adamjcook, (edited )

I will say it again...

I do not recall an open letter with thousands of prominent signatories, a hastily-assembled White House Task Force and a big Senate hearing for automated driving systems.

You know... systems that are masquerading as that have killed people and have the capacity to readily cause immediate injury and death.

We have an unregulated Wild West out there on that.

No, no.

Let's sound the alarm over a goddamned chatbot.

Craktok,
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@adamjcook Isn’t that because there are already automotive laws around? We certainly have them in England and they also govern self driving vehicles.

adamjcook,

@Craktok There are effectively no regulations in the US.

There is no competent regulator to enforce them.

Any automated driving system regulations that exist, exist as a patchwork at the US state level.

Those regulations are extremely weak and do not even attempt to regulate partial automated driving systems (i.e. , SuperCruise, Blue Cruise and so on).

Craktok,
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@adamjcook damn, I guess there are some weaknesses to the republic states setup. It’s amazing to consider the White House doesn’t have the power I assumed as a kid.

adamjcook,

@Craktok The , the federal car safety regulator, actually has some pretty broad powers, in theory.

But decades of subservience to automakers have eroded their independence, competence and credibility.

The NHTSA has only had a whole 3 months with a permanent administrator during ’s term.

The White House could have made some powerful moves, without Congress, to significantly rein in this Wild West… but they have not, across three different administrations now.

adamjcook,

@Craktok Even the , being today probably the most robust it has even been in recent memory, refuses to rein in clear-cut, deceptive advertising that allows consumers to dangerously think their automated vehicles are more capable than they are.

dgavin,
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@adamjcook @jeffjarvis Thousands of people are dying every day because of human drivers. When are we going to do something about this and make driving AI mandatory? Because in fact AI is a much better driver than the average human.

adamjcook,

@dgavin @jeffjarvis Progressively safe systems are built atop previously safer systems.

Step by step.

A strong foundation of safety that continuously evolves.

This is the only path to realizing a safer roadway, if these systems can provide some benefit.

Regulations should ensure that this path is followed by all.

Automated driving systems have caused avoidable, unnecessary injury and death due to sloppy engineering and deceptive marketing without resolution.

183231bcb,

@adamjcook But Microsoft spent hundreds of millions of dollars to make a text generator that's worse than from 2006, so clearly that's more important than people dying in car crashes.

Prainbow,
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@adamjcook The automobile rules.

Mabande,
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@adamjcook I'd like 'em to do both, please. The chatbot's already talked people into suicide (and likely talked people out of getting medical treatment), so while maybe less lethal this far it too (or rather, the businesses launching not-ready products onto the public, whether it's "autonomous" cars, "AI" chatbots, or whatever they're trying to make a quick buck on at the moment) should be scrutinized.

adamjcook,

@Mabande Yes. I do not oppose regulations on these chatbots and whatnot.

My point is that the current conversations around this, that have thus far entirely ignored automated driving systems, are myopic and hypocritical… if the true goal of this sudden alarm is to protect the public.

The Wild West I speak of has existed for about 10 years now in the US and there has been nothing close to this outcry when people were killed as a direct consequence of sloppy engineering and deceptive marketing.

Mabande,
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@adamjcook Yep, more driven by trying to stop the other guy from delivering a more popular product than public safety.

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