governa, to random
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aral, to hosting
@aral@mastodon.ar.al avatar

Right, I’m back to focussing on Domain* now that another round of dev is complete on Kitten** and, two years after I originally asked the question: does anyone know of a comparable service to Hetzner Cloud (API, affordable, very quick server setup, VPS) that supports CoreOS?

I still can’t find any. And my attempts to get Hetzner to support it have failed (mostly due to lack of interest on Fedora’s side) 🤷‍♂️

https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1324

aral,
@aral@mastodon.ar.al avatar

Looks like Vultr has it but it’s too expensive. We’d have to charge at least €25/mo instead of ~€10/mo for a Small Web site with Hetzner to make the same ~€5/mo to try and make Small Technology Foundation sustainable.

And I really want Small Web sites to be affordable so folks can experiment and play with them.

chikorita157, (edited ) to random
@chikorita157@sakurajima.moe avatar

At least Vultr admits that this content ownership thing was a mistake and they took it out. I’m surprised they kept such a boilerplate text before it got caught.

That is probably why it’s good idea to read the ToS and even EULAs. You don’t know what clauses that is lurking there. At least their response is reasonable, unlike Hetzner with how they handled the SFW yuri image debacle.

https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/28/vultr_content_controversy/

joeyh, to random
@joeyh@hachyderm.io avatar
joeyh, to random
@joeyh@hachyderm.io avatar

a few other thoughts on the debacle

  • They are in damage control mode, everything they say is PR, don't trust anything they say.

  • Even if they revert the TOS change immediately, it was in effect for years apparently, so they could easily have already harvested data and continue selling it. The grant the TOS claims is "perpetual".

  • VCs travel in packs and every other hosting company will now consider this maneuver fair game unless Vultr loses more money than it makes off of this.

mwl, to random
@mwl@io.mwl.io avatar

https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3932710/#Comment_3932710

is now claiming the contract language is a goof. Nah, dude. They got caught.

chikorita157, to random
@chikorita157@sakurajima.moe avatar

If you want a non-reddit post on the Vultr being vultures claiming perpetual rights to users’ content hosted on their cloud hosting service

https://lowendbox.com/blog/shots-fired-is-vultr-claiming-full-perpetual-commercial-rights-over-all-hosted-content/

Apparently it’s not a new thing, which makes me believe that people do not read the ToS before signing up to a new service, just like EULAs. Maybe because it’s too long to read, thus users just accept and click next.

controlc, to privacy
@controlc@mastodon.social avatar
major, to random
@major@social.lol avatar

Man, I've been a big fan of for ages, since the ooooold days, but this is depressing. 😞

https://io.mwl.io/@mwl/112169675771839569

elijah, to AWS
@elijah@kolektiva.social avatar

To recap, is transphobic, now claims to own all your content, and and power in Gaza.

Unless your plan is to live on berries and roasted snake, we desperately need an ethical cloud alternative.

https://woem.men/notes/9ragjwecxwul3nis
https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1bouuv7/warning_vultr_a_major_cloud_provider_is_now/

mwl, to sysadmin
@mwl@io.mwl.io avatar

New blog post: just betrayed us.

https://mwl.io/archives/23498

I've recommended them for years. Will be moving off immediately.

No, not a joke.

mwl, to random
@mwl@io.mwl.io avatar

Hey everyone! just enshittified!

They re claiming ownership of all intellectual property you host on their VMs.

https://grimgreenfo.rest/notes/9rdle0uyo4d30029

Clear violation of copyright law.

So, where are people moving to? What options are out there? that suck less?

jordan_kendrick, to random
@jordan_kendrick@fosstodon.org avatar

Later

chikorita157, to random
@chikorita157@sakurajima.social avatar

A cloud hosting provider decides to enshittify themselves by claiming “full perpetual commercial rights over all hosted content.”

Irony is, their name is Vultr, basically they are vultures out to take your content… perhaps for AI. ​:meowfearful:​

RE: https://grimgreenfo.rest/notes/9rdle0uyo4d30029

jordan_kendrick, to Roku
@jordan_kendrick@fosstodon.org avatar

The VPS is pulling a by forcing people into agreeing to their new TOS that will give them full perpetual commercial rights over all your hosted content.

There is no way to decline and you can't access your control panel unless you click agree.

I suspect they're planning to sell your data to AI model creators.

This is the second phase of the enshitification process. I recommend jumping ship now.

martijn, to random
@martijn@ieji.de avatar

Giving object storage a shot to offload static assets from the sites I build

zoness, to tech
@zoness@mastodo.neoliber.al avatar

Not sure why I didn’t do it years ago but I finally ditched Wordpress and built my blog with Hugo, a static site generator: https://zoness.me

For a small space that is essentially a rant zone, it’s absolutely perfect and has significantly reduced the complexity of deploying to new servers.

Also I moved off of Azure back to my previous host, Vultr. Turns out I just need a low powered VM for most things.

jimmyb, to mastodon
@jimmyb@selfhosted.cafe avatar

I have moved each of my three #Mastodon instances over to #Backblaze B2 object storage and am syncing to #Vultr and #DigitalOcean as well.

techsinger, to random

Again about , does anyone know how to disable the on logging in with email? I know everyone loves it, but I always find it on the very border of what I can actually use due to impaired hearing. The lack of context in the words is sometimes seriously annoying.

techsinger, to random

I think this is probably known to everyone interested but, just in case... For users of , I strongly suspect that the Windows standard 2022 image comes with audio enabled. I logged in with remote desktop and had audio, and could then get my portable running nicely and remotely. This is new to me, I used to have to enable audio manually if I wanted it and didn't want to upload an image.

jeff, to random
@jeff@honeytree.social avatar

is killing me!

Our team is trying to transfer the object store for Newsie and it turns out they are 100% 502 if I try to access the NJ Object Storage platform from inside a Vultr instance.

So our team thought something funny was happening, and checked the IP for vultrobjects.com and it's a different IPv6 from inside their network.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Well we can at least access the object storage from outside... just slower.

jibsaramnim, to SEOUL

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  • FoW,
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    @jibsaramnim
    Many Fediverse servers in South Korea have been using . In recent weeks, there have been frequent failures and database losses. Many servers have undergone emergency maintenance and one server has been shut down.

    jimmyb, to random
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    The invoice from just came in for May. $15 compared to $75 from . 🤣 I think I'll be sticking with Vultr…Especially since I'm on a really tight budget now.

    Shadow, to random

    Does anyone on hosting have the correct environment variables for S3 object storage?

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