As far as I'm concerned, the licensed company to do this, Kuoni through the #Drupal Association do not release the financial information of the event to the community.
You are definitely talking from a privileged position than most people in Southern Europe/Western Europe definitely don't have.
It's easy to check where DrupalCon attendees are coming from/origin of the companies they work with. Stats are there. It's not a lack of interest on the less represented countries, be sure of that.
@jurgenhaas@rachel_norfolk@pcambra
> But don't you think that if a board decided on something, that we should stay behind that decision, even if we disagree with it?
The new @drupalassoc certified partners is just delusional, and incredibly US centered, so now if you don't pay a fee you're not listed in the #Drupal marketplace no matter how much you contribute?
In our case (10 people agency + contractors), a $5000 fee is just not worth it, we were happily paying the community supporter tier but we won't do a 5x increase, it's just not reasonable for our budget.
"The Drupal Marketplace on Drupal.org will be reserved solely for Makers, known as Drupal Certified Partners. The Marketplace will be branded as the global list of “Makers” and recommended by the Drupal Association and will only list Drupal Certified Partners in active status."
So if you don't pay a fee to the DA but you have projects maintained, core commits, organise events, mentor, you're suddenly not a maker?
Part of being a good leader is stepping down gracefully. I have been trying to step down from the SF #drupal community for 2 years.
I learned that BADCamp's hackathon will be hosted & sponsored by Pantheon.
I was not graceful. I left immediately, not caring about a replacement.
Pantheon's Acceptable Use Policy does not align with my values as long as Pantheon continues to provide services to Alliance Defending Freedom & other recognized hate groups.
What's a good use case for creating a custom entity in #Drupal?
It seems to me that in terms of creating regular content, there are exceedingly few cases where you wouldn't be better served just by creating a new node bundle and then making your own custom field types, widgets, and formatters to extend the good ol' Node entity.
I thought that a custom entity might be warranted for performance reasons if you need to squeeze every bit of speed you can, but I read a couple of blog posts from someone who said he found the difference to be minimal.
In his estimation if you need squeeze as much speed as you can and have a highly structured data schema that's not likely to need changes, you should just create custom DB tables and write direct queries to retrieve the data.
Do I need an entity type with separate bundles that doesn’t get mixed up with unrelated node bundles?
Do I need an entity type that doesn’t need something node does out of the box? Maybe I don’t need this entity to ever be viewed, so I don’t need the default routing set up for it.
Do I need a lot of custom code for this entity that I can put into methods so everything’s neat and maintainable and doesn’t need to check which node bundle it is?
@mrdalesmith@sysop408 I'd add:
4. Do you need base fields, i.e. fields defined in code? (Bundle fields still have only partial support in core.)
5. Do you want custom indexes on the DB table?
So if you have small to medium projects, the recommendation is move to Wordpress (or Wix!), and if you have a large project, here are a list of certified? companies.
I really worry as a Drupal small agency owner that the marketing that the DA/working groups is putting out is really damaging.
It's more complicated than that. There are a huge number of Drupal 7 sites that are not all that ambitious (very simple sites) and do not need nor can they afford modern Drupal, whether that be with a small or large agencies.
The Drupal community has come to acknowledge this and recognize that if we don't want to support them forever and don't want to leave them using unsupported software, we should at least suggest some alternatives.
@chrisod@pcambra However, I think I kinda agree that from a marketing perspective, the page doesn't address this well.
It treats "driving down cost" like its a negative when every business owner, especially in the tight economies we've been going through, is going to be a primary driver.
It should be more clear about the innovation cost of moving away, and where the new Drupal platforms can also drive down costs.
Anyone else enjoying their disillusionment that upgrading major #Drupal versions became easy as of Drupal 8?
The pain involved in the Drupal 8 to 9 upgrade was expected to just part of the learning curve of adopting a new system. It's supposed to get easier... isn't it?
My Drupal 9 to 10 upgrade for one of my larger sites is so painful that I'm now going to seriously consider going to Backdrop for some of my remaining Drupal 7 sites instead of upgrading them to Drupal 10.
BTW, I'm not dumping on the Drupal 8+ system as a whole. I actually love it and will keep building on it. It's just that the smaller sites I've done would not have the budget for me to engage in this exercise every 2 years nor would I have the time to pray to the migration gods for so many sites like this.
@sysop408@JamesOMalley I guess direct is a better word than explicit. Start with composer require --no-update drupal/core, that should default to ^10.1, if you still get multiple versions, change it to 10.1.4 for example.
@sysop408 The lenient plugin only acts on dependencies which were explicitly specified using an allow list via composer.json extra data. That only helps when its clear which dependency is causing the mess. This doesn't seem to have been the case in your situation.
@DaleTrexel
Yes, got it. And we all can help to improve that. It's great that you've identified the problem. Next, it needs to be reported and then fixed. That's what we all do thousands of times every day.
@DaleTrexel isn't this changing when issue queues are moved to GitLab? It's easy to reference issue in GiLab by including links, GitLab's process to truly relate issue requires saving the issue and adding the relation to UI elements that only exist after the initial save. Both of these are easy once you understand them, but neither are intuitive for new users.
We have a client site where some crawler bot has been repeatedly coming to the #drupal site for years and trying to access hundreds and hundreds of bad urls. All of the requests from one of their previous episodes caused #pantheon to bump the account up to the next tier, costing the organization hundreds of dollars more a month. Any ideas on how to keep an out of control crawler off of a pantheon site?
@mikemccaffrey yes, but not all configurations/VCL options can be done as self-service... and similar to my motivation for writing https://www.drupal.org/project/pantheon_autopilot_toolbar, you can't actually navigate to https://agcdn.ps-pantheon.com/ through the Pantheon's UI. The Edge Cache icon in the left hand navigation of the Pantheon Dashboard links to a page promoting the AGCDN and telling you to contact your sales person... even if you are paying for it.
I think there’s a big opportunity for a hosting company to provide low-cost #drupal hosting that revolves around the upcoming Automatic Updates and Project Browser initiatives. I’m thinking no Git (gasp! I know) with automated backups included. What better way to bring new folks into the community than by providing the easiest of on-ramps to a production site.
Sandeep Sasikumar provides an overview of various Drupal hosting options.
@dreamleaf
Unless the hoster provides a composer repository too, then all custom components (module, theme, etc.) can be composer required.
I'm not saying, this should avoid git for any cost, but a composer based application in combination with project browser and autoupdates can go a long way for people not even knowing anything about infrastructure. Something that wasn't possible so far, is now within reach. @ultimike@mandclu
I hear this point, but I hope we can all realize that not every "essential" tool for a regular Drupal developer is or should be a pre-requisite to get started.
I would never quit using git or command line tools like Drush. But, I would not be here today had I been forced into using them on day one.
I needed time to fall in love with Drupal before I was ready to see the value in and appreciate these tools.
Rahul Dewan is the founder of #Srijan and sits on the Board of Directors of the @drupalassoc. Today on LinkedIn we spouted off against question about gender and sexuality on a survey created by #Drupal Association staff.
We can talk about whether we are surprised that an outspoken anti-LGBTQIA+ person is on the board. But the real question is will he remain on the board after this?
@pcambra@dasrecht I think we can look at it as a double edged sword. If someone answers "1M USD in compensation and unlimited access to company jet" it builds a certain image of the candidate. However "ability to work remotely" or "time and opportunity to contribute code to Drupal.org" tells a different picture.
That being said, unless the word "crazy" was used in the feedback to the candidate, I don't think one should answer this question.
Someone at the DoJ left E_DEPRECATED messages on in production, so now, their website is a great public service announcement against using #Drupal and #PHP. 🤦♂️
@ramsey@josh their whole USGOV distro is a fantastic primer on how to structure sites. really well done; though i have to say, what they have documented at Drupal isn't complete; but that's to be expected. i hope though they didn't get hit by the wave of people leaving USGOV during the Trump administration. it's my understanding, there's still thousands of critical vacancies. that's institutional knowledge that's never coming back.
> That said, can we agree that it's still WAY better than wordpress?
Yes!
I don't question or argue with folks that LOVE modern Drupal. I think it's great especially for those full time developers working with Drupal all the time.
But, I will continue to advocate for the folks, many of whom are not full time developers, that find modern Drupal overly complex for their use cases.
As a #Drupal developer I am interested in using @ddev as a development tool, but adding ddev infront of every drush command is something I just cannot get used to.
Any experiences here? And any advise about why me and my team should make the switch?
@absoludo@ddev adding DDEV in front of your commands is a small "pain point" for a ridiculously massive win. We use DDEV with TYPO3 and I wouldn't ever use anything else.
New release of Action Link module lets you put the links directly into field formatters, and the field value updates with AJAX as well as the link. https://www.drupal.org/project/action_link#Drupal
@jpoesen I'm not sure what to add to make it clearer - it says it can be customised with a plugin. There are examples in the module's tests and in the POC submodule.
I've been tasked to upgrade another inherited #drupal 9 site to 10, apply a some major updates to the existing theme, and stage it on #pantheon
As-is, none of the contrib modules had been defined in its #composer#json config, and it has quite a few complex added features and content types that may no longer be required. Let's see how this goes! 😎
for starters, it's #drupal 9.3, so I'll need to get it to 9.5 before upgrading to 10. That requires #composer v1, so I'll need to 'composer selfupdate --1' and then switch back to 2 after the update, IF that's successful
this process wound up working to get two other sites from #drupal 9.3 to 9.5 to 10.2.1.
I had to fix some issues with #Twig 'spaceless' being deprecated in the custom themes, and the profile_switcher #drush module saved me from remnants of Lightning 2.x beta something, though some time ago a lot of effort was put into disabling and removing all lightning workflow related features. 🦤 I think I like drupal again!
@ultimike Why not? Because DA membership benefits are geared towards agencies. The recent TDT research showed how popular Drupal is in higher ed. We have our own Slack that peaked at 2700+ members (< 10% active now). I have a half finished email to @hestenet about this.
There are a few people who have managed to get their university to join, but I'd really like to see joining be the default for the large, higher ed orgs that are VERY invested in Drupal.
@ultimike@hestenet It would be great to see the DA extend SSO support to drupal.community w/ https://docs.joinmastodon.org/admin/optional/sso/. It would make it easier to shift from providing content being used to train AI in the various walled gardens our community currently (unknowingly?) supports. I managed to show that 5% of donors could come from Mastodon in a recent fundraising campaign for CU. Those were mainly early adopters & FOSS advocates, but we're nearing the tipping point on Mastodon adoption.
@pcambra@jpoesen Just ran through that issue again, I kind of forgot about it and now I'm angry again after revisiting it. I don't understand how it's appropriate for contrib modules to now decide it's OK to insert spam into the databases of our sites.
