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liaizon

@liaizon@wake.st

working at #MNT in #Berlin these days

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liaizon, to random
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"we fund Matrix dev by selling encrypted messaging to governments, which includes police: if you don’t like that then please feel free to use a different app" May 9th, 2023 -@element

source https://mastodon.matrix.org/@element/110340953550548309

liaizon,
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Well now we know why they changed their name from Riot to Element. Can't have the app be revolutionary themed if your actual audience is the fucking cops

liaizon,
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@theruran @alcinnz Do you have any knowledge as to where the bulk of funding is coming from for those who are supporting the XMPP ecosystem? @tigase whats your funding model look like?

liaizon,
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Element really just told us if we don't like their direction of selling services to cops we should use another app. This is seriously the direction they settled on.

dansup, to random
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I didn't create @pixelfed for myself, and despite my best intentions, I can be wrong sometimes.

My recent post about app onboarding has received both positive and negative feedback, and I'd like to explore alternative solutions to this with feedback from @liaizon, @feditips and anyone else before we proceed.

Pixelfed is for the people, when you speak we listen, and we strive for community consensus despite my own opinion.

Pixelfed is powered by people like you, don't forget that ❤️

liaizon,
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@oblomov @dansup @pixelfed @feditips this was exactly my first response as well. it seems like the smoothest compromise between the two extremes

dansup, to fediverse
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I'm working to improve the @pixelfed mobile app onboarding.

It will probably be seen as more controversial than the Mastodon app.

I'm okay with that.

Some people claim we're emulating popular platforms as if it's a bad thing, like we're selling user data or building communities without safety and moderation.

Ignore them, growth isn't a bad thing, we need to make the easy to join, and moderate!

Every fedi project emulates an existing service, nothing is new lol

liaizon,
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@dansup @pixelfed if this post is about setting up a default server PLEASE dont go down the rout mastodon has taken. Like seriously as someone who has continually hyped pixelfed for years and have been interacting with you since the beginning, having a default server set in the mobile apps is the wrong way to make onboarding easier. There are so many other ways we can go about this

liaizon,
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@dansup @pixelfed what about somesort of server covenant that general servers who want to be included in some sort of prominent placement could join and promise to be on the latest version and be checked to be fully functional and running at a desired speed. then the "default server" button could be randomized between trusted servers, reminiscent of the "im feeling lucky" button google used to have.

liaizon, to random
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So with @matrix and @element explicitly supporting cops and fascist governments what does that mean for their and our anarcho future?

liaizon,
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@matrix @element also the internet came from millions of people pouring their hearts and souls into working on something they love. the internet did not come from getting funding from police. sure there are parts of the internet that have been funded by government agencies who I wish would cease to exist. have I spent time fighting that too? yes. yes I have.

liaizon,
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@matrix @element thats a really unnecessarily terse reply Matrix (Matthew?) You chose by your own process to set up a booth at a police convention to attract police to use your services. You could have simply not made that decision. Yes there is other software that has gone down this path. does that mean I or other community members support that decision? no it does not.

liaizon,
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@feld I have seen your stance on police before so thanks for the life advice but uh good luck with whatever mission your on I guess

liaizon,
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@silberfuchs @matrix @element XMPP our one true hope

rabble, to random
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I talked to David King (https://primal.net/dk) about Nostr vs Bluesky today. He made a video and put it online. Folks might find it interesting. I mention the fediverse some but it wasn’t the focus of the discussion.

https://youtu.be/iIwBDvkkEnQ

liaizon,
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@rabble this was a really good conversation I enjoyed it quite a lot. Just finished watching the whole interview

liaizon, to random
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Thinking about protocols this morning, so I made a list of networking protocol extension procedures, what am I missing?

SIPs
Scuttlebutt Implementation Protocols
https://github.com/ssbc/sips

XEPs
XMPP Extension Protocol
https://xmpp.org/extensions/

FEPs
Fediverse Enhancement Proposals
https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep

MSCs
Matrix Spec Change (MSC) proposals. https://spec.matrix.org/proposals

NIPs
Nostr Implementation Possibilities
https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips

BEPs
BitTorrent Enhancement Proposals
http://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0000.html

liaizon, to random
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new twitter encrypted messenger sounds real secure

liaizon, to random
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has anyone done any calculations on how much money all in all has been spent on the fediverse? sort of an impossible task but would be interesting to see an attempt. all the server bills so far, all the donations to all the projects etc

liaizon,
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@slothrop theres alot of other funding then just server costs tho that might be a bit more difficult

liaizon,
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@slothrop one of the main other sources of funding for fediverse stuff in recent years has been thru NGI, they have funded more fedi infra than anything else https://www.ngi.eu/?s=activitypub+

liaizon, to random
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follow me for hot button topics including "maybe dont support your software project with money from the people who are consistently killing our friends"

atomicpoet, (edited ) to random
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Should I migrate this account (@atomicpoet) to https://calckey.social?

liaizon,
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@atomicpoet @shadowtux is that actually released? I thought work was being done but its not like anyone can just click migrate posts and have it work rn right?

liaizon, to random
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welp I guess my mentions are gonna be going off for a while. thanks a lot element

liaizon,
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@crtbob matrix/element post about them tabling at the police conference getting hundreds of replies

J12t, to random
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Great table of decentralized social projects beyond the ActivityPub universe by @rabble

https://airtable.com/shri7e7EHoTi0cEjO/tblGfBcmj5sJzk2WK/viwPJRXjBeELkIaZZ

liaizon,
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@rabble would love to move this list to a wiki somewhere not on capitalist infra, I might try to reformat it into a page on https://joinfediverse.wiki

liaizon, to random
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Did not expect to get so many messages from people who support the cops today. Just a warning for anyone who is following me: fuck the police. If you are in support of police presence in your communities we have some deep deep disagreements in store that may not be resolvable.

liaizon, to random
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I don't know what to say to anyone who supports the fucking cops in 2023 other then you have been living under a rock. Anyone with a conscience and any view of what police actually do that still support them are in such a bubble I don't know how to relate.

liaizon,
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Re-worded that cause it was confusing. Maybe its still a little confusing. Quite simply: cops bad / no cops = good

liaizon,
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@swansinflight oh what a useful comment you made congrats

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