SocialMediaRefugee,

When you are the victim of a loot ninja

intensely_human,

Speaking of which, do you know where your toilet is?

atimehoodie,

Yes.

Arthur_Leywin, (edited )

Well put.

lol3droflxp,
lol3droflxp avatar

To protect against violence

charonn0,
@charonn0@startrek.website avatar

Violence, by definition, is an unjustified use of force. If a use of force is justified then it isn’t violence.

For example, suppose you’re walking across a bridge and you see someone about to jump to their death. So you run over, pull them back from the brink, knock them down, and sit on them. Have you committed an act of violence? I would say not.

On the other hand, suppose the person is just standing on a street corner waiting for the light to change. If you run over, pull them back from the curb, knock them down, and sit on them, that would in fact be an act of violence.

Tarte,
Tarte avatar

Violence, by definition, is an unjustified use of force. If a use of force is justified then it isn’t violence.

You're right, but just to be clear: That is an English differentiation that doesn't exist in many other languages.

charonn0,
@charonn0@startrek.website avatar

That’s just a rhetorical device. I’m not suggesting that word definitions are prescriptive.

Spaghetti_Hitchens,

Weird. The question was asked in English.

Omega_Haxors,

Violence, by definition, is an unjustified use of force.

Downvoted for being factually incorrect. Nowhere in the (non-doctrinal) definition of violence does it include “unjustified”

charonn0,
@charonn0@startrek.website avatar

I’m the one defining violence here.

Omega_Haxors,

As someone who uses the original definition of fascism (before liberals changed it to exclude themselves) people generally don’t like that.

charonn0,
@charonn0@startrek.website avatar

The OP is a prompt as to the nature of violence.

CapeWearingAeroplane,

A legal arrest can be violent. A soldier killing another is definitely going to be violent. Both can be legitimate uses of force.

shinigamiookamiryuu,

Violence is a form of escalation. One should never cause a conflict to come to a new height and should only resort to something if in response to anything of that same height.

Also, if a ruler of a nation resorts to that, it shows they’re not a great/effective ruler. Fluency in how to rule is determined by how much peace you can accomplish with as little change as possible. Less is more, as they say. If you have to punish people too often like some are doing, you’re violating that “less is more” rule.

wagesj45,
wagesj45 avatar

It's always a matter of degrees. The bigger the injustice, the more violence is justified to rectify it. It is in the disproportionality, in my view, where the problem arises.

Never forget that humans are just barely evolved apes. Sometimes a swift knock to the head is required to activate those neural pathways to discourage anti-social behavior. Not always, but also not never. Claiming otherwise is just self-aggrandizing moralization that people use to make themselves sound and feel superior.

Asudox,
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

Self defense

Mubelotix,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

Self defense but also including defending your rights, freedom, property, and sovereignty

hemko,

Only when all other options are ruled out. And obviously, you should not be the aggressor in any situation

HubertManne,
HubertManne avatar

this is where the mythological concept of sin sorta helps. So its a bad thing but basically you decide at what point doing the bad thing is worse than other bad things but you can't ever make it not a bad thing. You just accept its price at some point and its ultimately and individual decision and I don't think many will know until that moment. For myself I try to avoid it as much as I can but I don't know in what situation I will be driven to it.

Narrrz,

it's very hard to say, except in hindsight. and that's typically after everyone involved is long dead and we only see the long term benefits that came of it.

Damaskox,
Damaskox avatar

Striking someone that could cause lots of violence to others otherwise...
Of course violence would be the last resort in this case as well, in my opinion, but it would be the lesser evil.

Some people use violence to fuel their morbid curiosity.
Can it help an individual who delves into such topic through discussions and material?

RizzRustbolt, (edited )

When folks are mean to service staff.

CADmonkey,

If I’m out by myself and I see someone hassling an employee, I get some enjoyment out of being a Large, Unpleasant Man™ and hassling them right back. It’s funny how little they care about their little problem when some random weirdo who doesn’t work there gets involved.

AMillionNames,

Usually never.

Macaroni_ninja,
@Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world avatar

Self defense comes to mind, but probably there are other examples.

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