MastodonEngineering,
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The second beta of 4.2.0 has arrived. We're getting there! See the extensive changelog and upgrade instructions here:

https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/releases/tag/v4.2.0-beta2

yairhal,

@MastodonEngineering Can you please add the possibility to search for stocks using hashtag $ ?

For example $msft $aapl etc.

yairhal,

@MastodonEngineering Can you please add a bookmark botton like on X?

alexhammy,
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@MastodonEngineering nice :verified420:

JamesGleick,
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@MastodonEngineering @tchambers Is there a place for non-experts to go for information on how/when these changes will affect us? Does it depend on our instance and our interface software (if any)?

tcely,
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Sadly, I don't know how some of these changes will affect me.

I don't use the bundled web client, so I will ignore those changes.

When your instance admin, or more likely their hosting company, upgrades the software to the newly released version, then you'll discover if something broke in your client.

Adding two API versions to Mastodon would be great! Then your client can switch to the -previous API until it's updated. App devs could use -next to prepare.

@JamesGleick
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ittu,

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@MastodonEngineering @tchambers

you could use a chatgpt, bing chat or google bard to explain technical information in a user friendly way.

my bing chat request in 'Creative' mode
https://pastebin.com/rEhzMdQA

bing response:

https://pastebin.com/0zHX3mqt

I made a follow up request to "reexamine my original request and write a summary of changes that end users will see in an understandable way"

Okay, I will try to write a summary of changes that end users will see in Mastodon version 4.2.0-beta2. Here is what I came up with:

Mastodon is a social network that lets you communicate with people from different websites that use the same protocol. In the latest version of Mastodon, some new features and improvements have been added to make your experience better. Here are some of the changes that you will notice:

You can now change your privacy and reach settings in one place. This lets you control who can see and interact with your posts and account more easily. You can find this option in your profile settings under the “Privacy and reach” tab.

When you write a post with hashtags, they will be shown separately at the bottom of your post. This makes it easier to see what topics your post is about and to search for them.

When someone sends you a message or edits their message, Mastodon will automatically refresh their account information. This means you will always see the latest profile picture, display name, and bio of the person you are talking to.

If you are an administrator of a Mastodon server, you can see more information about how your server is using Elasticsearch on the dashboard. Elasticsearch is a tool that helps you search for posts and accounts faster and more accurately.

Mastodon can now understand a new attribute for remote actors. An actor is a term for an account or a group on Mastodon or other websites that use the same protocol. The new attribute tells Mastodon whether the actor can be searched for or not.

There are two new options in the REST API for deleting your avatar and header images. The REST API is a way for developers to interact with Mastodon using code. These options let you remove your profile pictures without uploading new ones.

There are some new environment variables for compatibility and customization of some settings and tools. An environment variable is a setting that affects how Mastodon works on your server. These variables let you adjust some aspects of how Mastodon stores files online, searches data, clears cache, and accesses database.

The follow recommendation materialized view has been changed to be faster in most cases. This is a technical term for how Mastodon generates suggestions for who to follow based on your interests and activity. This change means you will see more relevant and up-to-date recommendations faster.

Some bugs have been fixed, such as blocking subdomains of an already-blocked domain, preserving the language from the replied-to post, making the “Create Account” button in the interaction modal work, fixing the styling of the unfollow icon in the advanced column, showing the “legal” report category in the moderation interface, updating the stats of cached posts, uploading video files with unusual framerate, and matching the avatar and header image preview in profile settings.

These are some of the changes that end users will see in Mastodon version 4.2.0-beta2. I hope this summary helps you understand what’s new and improved in Mastodon!

JamesGleick,
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@ittu @MastodonEngineering @tchambers I would not trust any text generated by ChatGPT to be accurate and reliable. It’s not designed for that. It’s designed to generate text that sounds plausible.

Piky_Nieves,
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@MastodonEngineering
Good! There's something that needs fixing. It is the issue with Ntfy receiving/sending push notifications from/to Tusky or Fedilab apps.

terrygrundy,
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@MastodonEngineering Thanks for all you do!

danny,
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seachanger,
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  • mattswift,

    @seachanger @mikey @MastodonEngineering @fediversereport To clarify a bit further as well, if there are loads and loads of hashtags, it will also show a "+ x more" as well, so it can't take up an infinite amount of space. Here's the example from Eugen's first proposal for this: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/26260

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  • mattswift,

    @seachanger @mikey @MastodonEngineering @fediversereport True, although I'd question exactly how many people are using the web UI on a phone - probably looks fine on a desktop, maybe!

    sweveris,

    @mikey @seachanger @MastodonEngineering @fediversereport
    Oh my goodness that'd be incredible!

    ElStevo,
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    denspier, (edited )
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    @MastodonEngineering Does this Mastodon version finally fix markdown text?

    renchap,
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    @denspier @MastodonEngineering Is there an issue open for this, or could you please provide more details?

    denspier,
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    @renchap @MastodonEngineering Mastodon strips markdown in texts from other servers and fediverse platforms. Not only are paragraphs and lists stripped, but even simple markdown such as italic, bold, and strikethrough are removed. As it compromises the meaning of the original text, this is clearly a bug.

    As for Mastodon itself there have been many tickets over the years suggesting simple markdown features. That such a basic yet vital function is still missing is frankly disappointing.

    renchap,
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    @denspier @MastodonEngineering Support for Markdown from federated servers has been added in 4.2 (see https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/23913)

    Authoring posts with Markdown is planned, but we did not had time to get it done for 4.2.

    denspier,
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    @renchap @MastodonEngineering Now that some good news! Glad to hear it. ⭐️

    Brendanjones,
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    @renchap @denspier @MastodonEngineering To clarify, what does this mean for the UI? Posts with markdown from non-Mastodon sources will render with markdown formatting, but not Mastodon posts?

    denspier,
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    @Brendanjones @renchap @MastodonEngineering To my understanding yes. One bug corrected, good, and one feature left to be added to Mastodon in the near future, also good.

    renchap,
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    @Brendanjones @denspier @MastodonEngineering Correct. Writing Markdown from Mastodon is still planned, but it needs some work to be done safely.

    Brendanjones,
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    @renchap @denspier @MastodonEngineering If I use markdown syntax in my posts now, do they render as markdown on any other sites?

    renchap,
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    @Brendanjones @denspier @MastodonEngineering No it wont, statuses content is HTML, so the originating instance needs to transform it into HTML.
    The change in 4.2 is that we support specific tags from federated posts, rather than stripping everything.

    Brendanjones,
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    @renchap @denspier @MastodonEngineering Thanks for the explanation.

    denspier,
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    @renchap @Brendanjones @MastodonEngineering There’s clear advantages with this approach. Bug fix first, features next, that’s always the right priority. A chance to weed out rendering issues, should there be any, on a comparably smaller volume of posts and comments is also good. More time for app developers to adapt is a third benefit. Good move.

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