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    nk,
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    @dimitrisk
    Why not use a lot of single-user servers?

    tchambers,

    @dimitrisk

    Lots of good reasons to distribute the load of users and I am a huge fan of decentralizing & building out a big base of mid-sized well run servers and admins.

    (I run one that I think of as well run.)

    Am an even bigger fan of small servers with dozens of users that are part of close, small communities.

    I think the only question at hand is the best way to do quality onboarding and simple onramps to the Fediverse.

    It's a UX issue ONLY & one that I think can be solved.

    witchescauldron,

    @tchambers

    This miss the point entirely, and illustrates the problem, worth thinking about this.

    The point is people like you, i.e. a group of people who think alike and act alike, very much like the people behind the DAMAGE will do without some rebalancing.

    If people like you treat this ONLY as a issue, then you are the problem. And yes, I did notice you took me out of this thread and will likely block soon.

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    @dimitrisk

    tchambers,

    @witchescauldron @dimitrisk

    Think you misundersand me, I think there is not a disagreement on the need for decentralization, only a difference on the best means to onboard cleanly and also support decentralizing.

    If you think I missed some point on the need for decentralizing LMK where.

    Also: promise I didn't remove you from this thread, just replied to the original post from Dimitris. And no plan to block on my side.

    witchescauldron,

    @tchambers


    @davidslifka

    OK the backlash is building over this mess... we need the people PUSHING it to, stop, take a breath, read up, and then talk to the people commenting and rebalance the path, it's a good path. But currently it is pushing mess, the resulting stink from this puts people off our friendly space.

    It's easy to get a consensus on a better path for this, @dimitrisk has already put one forward that works.

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    witchescauldron,

    @dimitrisk "by suggesting a set of, let's say five, random, not so crowded, instances by topic -art, tech, politics, etc." this is a good simple idea.

    Also, there should be a bit of text on what the Fediverse is, with mastodon as a part, and a link to a 3ed party site.

    Basic to remove the strong silo feeling. @tchambers

    I understand the project is to make it feel "normal" that's fine, but do some basics as well please :)

    nk,
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    @witchescauldron
    @dimitrisk @tchambers

    Bad idea.
    Look, you promote bad tools for a more or less good approach. You promote staying on a random server, whose owner you don't know, with people you don't know, just making an illusion of a theme community.
    And after they will find out that this server is not good for them, they will figure out they cannot transfer their posts to another server.
    Let people organize themselves in communities without an owner — let them run their own servers and recommend people to start following.

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  • witchescauldron,

    @dimitrisk @nk @tchambers

    The short text what is the Fediverse could get very long, think the bulk should be on the 3ed party landing page - best to use an existing one.

    Huge discushern on this is self-defeating, so is best.

    nk,
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    @dimitrisk
    @witchescauldron @tchambers

    I believe it shall be the only reasonable option, stating that other public servers are temporary and one cannot transfer the messages.

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