Gina,
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🇫🇷 Frenchies of the #fediverse, quick question!! 🇫🇷

What is up with the region of Languedoc-Roussillon and why do I see entire wine estates for the price of a parking spot in Amsterdam for sale?!

https://www.french-property.com/sale-property/360-3516#&gid=1&pid=2

#france #merci

tuban_muzuru,
@tuban_muzuru@ohai.social avatar

@Gina

Heh! It's nice, imagining. I've dealt with restoration of old buildings - plan on paying three times for the property.

First, the ongoing upkeep - if you have to do a roof, move your number up to pay-four-times.

Second, the cost of labor. In France, this is a soap opera of its own.

There are teams now scouring Italy and France for this sort of joint, ten bedrooms, old estate, not too far from town.

Gina,
@Gina@fosstodon.org avatar
vieveca,
@vieveca@toot.aquilenet.fr avatar

@Gina Very poor transport network, far from everything, very difficult and expensive to repair. Grape vine is hard with bad income.
And let's think about that no one in the area can afford such a price : you take their homes and their jobs.

Gina,
@Gina@fosstodon.org avatar

@vieveca Isn't every one taking everyone's job nowadays?

It's kinda bizarre how we're advocating for a world with closed borders and without free travel - as if people are supposed to only live, work and die in the area they were born while there's a whole world out there. It's ridiculous.

Not saying I know the solution to the worldwide housing crisis, but surely restricting moving abroad can't be the answer.

masterbuck,
@masterbuck@fosstodon.org avatar

@Gina @vieveca It’s not about moving abroad, it’s about moving where the standard of living is lower, because it’s "cheap for you" even if it’s twice what the locals can afford. Then it becomes the normal price of things, and the locals get priced out of home ownership. I say that as someone who moved somewhere where housing seems way cheaper than what I’m used to in the South.

Gina,
@Gina@fosstodon.org avatar

@masterbuck @vieveca I mean, that's what's happening to me in Amsterdam as well. I don't blame the expats looking for opportunities here 🤷🏼‍♀️

vieveca,
@vieveca@toot.aquilenet.fr avatar

@Gina So you know. Now you have to decide if you're in or not.
@masterbuck

Gina,
@Gina@fosstodon.org avatar

@vieveca @masterbuck in or out of what exactly? I don't understand your premise.

Ju_,
@Ju_@mamot.fr avatar

@Gina
Maybe because of water issue
This région is impacted with very poor underground water level
There is restriction for use of water (not allowed to water down garden nor fill up swiming pools etc...)

Gina,
@Gina@fosstodon.org avatar

@Ju_ Your English is perfect 👌

fedops,
@fedops@fosstodon.org avatar

@Gina probably listed buildings that require 10 mil Eur for immediate renovation. Also, a new motorway will be built right next to them next year.

There's nothing cheap in southern France. I've looked. 😀

Gina,
@Gina@fosstodon.org avatar

@fedops The renovations I could live with. The highway..💔💔

kris,

@Gina

660 000 you have a house and a land. What is wrong with that. This is situatated in rural area where houses and land are cheap

Gina,
@Gina@fosstodon.org avatar

@kris yeah but why is it so cheap??? It's not even that rural, it's like 45 min to Perpignan and an hour to Montpellier. Also right next to Narbonne. 30 min from the sea and next to a National Park. I'm just like ????

Tarnport,
@Tarnport@mastodon.green avatar

@Gina we call it and the gers the labrea tarpits of American tourists. Friends don't let American friends drive alone into the countryside with a checkbook...

Gina,
@Gina@fosstodon.org avatar

@Tarnport I promise I'll improve my French and give my french neighbors my best wines, veggies and eggs.❤️

Tarnport,
@Tarnport@mastodon.green avatar

@Gina well. I'll drive over and wipe your tears each weekend. For wine, of course

Gina,
@Gina@fosstodon.org avatar

@Tarnport Would you happen to know what the weather is like there during winter?

Tarnport,
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@Gina the degrees can be deceiving. You always have to check also the wind! But ya winters are sunnier than Amsterdam.

Tarnport,
@Tarnport@mastodon.green avatar

@Gina it's not coastal Spain tho. I mean it can be gray and even dust snow. And the wind is no joke. It's legendary. It has proper names! I'm just north of Toulouse here and if you look at a growing zone map of France you'll see the peculiar frost dates distribution caused by huge mountains running between two oceans

Gina,
@Gina@fosstodon.org avatar

@Tarnport 🥲🥲🥲

Gina,
@Gina@fosstodon.org avatar

This one's mine btw, yall get your own wine estate

graves501,
@graves501@fosstodon.org avatar

@Gina Wine and cheese at your place WHEN? We're all invited right lol

Gina,
@Gina@fosstodon.org avatar

@graves501 heck yeah just wait until I have a veggie garden and chickens!

AugierLe42e,
@AugierLe42e@diaspodon.fr avatar

@Gina As long as you don't go full biodynamie BS, I'm ok with tasting your wine. You know… For advice 👀

Vive_Levant,

@AugierLe42e @Gina « 24ha wasteland, formerly vineyards » exit the winery dreams (and don’t expect to plant ha of vines and be profitable with the local excessive production of bad wine combined with climate change that makes the land inhospitable to vines)

matt,
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@Gina takes you the next ten years to renovate

Gina, (edited )
@Gina@fosstodon.org avatar

@matt You say it like I wouldn't immensely enjoy that 😁

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