus with the rest of the women that make men feel uncomfortable by reminding them of the things that actually happen in women’s lives.
So fucked up how common it is for guys to just go to bat for an entirely hypothetical man in an entirely hypothetical scenario rather than just listen to a woman’s concerns about how they don’t feel safe around men they don’t know. I really cast a side eye on any man or masculine presenting person who just wants to dismiss women’s concerns the way some of those people did. They’re a tiny minority of people there, but the fact that they’re here at all is disturbing.
Es ist krass, wieviel #NotAllMen hier ausgespuckt wird, wenn es darum geht, wieviele Frauen von Männern umgebracht werden.
Hallo?!? Wie wär's, wenn Ihr einfach darüber nachdenkt, dass das eine ganz furchtbare Situation ist? Und dass sich das ändern muss? Die Zahlen sind auf dem Tisch, da gibt's nichts zu diskutieren.
Und wenn Ihr versucht, das wegzureden, dann stellt sich zwangsläufig die Frage, warum Ihr darüber lieber nicht reden wollt.
Ooof, sounds like somebody got scratched. It’s always the ones on some constant scaring-the-hoes energy that gotta loudly and vocally separate themselves into the #NotAllMen bucket.
Young men aren’t being forced to follow toxic masculine icons like Tate and Peterson, they’re choosing to consume their content over healthy masculine icons.
Models for healthy masculinity exist. They’re unpopular, because young men don’t want to be healthy. They are choosing to be toxic.
So let’s all remember who is at fault and who needs to change here - it’s the menfolk, not everyone else. Stay fabulous. Get a cat.
Pro-Palestine demonstrators in Portugal assaulted by Israeli tourists (www-jn-pt.translate.goog)
Son, we need to have a serious talk! (lemmy.world)
A bit late (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
“b-but bears are actually dangerous!” Shut the hell up.
Alligatussy (lemmy.world)
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Sexism really do be getting me down
yea...
Texas professors sue to fail students who seek abortions | Men are using abortion bans to control and abuse women in their lives for "consensual sexual intercourse" (www.salon.com)