neuracnu,
@neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

A high quality version of the map can be found at the bottom of this PDF: …dot.gov/…/FY22 CID Project Summaries-Map.pdf

And here’s a screenshot of the high-res map: imgur.com/dHbLmXL

eran_morad,

MVP

Asifall,

Seems like still basically 0 high speed rail.

CCatMan,

Nah, get to Vegas fast

pelespirit,
@pelespirit@sh.itjust.works avatar

As someone who lives in Seattle, the high speed we’d be getting is great. It would go from Vancouver BC down to Portland. My guess is that there would be an ask for high speed to connect the bay area to portland in the future.

Edit: I’m not sure we’d even need it since it’s pretty rural through the areas not high speed because there aren’t a lot of stops.

azimir,

I’ve wanted that train route for decades now. PDX to BC in a few hours? Wonderful! If it had a stop within shouting distance of downtown in all three cities, stops within 10 mins of the airports (or even right at them) and a connection to the new line to Bellevue… Amazing.

That’s a great spine to build a regional network on. Start putting light rail into all of the stations, local trams, and if you’d be nice to us on the east side, a interurban line to Spokane that would leave during the day. Bam! Cascadia is in great shape.

pelespirit,
@pelespirit@sh.itjust.works avatar

a interurban line to Spokane

The hold up on that would probably be the mountains, there’s a lot of mountains.

Serinus,

Have we built roads through those mountains?

Furbag,

Thanks for the made-for-human-eyes version. Sadly, I am not an ant, so I couldn’t see the one from the article.

Voyajer,
@Voyajer@lemmy.world avatar

No Louisville → Etown → Bowling Green → Nashville connection is weird.

2piradians,

Leave it to the federal government to put the most informative piece at the END of the release, and then to botch that as well.

Guntrigger,

Someone is playing Ticket To Ride and going for that longest continuous route.

Subverb,

Yeah, it’ll never happen. Seen too many projects like this come and go over the decades.

shasta,

Building it is only part of the solution. The other part is making it affordable to use. The rail in Florida was basically already built, and recently. The problem is that it’s not affordable as an option for residents. A weekend trip from Orlando to Miami is $120 (one way) www.gobrightline.com/booking. It costs half that in gas to drive round trip, and takes about the same time too.

UnPassive,

In my opinion, public transportation doesn’t need to be profitable. Subsidized by taxes, like our freeways. Adds to the economy and is worth the investment

nutsack,

is there a bigger version of this image? i can’t read that blurry shit

DAMunzy,

The image on the US Department of Transportation isn’t much better: transportation.gov/…/Fed State Map 12.8.2023.png

DeadBeRisen@lemmy.world found a PDF with a vector image down below. You can open the PDF and zoom in to your heart’s content.

tanja,

It’s the last page is the PDF: …dot.gov/…/FY22 CID Project Summaries-Map-r1.pdf

In case they use some kind of hotlink protection, here’s the link to the main website: railroads.dot.gov/…/fy22-CID-program-selections

HawlSera,

Monorail!

seanziepples,

Mono-d’oh!

frezik,

But why?

Socsa,

ITT: “I like trains but this is bad because I can’t admit that Biden is capable of doing anything good.”

Cynicism is what’s killing America. Faster than any politics. Look in the mirror and grow the fuck up.

mlg,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

I would bet actual cash money we will not see any high speed train outside of California in the next 10 years.

I was high on copium for a decade that Obama was gonna give me fiber internet and it never happened.

This isn’t cynicism, this is just a giant novelty size pork barrel filled with rotting lard like the last several nationwide infrastructure projects were.

DragonTypeWyvern,

Well, he tried, but it turns out it’s more profitable to just steal the money and hire some lawyers with part of it.

frezik,

Well, you probably already lost that bet, because the LA->Vegas train is likely to be done before 2033 (even with some setbacks in the schedule). In fact, it’ll probably be done before LA->San Fransisco. It follows an existing highway route, so there isn’t much fight over land use. Most of the things that bog down these projects already seem to be cleared for it. Also helps that there isn’t a lot in between LA and Vegas; you don’t have every town over 10k people demanding they get a stop.

mlg,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

Ok you got me there. I forgot Nevada is part of this, and they’re aiming for 2028 for the next Olympics.

TokenBoomer,

this is just a giant novelty size pork barrel filled with rotting lard

That took my imagination for a high speed ride.

willis936,

I don’t need a train. I need rent that isn’t 60% of my take home, or, better yet, a house. What’s that? NYT is saying that’s never going to happen and that I should just be okay with it. Oh and the economy’s doing great.

marx2k,

What did your want Biden to do about your rent?

willis936,

Put capital gains tax on housing investments. Divert all cash from a pie in the sky train program for housing subsidies.

Tinidril,

Housing subsidies raise the overall cost, and the middle class still gets to pay the bill. It has its place for low incomes, but it’s counterproductive when done too broadly. I’m definitely in favor of taxing investment real estate though.

Ryumast3r,

This “pie in the sky” train system is currently using like none of the federal budget. Find something else to cut money from.

abracaDavid,

We should have both. The trains will do a lot for regular people, and so would bringing back capital gains taxes.

AA5B,

Read the news. There’s a few things being tried, but one guy can’t unilaterally do everything, even if you’re president

frezik,

Most of the things that would improve the housing market would be done at the city level. Getting hedge funds out of owning houses would be nice, but zoning and higher density are things done by your local city council.

willis936,

I am surrounded by hundreds of empty units owned by a few multinational corporations subcontracting out their properties to the same management firm. They all use the same profit maximizing algorithm with a shared database. It’s very illegal. I don’t think a city could win a fight against a single billionaire, let alone a legion of them. I don’t see my city even trying. Right now some tenants across the country are suing, which is an even more damned approach. This needs a federal stick.

gun,
@gun@lemmy.ml avatar

Cynicism

Because it’s the people’s fault and a little attitude adjustment will fix everything

LufyCZ,

It sure will if not fix, at least improve your overall mood, and consequently your life

SupraMario,

I don’t agree with him often, but damn we should have put in a rail system decades ago.

crystalmerchant,

The best time was decades ago, the second best time is now!

SupraMario,

Can’t disagree with that!

primordial,

yeah it’s kind of difficult to feel good about it when it’s coming on the back of him / congress enabling literal genocide on the other side of the planet, thanks

HawlSera, (edited )

I blame the aftermath of the New Atheist movement tbh.

Go around telling people there’s no mysticism, it’s all pointless, and misery is enlightenment and be shocked when everyone is sad.

Numuruzero,

You’re talking about nihilism, not atheism. Atheism does not preclude humanism.

HawlSera,

New Atheism is a fast track to Nihilism

WeirdGoesPro,
@WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’m not sure y’all know what nihilism means. Assuming you are talking about Nietzsche’s nihilism, he described it as a series of transformational stages where a new understanding of self would necessarily emerge while the control structure of religion slowly crumbled away in modernity. He argued that this idea was so revolutionary that it would be news to atheists too.

There isn’t even a lot of despair or handwringing about it—he just points out that we need a new type of operating parameters to meet the modern world head on:

“…we are faced with a difficult, long term restoration project in which the most cherished aspects of our way of life must be ruthlessly investigated, dismantled, and then reconstructed in healthier form—all while we continue somehow to sail the ship of our common ethical life on the high seas.”

plato.stanford.edu/entries/nietzsche/

HawlSera,

I"m not, I’m talking about the Modern Reimagining where it’s just being depressed all the time.

Cannacheques,

Even if you don’t necessarily believe in a God, unless you’re proud of cynicism without rationale (your typical teen), considering people have gotten this far, both collectively, and if you imagine your father or mother’s life, you’d still believe in something good, even if it’s just the power of money, or laughing at life’s misery in general

Fedizen,

Its also just like every time I see an american flag I’m like “oh this person hates americans”.

RememberTheApollo_,

And all the lawyers and opponents are salivating at the prospect of getting in the way of the project and miring it in profitable legal battles.

Pratai,

Have we reached the Empty Promises™ section of the debate trail already?

emptiestplace,

Wow, apparently this one is offensive.

Pratai,

You honestly think he’s going to deliver on this? You clearly don’t know how presidential campaigns work.

emptiestplace,

Fuck off, I was criticizing the idiots downvoting you.

Pratai,

Can you see how what you said could be taken different than intended?

emptiestplace,

No. That’s stupid. “Apparently” implies I don’t think so i.e. “the crowd [except me] seems to think”. Please do better before you get sanctimonious with me.

This is the dumbest exchange I’ve had on lemmy, I want my money back.

Pratai,

I’ll save you future embarrassment…

emptiestplace,

By failing to demonstrate how you are correct? I guess…

vsh,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

30 years late. At this point just upgrade our roads in rural areas.

Necronomicommunist,

The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago, second best time is today.

Daxtron2,

It’s late so we shouldn’t do it all? Brain dead take

JoJoGAH,

For at least 30 years middle Georgia (USA) has asked for rail commute to Atlanta and Savannah.

Now see…this rail used to be a passenger rail. Somehow this ended and we can’t get it back.

With the abysmal traffic in Atlanta, this would seemingly call for enthusiasm. Somehow the issue always dies quietly after a poll is given.

Living in Savannah, I’d really just like the old passenger schedule to re open.

Not gonna happen anytime soon.

reagansrottencorpse,

I lived in Savannah for 5 years for college.

I really miss that city, I haven’t been back since 2009. Say hi for me.

Facebones,

I served at Ft Stewart and loved visiting Savannah ❤️

JoJoGAH,

Will do!

abracaDavid,

I can’t believe there’s not a plan for a rail from Atlanta to New Orleans also. There is so much back and forth from Atlanta to New Orleans these days.

CaptainHowdy,

I think this already exists with Amtrak. I think it’s called the southern crescent.

RGB3x3,

My god, a rail system all the way down I-75, A STRAIGHT FUCKING SHOT PERFECT FOR A TRAIN, would be amazing.

Instead, we got more Peach Pass that is seemingly never open on the side that actually needs it.

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

So…what if the railroad companies take the money and then do absolutely nothing, like what happened every single time this has been tried? What is there to hold them accountable this time?

SupraMario,

Add telcoms to that list as well… almost a trillion was given to them to get broadband in all homes in the USA…poof

Trainguyrom,

Broadband is getting better! My in-laws who live in the boonies a few miles outside of a tiny town of 400 are jumping from ~2-4mbit/s download speed to fiber to the home, and I’ve seen broadband expansion in my extremely rural area by multiple telecom companies! It’s obviously slow going but it is happening

AA5B,

Good to hear. We had a quick expansion of fiber a couple decades ago and it seemed like it just stopped there. You never hear about more fiber rollout

SupraMario,

That’s surprising…only way we are getting it here is from our power company which is a coop. They’re basically running it to all the homes they supply power to. Only another 2-3 years for us.

AA5B,

In the one hand, most of these allocations are to fund planning studies, so that’s exactly what will happen

In the other hand this is not like the telecom situation where we hand money to private companies promising to provide service. It’s generally infrastructure improvements and I believe project ownership is Amtrak or local DOT

Adalast,

In fairness, last time this was tried we had Husky Musky employing a fraud with the explicit intent of killing the high-speed rail. Toss on a host of republican opposition and undermining in 2013± and you have the reason why it failed. It has nothing to do with the rail companies. It has everything you do with political dysfunction and not wanting to “let liberals win”.

nutsack,

what would be the point in killing the high speed rail project? to defend tesla sales?

natebluehooves,

The general theory is that musk dislikes any public transit that decreases car dependency. My personal feelings are more along the lines of “rich dumbass doesn’t like ideas that help the poors”, but obviously that may very well be cynicism on my part.

Adalast,

Generally, also pompous-ass disease. As the other user mentioned, Musk has pretty systematically worked against the 99% for his entire adult life. The idea that a normal everyday person could afford a ticket from LA to San Francisco that would get them there in roughly the same amount of time as his private jet would probably have infuriated him beyond compare. Just look at how he reacted to a college student forwarding publicly available information about the movements of that very same jet.

nutsack,

I don’t like musk at all but this is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard and probably isn’t true

optissima,

Sounds like you’ve never heard musk speak

Adalast,

Really? www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63978323It is 100% real. Just to be clear, in early 2022 Husky Musky got butt-hurt about the account and attempted fo give the kid $5,000 to shut it down, thinking he would just take the money and comply. He refused and laughed at him. A couple of months later, we start hearing talk of him buying twitter. About a month after buying twitter he bans the account after making some retarded changes to the ToS to justify it. Yes, I am literally saying he spent 44billion dollars because some 19-year-old in Florida pissed him off and there was nothing he could do about it because the kid was 100% within his rights and didn’t violate any rules of twitter. I’m sure he had additional motivations, like having control of a cesspool of pro-conservative nutbags that he thought he would be able to milk for power and money, but short of Elon Musk pulling up in front of my house and showing genuine human emotion besides anger to tell me that it is not the case, the primary reason he bought twitter is because a peon had the audacity to tell him no and he was impotent to do anything about it.

nutsack,

that has nothing to do with high speed rail. why are people upvoting this toilet garbage comment i hate reddit

Adalast,

Lol, I am supporting my assertion of the underlying reasoning for his decisions based on real and factual evidence. It is an inductive argument. Look at a problem, find a pattern, find a general description for the pattern, then execute the general description on further instances of the system.

I asserted that Elon Musk was a pompous assclown who looks down on normal people and thinks they don’t deserve to be capable of the same things as him. You challenged that assessment, so I found a pattern of behavior and was able to support it with evidence that validates it, then generalizing the pattern of behavior and applying that generalization to my original assertion still yields a true output, so therefore 'ole Husky Musky is a pompous assclown who sees fit to punish the little guy and make sure we are all kept in our place. QED ∎

(to my math literate comrades, the redundancy is a joke)

alienanimals,

Lol why is the image at the bottom of the article so tiny? I want to see the map.

MaxVoltage,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

dont click

dude sent mr me straight to a FEDPOST

yoast,

its a map for ants

Classy,

Fucking Republicans slashed funding for the Democrat imaging software and now they can’t afford more than 0.5mb!

DeadBeRisen,

It took a bit to find a map that isn’t so tiny, but the main thing to know is the red lines are high speed rails, and the blue lines are conventional rails. The solid lines versus dotted lines differentiate between FSP-N selections and CID selections.

A PDF can be found Here.

DAMunzy,

Yes, vector images for the win!

Onfire,

The US desperately needs a high speed rail road. It’s long overdue. It’s the future. This should be a bi-partisan project.

MaxVoltage,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

no it does not it needs to return to horse vehicles and french style conventional rail

teuast,

france has world class high speed rail

Pyrozo007,

France is literally renowned for its tgv

MaxVoltage,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

thats the joke

nutsack,

why is this being downtown voted

clearleaf,

Finally someone is making sense. Also replace guns with open carry swords.

Flyingostrich,

That’s the peak of self defence. No one is mugging someone carrying an arming sword or rapier.

Yo u want to break into my house? Cool I have a pike with your name on it and a long hallway.

MrMcGasion,

All these decades of conversations about the best firearms for home-defense when indoor jousting was the real answer all along.

rottingleaf,

Well, jousting or not - an axe is a legal option. Just sharpen it well.

HawlSera,

Bi-Partisan? You’re speaking the language of Cthulhu at this point

lazylion_ca,

WTYP is about to have a circle jerk.

fne8w2ah,

And of course the automobile and oil lobbies will have such a massive fit that these plans end up always going nowhere.

MaxVoltage,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

oil choo choos are cool bro deal with it

teuast,

maybe but they’re less cool than non-oil ones

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