I find #mainstreaming people to be actually mad and increasingly bad. When do we get more #4opens people pushing change challenge in these #openweb spaces, please?
Am increasingly seeing this #blocking as a culture of fear, or more real as a culture of fear pushed as power politics.
The @sovtechfund is offering grants to people who contribute to a sustainable open source ecosystem. Grants go up to €300,000 per application and cover three main topics:
Improve FOSS Developer Tooling
Securing FOSS Software Production
FOSS Infrastructure Documentation
With this program the Sovereign Tech Fund seeks to stimulate an open digital infrastructure: fundamental technologies that enable the creation of other software.
Pouring money down the drain, because the majority of the problems in the #Fediverse and the #openweb are social not technical - if they only fund technical parts of this culture they are feeding the "problem" and this problem is going to pour the resources down the drain.
I understand this is a hard conversation to have, we have to try.
First step is #4opens, WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE PUSHING MESS while doing "good", step into the light please #openprocess
yes, I understand the fear this creates and the desire to #block, but this then makes the #4opens fail more visible if people wont to use this for the needed change and challenge if they don't yes it's more noise what are you signal or noise :)
People are suiciding the idea of the #openweb agen, they just can't help themselves. 40 years of worshipping of the #deathcult affects people's attempt to be humane "common sense" wins in the current mess each time.
There’s an interesting parallel universe where “open culture” is primarily about community, not licensing, and in that universe the reddit+stackover moderator strikes are the most interesting thing to happen in open culture in a long time.
We need consensus on this: The #4opens is a social retelling of #FOSS and #opensource to bring focus and power back to our community that we lost to the #dotcons for the last 20 years.
The #4opens is a social retelling of #FOSS and #opensource to bring focus and power back to our communers that we lost to the #dotcons for the last 20 years.
We are about to kick off a campaign that sums up our critical engagement with the term “openness”. Every Wednesday for the next 10 weeks, we will be sharing resources on where #OpenMovement currently stands 📬 Looking forward to your feedback!
@openfuture@witchescauldron Good, what are your thoughts on #4opens as a useful social retelling of #foss development as a tool to build consensus to move away from the current social #techshit mess.
thanks for sharing your #4opens framework. We're interested in this kind of approaches, that conceptualize openness as an approach that cannot be reduced to a single move (like licensing).
We've been exploring them based on the assumption that there is still room for traditional, vanilla open approaches - but also increasingly stronger forms of governing the commons are needed.
By the way, I think that a lot of open projects (be it open source development, or collaborative content production, citizen science, etc. are actually based on quite complex open frameworks, but only parts of them (licensing in particular) are well structured / codified and made legible - a lot of the other stuff is undefined / invisible.
Everything the OP says is accomplished by #AGPL + https://spi-inc.org without the social overheads their proposal has.
The most useful point was probably about the number of "me-too" projects that abound in #FOSS. The most irritating for me way back was #GNU Sather. Focusing on formats/protocols is useful, and the #4opens approach soounds better for that than FOSS.
there will be lots of VERY bad behaver from the every side in this #openweb reboot, let's try and keep diversity of voices in place with #4opens process. Please don't become a prat, as it's easy to start, and It's hard to stop, mess and more mess.
The project of the #4opens for the last ten years, is a non-legalistic path towards codification of #FOSS culture. A tool to compost healthy soil to nurture seeds of hope.
Well if it isn't cryptocurrency spam coming from the biggest, open instance on the #Fediverse. 👀
I wonder if this is at all related to challenges with moderating an instance of checks notes 200k active accounts? Or with moderating new accounts on the only instance actively promoted in the official apps? :thinking_rotate:
Thankfully we can always defederate! What's that? It's the biggest instance so there are real concerns about a lot of people losing connections? Whodda thunk it!
We talk about our "culture" from this consensus building we social "police" our "commons" it's basic stuff we should not need to talk about, it's natural if we are not worshiping a #deathcult
The project of the #4opens for the last ten years, is a non-legalistic path towards codification of #FOSS culture. A tool to compost healthy soil to nurture seeds of hope.
@rabble@kristian I have been arguing strongly that the Fediverse does not need encrypted DM's and that this function should be outsourced to chat apps.
Implementing encrypted DM's rases the bar on sever admins/codebases to be more security consues and capable... currently they do not have to be as practically everything is in the #open, security is a white lie.
On the image the is no padlock on the paper plans and no fixed path on their flight, we built this way for a recision #4opens
The #4opens has many useful roles, one that needs highlighting now is grassroots tech projects being pushed aside by obviously parasite #NGO and #fashernista tech projects that grow from them.
Over the last 20 years, in my in-depth expirence this happens in every case
The open process makes visible this #techshit, so we can compost it at source.
Use the #4opens in all your grassroots tech, please.
At the moment, we have a libertarian cats mess. This is natural #blocking that
people need to stop and take the step #4opens, then the next step #OGB etc.