adamjcook,

Interesting moves in the changing space lately (in the US and in Canada).

It sure would have been nice for the US to mandate some open charging standard years ago, but it seems that everyone is coalescing around 's so-called NCAS "standard".

Right now, it seems to me that NCAS is not actually a standard, but rather, an open specification.

Hopefully, this gets on an independent standards track.

Closed standards are bad for consumers.

https://news.gm.com/newsroom.detail.html/Pages/news/us/en/2023/jun/0608-gm.html

adamjcook,

I do not really follow automaker business financials and plans closely (not being an investor in anything), but hopefully, this joint -Pilot- gets built as previously planned.

Such locations seem to really check a lot of boxes for consumers, perhaps uniquely so.

Safe, well-lit, good 24/7 amenities and good locations next to major highway exits.

And a consistent customer experience, possibly.

https://news.gm.com/newsroom.detail.html/Pages/news/us/en/2022/jul/0714-gmpilot.html

adamjcook,

To build on my Toot above, and granted again, I am not well-acquainted with 's thinking here, but this seems like a mistake if it impacts the aforementioned GM-Pilot-EVGo project.

It is unclear from the GM Press Release above what the cost obligations were between all three players.

So a $400 million cut from a previously announced $750 million figure... but it is unclear what that $750 million consisted of in terms of projects.

GM seemingly has a couple irons in the fire.

adamjcook,

Frankly, and I know had an ongoing "community charging" project like this already, I think the focus should be on aggressively expanding at-destination charging access - at hotels, at restaurants, at rest stops, in parking garages, etcetera.

That would lower fast charger demand considerably in my view.

Then again, we should be aggressively moving away from our outsized dependency in the US anyways... but that is a whole other story.

imstilljeremy,
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@adamjcook

Almost paying to install them at every gas station along an interstate. Not necessarily many, but even 1 per gas station along every interstate would be transformative.

adamjcook,

@imstilljeremy has (or had) this DCFC program with Flying J/Pilot - locations that are everywhere in the US.

has a recently-announced DCFC program with TravelCenters of America - locations which are just about everywhere else in the US.

If those two programs got cracking over the next two years... I think US demand needs could be met, at least in the medium-term.

CrackedWindscreen,
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@adamjcook from my understanding, they’re having to do it because the public charging network is so dreadful in the US it’s the only reliable one. Tesla should’ve done this years ago. Think of the money they’d have made!

adamjcook,

@CrackedWindscreen I think... it is all just a byproduct of the US dragging its feet on everything.

I just see it as more "free market" crap and extremely poor federal planning.

went out and dumped money into charging infrastructure years ago.

And the US could not even manage to establish a bloc-wide standard, unlike the .

I see the potential for long-term consumer harm here given the mess of all of this.

CrackedWindscreen,
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@adamjcook A m'collegue now lives on your side of The Pond, I am more aware than ever that much of the US is like a third world country, in terms of infrastructure, thanks to "free markets" and criminal underinvestment.

Such a mad situation to be in.

adamjcook,

@CrackedWindscreen Indeed.

The fact that I was drinking water out of my bathtub for three days when I lived in during Snowmageddon - all because refuses to integrate its power grid with the rest of the US - is just the cherry on top.

This country is really in rough shape and it needs to shape up soon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Texas_power_crisis

pmroman,
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@adamjcook @CrackedWindscreen I think the biggest problem in the is the production of electricity itself: we produce far less than required for the electrification of vehicles by 2035.

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