Taffer, to AWS
@Taffer@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

I briefly looked at AWS S3 Glacier storage, thinking maybe having a second cloud host for my backups would be good.

I can't actually figure out how much this will cost me because they charge per operation (you know, like PUT, GET, etc.) in addition to the storage costs (which I easily figured out).

The kicker? I work at AWS. 🤷

kboyd,
@kboyd@phpc.social avatar

@Taffer After many years of putting it off, this month I added a lifecycle rule to my backup bucket to convert objects to Glacier instant retrieval.

My guess is that it will cut my storage costs nearly in half.

But i can only guess, because understanding AWS pricing is impossible.

timbray, to fediverse
@timbray@cosocial.ca avatar

In which I notice that AWS’s S3 is getting more and more competition all the time, and thus the object-storage space is becoming interesting, and also that there’s a angle: https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2024/05/05/On-Storage
Names are named.

kerfuffle, to AWS
@kerfuffle@mastodon.online avatar

People may want to reconsider using for static web hosting, or at the bare minimum come up with convoluted names and treat their S3 bucket name as sensitive information. If your S3 bucket name comes up in any web search (for example because it's literally in a public GitHub repo), that's a potential attack vector.

https://medium.com/@maciej.pocwierz/how-an-empty-s3-bucket-can-make-your-aws-bill-explode-934a383cb8b1

kerfuffle,
@kerfuffle@mastodon.online avatar

And as this was as good an excuse as any, I've gone and migrated all my static sites and deleted all S3 buckets I still had lying around.

kerfuffle,
@kerfuffle@mastodon.online avatar
frankel, to AWS
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encthenet, to Amazon
@encthenet@flyovercountry.social avatar

The whole S3 charging for unauthorized/denied accesses to shows exactly the culture of . Just because they reversed this policy (TBD if they actually do) doesn't mean that other similar policies will be changed. That the support person couldn't raise concerns, that the middle managers didn't care enough about the customers to realize how bad/stupid/damaging it is.

encthenet,
@encthenet@flyovercountry.social avatar

@feld Yeah. I remember spending more than a day years ago, trying to create a policy for a user account to have access to a specific file in S3, and even w/ help from people who knew AWS, I could not for the life of me create a policy that would work. Part of the problem was that despite me having delegated access to the resource, there isn't anyway for me to see what permission failures happened to debug the issue (you can if you have root, etc).

encthenet,
@encthenet@flyovercountry.social avatar

@feld I'm only using AWS for a website that costs me 15¢/month.

steve, to AWS
@steve@mastohack.com avatar

I haven’t tested this myself, but it seems this may be a very nasty way to inflict targeted or random harm against anyone with buckets.

https://medium.com/@maciej.pocwierz/how-an-empty-s3-bucket-can-make-your-aws-bill-explode-934a383cb8b1

publicvoit, to Amazon German
@publicvoit@graz.social avatar

hat den den Vorfall von https://medium.com/@maciej.pocwierz/how-an-empty-s3-bucket-can-make-your-aws-bill-explode-934a383cb8b1 in eigenen Worten gefeatured: https://blog.fefe.de/?ts=98ce33e2

Wahnsinn. Die ist ja wirklich ein tolles Ding ... um Amazon Geld zu besorgen. 🤣

Wirklich unglaublich, was man da liest. Da werden viele Firmen teures Lehrgeld zahlen, bis sie wegen Kostenexplosion vielleicht doch wieder in eigenes Wissen und Know-How investieren, sofern noch möglich ...

phphil, to AWS
@phphil@phpc.social avatar

Absolutely wild. You pay AWS for unauthorized requests (4XXs) to S3.

I can make a request to your bucket, and you will be charged.

via https://medium.com/@maciej.pocwierz/how-an-empty-s3-bucket-can-make-your-aws-bill-explode-934a383cb8b1

michael, to AWS
@michael@thms.uk avatar

What on earth?! Amazon S3 charges you for unauthorised requests to S3?!

That's just absolutely insane! I better check my AWS account and delete any unused buckets I have in there …

https://medium.com/@maciej.pocwierz/how-an-empty-s3-bucket-can-make-your-aws-bill-explode-934a383cb8b1

harmonicarichard,
@harmonicarichard@techhub.social avatar

@michael When experimenting with AWS, Azure, and more I always pull down anything after I have completed a tutorial. I don't trust cloud service providers not to charge for something that should not be charged for.

wall_e,
@wall_e@ioc.exchange avatar

@michael also, and I can not stress this enough: don't use real domain names in examples or tests ffs 🫨

tixie, to devops
@tixie@guerilla.studio avatar

I need a Github Action template "upload-to-S3-provider-who-is-not-AWS-for-dumb-bimbo" because damn that overcomplicated devops ecosystem is gatekeeping simple babes like me 😭💅

(look at this rocket-science shit called AWS documentation… what the hell)

tixie,
@tixie@guerilla.studio avatar

@annika i’m not even trying to use AWS but apparently you have to go through their platform specific doc if you want to get info on how to upload stuff on a bucket a S3 bucket 😖 (And Github doc to do it in their runner isn’t much help + most of S3 upload action template in their marketplace assume you wanna upload it to AWS)

annika,
@annika@xoxo.zone avatar

@tixie Yeah, it's a shame that they're such a heavyweight. Even when you're not using their systems, you're subject to their confusing product lines (from compatible solutions and other copycats)

nurkiewicz, to AWS
@nurkiewicz@fosstodon.org avatar

Turns out you can order a server or even a whole rack from , plug it in your on-prem data center and use it as if it was your private region. Deploy , , etc. all through AWS console! https://aws.amazon.com/outposts/

tallship, to foss
@tallship@social.sdf.org avatar

Here we go folks!

This just in, hot of the press, on the tail end of the NLnet grant and the release of Garage version 1.0 - w00t. 🤘💀🤘

https://git.deuxfleurs.fr/Deuxfleurs/garage/releases/tag/v1.0.0

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mwop, to AWS
@mwop@phpc.social avatar

Blogged about a recent issue I encountered when trying to set up a sync folder in S3-compatible storage.

https://mwop.net/blog/2024-04-06-aws-s3-sync-folder.html

sergio_101, to fediverse
@sergio_101@mastodon.social avatar

Thinking out loud here.

I'll be setting up #Funkwhale on the machine I am running my #Mastodon instance.

It would be really cool if I could host my files on #S3 somewhere, rather than on the machine itself.

Will have to read up on it.

slamp, to selfhosted
@slamp@hachyderm.io avatar

Should I use or as backend storage for ?

I'm open to any other proposal

koen,
@koen@procolix.social avatar

@slamp I give a +1 to .

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