bobjonkman,
@bobjonkman@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

I've been reading the threads of pundits punditing about the future of the #Fediverse, saying that it will only succeed if it gets taken over by Google, or Twitter becomes an instance, or the app gets a no-choices-required signup, or the current users stop being protective of "their" network.

But as long as they keep talking about "the Mastodon protocol" and "the Mastodon network" and fail to see the bigger #Fediverse then they don't know what they're talking about and I'm gonna ignore 'em.

dekkzz76,
@dekkzz76@emacs.ch avatar

@bobjonkman
@screwtape

If any journalist doesn't refer to the then it's clear they are clueless.

As for google they ran g+ into the ground what makes anyone think they know how to run anything social media related

the way things are going all of @Gargron s servers will be de-federated due to the ongoing spam

screwtape,
@screwtape@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@dekkzz76 @bobjonkman @strypey @lispi314 my innermost plaintive mewling is that there is a thread of insight in the awful obliviousness of the suggestion that Alphabet, or Twitter, or someone needs to Own the fediverse for it to be competitive with other web products. Companies who are members of the world wide web consortium, which defined activitypub, being the set of web requests of a context json that make mastodon, peertube, etc etc. Why wouldn't web megacorporates dominate web products?

dekkzz76, (edited )
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@screwtape @bobjonkman @strypey @lispi314

none of the techbros had anything to to do with activitypub from looking at the w3c link below.

https://octodon.social@cwebber

https://cosocial.ca@evan - Identi.ca dev

are 2 of the AP devs listed

https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/

dekkzz76,
@dekkzz76@emacs.ch avatar

@screwtape @bobjonkman @strypey @lispi314

i don't know how common it is for a w3c team to slip under the techbro radar but it looks like it did

maybe they didn't see it as important

strypey,
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@dekkzz76
> maybe [the DataFarms] didn't see [ActivityPub] as important

That seems to be the consensus.

@screwtape @bobjonkman @lispi314

strypey,
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz avatar

@dekkzz76
> the way things are going all of Gargron's servers will be de-federated due to the ongoing spam

Very kind of him to funnel all the nuisance account-creators into his servers :P

I think it's possible for the admin of Server X to silence Server Y, preventing its accounts from appearing in the notifications of accounts on Server X, but still allowing users to follow each other and see their posts on an opt-in basis. If so, that might be the solution.

@bobjonkman @screwtape @Gargron

strypey,
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@bobjonkman
> or the app gets a no-choices-required signup

Well that's happened now with the official Mastodon app, which will dump new users into the under-moderated sewer of edgelords and spammers that is masto.social. I expect growth to slow down considerably thanks to this, and turn to more of a mycelial 'from the edges' mode of growth, which may well be a good thing.

bobjonkman,
@bobjonkman@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

>>or the app gets a no-choices-required signup

>Well that's happened now with the official Mastodon app

And that's another thing the pundits seem not to know.

@strypey

@screwtape

screwtape,
@screwtape@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@bobjonkman @strypey
@lispi314 whom is a developer whom I believe gnusocial->mastodoned (though off sdf), what's your word on the current tides of the fediverse?

strypey,
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz avatar

@screwtape
> whom I believe gnusocial->mastodoned

... as did I, and if I remember rightly, so did...

@bobjonkman

Other GNU social alumni include @clacke, and @lnxw48a1.

@lispi314

screwtape,
@screwtape@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@strypey @bobjonkman @clacke @lispi314 listen, most of my life is underground and massive, tusked surface animals and their clades are a mystery to me that I am still learning about

bobjonkman,
@bobjonkman@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@strypey

Still on #GNUsocial at @bobjonkman

#OStatus only, but I'll be upgrading to an #ActivityPub enabled version #AnyDayNow 😁

@screwtape @clacke @lispi314

strypey,
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@bobjonkman
> OStatus only, but I'll be upgrading to an ActivityPub enabled version

I wondered what happened to the GNUniverse. I assumed all the surviving Gs instances had upgraded to an AP version by now, or migrated to a different AP software. But it did seem like a whole bunch of cool people have been quiet since John Mastodon turned off OStatus.

@screwtape @clacke @lispi314

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