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jon, to random
@jon@gruene.social avatar
    • unless you want to travel internationally because we won’t sell you those tickets any more
takua,
@takua@norden.social avatar

@jon @takua I managed to get around Belgium somehow. Currently sitting in the TGV inoui from Barcelona to Paris (great landscape). One thing is certain, I will never complain about DB Navigator anymore.

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@takua Right. Totally. German journalists often ask me “But surely Germany's digitalisation of rail is lacking!" and then response is “Have you seen the situation elsewhere?”

jon, to random
@jon@gruene.social avatar

All right. Now we have the answer.

Austerlitz

Me: Why can I not book a ticket for Berlin on SNCF Connect?

SNCF employee: It’s not possible

Me: But why?

SNCF: “C’est la faute de l’Europe!” (It’s Europe’s fault)

Me: But why can DB sell me a SNCF ticket? SBB a Trenitalia ticket? The only one stopping is SNCF.

SNCF: You have to buy it on the site of DB then or Trainline

(My jaw dropped at that!)

Me: It’s not because SNCF is closing Résarail?

SNCF: It’s because of international agreements!

HauntedOwlbear,
@HauntedOwlbear@eldritch.cafe avatar

@jon ah, this absolutely sounds like a French national IT project.

I've just found the 2021 (!) press release for the switch to S3 Passenger, too.

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@HauntedOwlbear Yep. But if that’s still the plan I don’t know.

jon, to random
@jon@gruene.social avatar

So I just tried asking at Bercy if they could sell me a ticket to Berlin in June

The guy was friendly but couldn’t get a price (because we know he can’t get prices). But he was genuinely confused, and had no idea SNCF has suspended these sales

I’m going to try once more at Austerlitz and see what they tell me there

realmos,
@realmos@bahn.social avatar

@jon is it that they can’t sell tickets for connecting trains or even not for direct ones like the NJ from Paris to Berlin?

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@realmos they can’t sell NJ. Full stop.

jon, to random
@jon@gruene.social avatar

Does passenger behaviour on platforms vary between countries I wonder?

The TER Nuits-sous-Ravières - Paris Bercy is peculiar

At all interim stations the platform entrances are at the back of the train. But at Bercy the exit is at the front

I walk to the front at Nuits so I’m near the exit at Paris, but pretty much no others do, despite SNCF Connect indicating it’s a long train

I’m pretty sure in UK or Germany more would do as I do

corentin,
@corentin@masto.bike avatar

@jon Agree with you, last time I was on an ICE to Stuttgart there were some people walking down the aisle towards the front of the train and I remember thinking that nobody in France would do that. Which is weird because every Parisian knows exactly where to stand on the metro in order to be right in front of the exit.

Though to be fair nobody would want to be at Stuttgart Hbf any longer than they absolutely need to!

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@corentin Why don't commuters from Sens do the same then?

jon, to random
@jon@gruene.social avatar

I’m often critical of French rural timetables not being joined up

But this one works perfectly

The bakery in Nuits opens at 06:00, so there’s time to get a croissant 🥐 on the way from home to the railway station for the first train to Paris at 06:21 🙂

yogurt,

@jon good to see Nuits still has boulangerie artisanale

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@yogurt it’s a new one. Same family running it in Nuits and one in Ravières. We’re grateful for it!

jon, to random French
@jon@gruene.social avatar

I am in Paris tomorrow and Saturday, and am planning my routes

8.7 of 9.9km on cycle lanes

Ahhhhh 😍

My planning in Paris is no longer “will it be OK to cycle?” which it was a few years ago, to “sure it will, just what's the best route?”

monsieurm,
@monsieurm@mastodon.social avatar

@jon @corentin You can continue along rue de Rivoli to Place de la Concorde, which is very pretty, with a view of the avenue des Champs Élysées and the Arc de Triomphe. Then, take the Pont de la Concorde in front of l'Assemblée Nationale…

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@monsieurm See other toot from @corentin - it's closed off due to Olympics!

jon, to random
@jon@gruene.social avatar

“When I see people say Eurostar is shrinking it drives me crazy, because it’s really not true,” says CEO Cazenave to the FT

https://www.ft.com/content/97f7a39b-0536-40e2-bbdd-e1d755418804

Yeah, because you merged with Thalys - so, surprise surprise, you transported more people

Passenger numbers London - Paris/Bruxelles are still down on the last pre-pandemic year, not least because Eurostar now no longer serves Ebbsfleet and Ashford

jimh,
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@jon yeah, I know they don't currently stop there, both stations are nearby. I was wondering about future options, but it looks like they're limited https://jonworth.eu/the-future-of-long-distance-train-services-through-the-channel-tunnel/

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@jimh Ebbsfleet is the easiest and most viable to reactivate though

jon, to random
@jon@gruene.social avatar

Feeling the Gell Mann Amnesia effect really strongly today

What the effect is - explained https://wmathison.substack.com/p/understanding-the-gell-mann-amnesia

And I’m getting it because of this: https://www.welt.de/reise/nah/article251491844/Reisen-mit-der-Bahn-ins-Ausland-Endlich-kommt-das-europaweite-Ticket.html?trk=feed_main-feed-card_feed-article-content

People keep sharing it into my timelines, being positive. And from a grain of truth Welt constructs a story that’s rubbish. And people who take trains but don’t work on rail topics trust it, even though it’s Welt. And obviously don’t trust a random dude on Mastodon (me) instead

jon, to random French
@jon@gruene.social avatar

Ok, les passionnés de trains parisiens, j'ai besoin de ton aide.

Comme la file d'attente pour les billets des Grandes Lignes était trop longue à la Gare du Nord aujourd'hui, je vais devoir essayer une autre gare vendredi.

Bercy ou la gare de Lyon seraient les plus faciles d'accès, mais j'irai par vélo ailleurs si les files d'attente sont moins longues.

Quel est le terminal parisien où les files d'attente seront les plus courtes ?

tristramg,
@tristramg@mamot.fr avatar

@jon hahaha :) j’imaginais que c’était quelque chose comme ça.

Je me demande que devient le rachat de loco2 (qui selon moi permettait d’avoir aussi les Sparpreise…)

https://www.railwaygazette.com/business/sncf-buys-online-ticket-retailer-loco2/44784.article

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@tristramg Loco2 a été intégré à Rail Europe, propriété de la SNCF. Mais elle l'a vendue l'année dernière. Elle existe donc toujours et peut encore tout vendre, mais ce n'est pas la SNCF.

jon, (edited ) to random
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OK, so when I go to the SNCF Grandes Lignes ticket office shortly at Paris Nord and ask why I cannot buy a ticket to Berlin any more online, and can they help me, what are they going to tell me why it can't be done?

(Answer 4 is the correct answer - but will I get that? Answer 1 is what I received Monday in Strasbourg, Answer 2 is what I got in response to another ticketing data issue in Breil sur Roya last week)

jicka,
@jicka@social.coop avatar

@jon
I had a conversation with a BLS (swiss railway) travel agent. He told me that SBB is on the same trajectory of reducing international sales on their portal and that they (travel agents) now have to book tickets in many different national systems (SNCF, SBB, DB, ÖBB,...). He half jockingly said that it was easier in the 80s !
(While I work at SBB, I don't know anything about this topic and just summarized what I was told)

jon,
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@jicka Sort of. The 1990s digital system has broken down - and what comes next is a mess. But SBB has at least still got all of Switzerland’s neighbouring countries included.

jon, to random
@jon@gruene.social avatar

Well that signup form got what it deserved!

🚲 🚲 🚲 🚲 🚲 🚲

mrtnsnp,
@mrtnsnp@mastodon.social avatar

@jon If you actually get a reserved spot, then I want a picture.

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@mrtnsnp It's more to save myself from the police (who tried to confiscate my bike last time I attended a big EU event with it) - so now I can say it is registered :-) But yes, I will provide a photo if I get a full space to myself.

jon, to random
@jon@gruene.social avatar

Ah

We’ve got another example of that legendary cooperation between state railways today in Köln

Where the Eurostar* stops at the platform is NOT shown on the screens (while for RE and ICE trains it is shown)

So Eurostar employs a person on the platform to tell passengers where to stand 🤦‍♂️

    • Eurostar is 55% SNCF, 18% SNCB
jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

I asked the employee why this info is not on the screens. “It’s always like that” she said. “Is this DB’s fault or Eurostar’s fault?” She shrugged. Whose fault is it I wonder? Did Eurostar not pay to have info displayed? Or it hasn’t got the data in the right format? Or DB is being deliberately difficult?

maartje,
@maartje@blahaj.social avatar

@jon "excuseer reist u met Eurostar?" Staff hired just to ask every person waiting that...efficiency!

jon, to random
@jon@gruene.social avatar

Köln

Crossing the Rhein and I’m back into SNCF territory next - Eurostar to Paris

jon, to random
@jon@gruene.social avatar

DB ICE 731 Hamburg - Köln

A slowish route because all the infra is old. And it’s a ICE 1 from the 1980s, renovated more than a decade ago

But the ambience on board, the comfort of the seats, are still excellent. It’s like someone actually thought “what would passengers actually appreciate in a train interior?”

It doesn’t feel like packing as many people in as possible was the priority. And that’s so nice 😊

can,
@can@mstdn.social avatar

@jon How can I find out which ICE model the train is? Currently on the ICE 783 Hamburg - Munich

akrumeich,
@akrumeich@social.cologne avatar

@jon Not a coincidence that https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICE_1 is today’s “Article of the Day” in the German Wikipedia, is it? 😁

jon, to random
@jon@gruene.social avatar

I’m seeing the claim banded about that Liège 🇧🇪 - Maastricht 🇳🇱 - Aachen 🇩🇪 is “the world’s first three country regional train”

This is WRONG

These have long existed
Nice 🇫🇷 - Monaco 🇲🇨 - Ventimiglia 🇮🇹

Lindau 🇩🇪 - Bregenz 🇦🇹 - St Margreten 🇨🇭

Feldkirch 🇦🇹 - Schaan-Vaduz 🇱🇮 - Buchs 🇨🇭

There is also
Seifhennersdorf 🇩🇪 - Varnsdorf 🇨🇿 - Zittau 🇩🇪 - transits 🇵🇱 - Liberec 🇨🇿

And those are just the ones that spring to mind. There might be others.

This new train is welcome, but it’s no world first.

vorortanleiter,
@vorortanleiter@rail.chat avatar

@jon yes, it started already. However I doubt that it will be a big success, given the location of Villa Opicina station. I don't know whether they arranged a coordinated bus shuttle from downtown Trieste, which might help to attract passengers...

jon,
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@vorortanleiter the timetable is also awful. So no I’m not holding my breath!

BTW did you ever follow the old railway line that’s now a cycle path from Hrpepje Kozina to Trieste? No hope to reactivate, but an amazing 20km.

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